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Thu, Jun 30, 2011 1:23 PM
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Photoshop: Ability to update/edit brush presets
This is a no-brainer that should make its way ASAP into 13.
Provide users with a way of tweaking their brush settings and then SAVING OVER an existing brush preset, rather than having to create a new one.
The brush preset system that has been in place since 5 is a broken user experience. You always create a "throwaway" brush (tip) when you Define Brush Preset, and then you customize its settings and create a New Brush. Then, if you don't like those settings and want to improve them, you are stuck having to create yet another brush preset, and eventually deleting the others.
Come on guys, we need something just a little more polished. It's been over ten years now. Fix some basic stuff before launching into crazy new directions like 3D.
For the most intuitive user experience, the workflow should be revised.
Creating brushes should be a two-step process:
1. create a "brush tip" - these are the sampled pixels only, with no Brush configuration data attached
2. create a "brush" - by selecting a brush tip and then setting your options.
If you then want to edit an existing preset and save over it, why not present us with familiar options like Save and Save As? Put a little "save" icon and a "clone" icon in the Brushes palette. Let us know when we're editing an existing brush preset, and put the title of the brush preset in the palette. Basic basic stuff.
Provide users with a way of tweaking their brush settings and then SAVING OVER an existing brush preset, rather than having to create a new one.
The brush preset system that has been in place since 5 is a broken user experience. You always create a "throwaway" brush (tip) when you Define Brush Preset, and then you customize its settings and create a New Brush. Then, if you don't like those settings and want to improve them, you are stuck having to create yet another brush preset, and eventually deleting the others.
Come on guys, we need something just a little more polished. It's been over ten years now. Fix some basic stuff before launching into crazy new directions like 3D.
For the most intuitive user experience, the workflow should be revised.
Creating brushes should be a two-step process:
1. create a "brush tip" - these are the sampled pixels only, with no Brush configuration data attached
2. create a "brush" - by selecting a brush tip and then setting your options.
If you then want to edit an existing preset and save over it, why not present us with familiar options like Save and Save As? Put a little "save" icon and a "clone" icon in the Brushes palette. Let us know when we're editing an existing brush preset, and put the title of the brush preset in the palette. Basic basic stuff.
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ahren_paulson
8 Messages
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274 Points
9 years ago
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pierre_courtejoie
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19.5K Points
9 years ago
I'd like also to see some revision about presets.
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kimyoonmi
35 Messages
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712 Points
9 years ago
This would be sweet to have with the organization schema so we can do this with the brushes palette rather than a preset organizer in a separate window. ('cause if you get the brush wrong, you have to open the window again.)
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kingofzombies
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120 Points
8 years ago
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mladen_penev
231 Messages
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5K Points
8 years ago
i just searched for it and found out that it doesn't exist?
please adobe! this should be a simple one.
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atharil
26 Messages
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384 Points
7 years ago
the presets windows are prehistoric, we can't do anything, can't tidy up anything.
That's something sooooooooooooooooo simple that I can't imagine it is not on a software like Photoshop...I mean.. many years of existence... massively used by professionals.... but it is, yes. Along with many other tiny things MORE important than "not well implemented" 3D and shiny stuff.
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atharil
26 Messages
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384 Points
7 years ago
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dong_pn
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394 Points
7 years ago
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tom_auger
64 Messages
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2K Points
7 years ago
It's such a minor thing, with so many possible solutions.
Don't you wish Photoshop were open source? Heck, I'd write the darned patch myself. They keep working on "big picture" marquee features, instead of making our daily work tool more ergonomic and efficient.
I don't know why I keep giving Adobe my monthly CC subscription. They just don't seem to listen to their users.
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kimyoonmi
35 Messages
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712 Points
7 years ago
For example, when Photoshop made it so you didn't have to double click a layer, which opened a dialogue box and then click enter to rename it, that feature got a ton of cheers, because it was a routine thing. The fact that Photoshop plans on not making this application more user friendly in this manner where you don't have to go through an extra dialogue box to do similar functions saddens me.
To me, it's the same kind of effect that you guys got when you redid the layers naming process to be just a simple click. Sometimes the UX things get more cheers than the brand new shinies. Sometimes fixing an old bug or giving simple organization, or reducing the amount of clicks i.e. UX gets more cheers than coming up with a new doodad.
Brushes are part of the user's every day function--it's a basic component of Photoshop--it came out with version 1. So why not pay attention to the UX? And why not pay attention to your major competitors who are ahead in that fashion and have done it anyway?
Sometimes improving basic functions makes life easier. Brushes is one of them.
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grant_smith_i0kgq11ujp88a
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92 Points
4 years ago
Sometimes I have to change a preset. It would be nice to be able to just overwrite an existing preset. Right now it just says "Preset already exists" with no option to overwrite. And if I create a new preset, i can't change the order, and I need order in my list! : ) Thanks.
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asdasd_asdasd_33srefu35bvjl
4 Messages
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126 Points
4 years ago
1 - Make the change to my brush and create a whole new brush preset
2 - Check the name of the original brush and type it in for the new preset
3 - Delete the old version of the brush so my hotkeyed brush selection action selects the new one properly based on the same name and there being no duplicates, so that way i dont need to re record an action for it
4 - Open brush manager to move the new brush from the end of the brush list (where new ones are put) to where it belongs in my organized list where i use blank presets called "---------------" as separators because i need too many brushes
5 - Play around abit with the new hotkeyed brush and realize it needs more tweaking, do the tweaks, and when its just right i accidently switch tool to momentarily erase or something before making a new preset out of that perfect new brush setting, so the ideal changes are lost because brushes dont remember modifications (there is no option for them to do so, like lock/unlock a brush maybe), changing tool and reselecting brush always resets the changes
6 - repeat
compared to manga studio:
1 - got a nice hotkeyed brush that i want to make changes to
2 - press "unlock tool" (so the changes to the tool automaticaly save)
3 - make changes to brush, draw abit, erase abit, looks good, hit "lock tool", done
(or duplicate the original to iterate nondestrutively, then unlock the duplicate, make changes to it, this new brush will have the same hotkey as the original, and you can just change it to a new hotkey if want. per brush, no need to make actions to select brushes via hotkeys and re-record those actions if you rename a brush or have duplicate name. each brush gets a new hotkey line in the options for its name.
There is alot more simple workflow speed problems with PS than that compared to manga studio etc, and some simple functions that i find hard to believe that something big as PS cant do yet (for example multi layer freetransform/warp of selected partial area without multistep workarounds), but alot of them can be worked around with clever autohotkey and such, but the brush problem is way too complex to automate, for me anyway
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tom_auger
64 Messages
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2K Points
3 years ago
Better brush organization
Organize and save your brushes in the order you want. Drag and drop to reorder, create folders and sub-folders, scale the brush stroke preview, toggle new view modes, and save brush presets with opacity, flow, blend mode, and color.
Could it be?
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charles_cronley
32 Messages
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522 Points
3 years ago
Why can't the user edit brushes already existing in a set? I have a set I've been using for years and wish I could change the brush settings individually without having to recreate the entire set. Am I missing something here? As I understand it, once you've made and pasted a new brush in a set, you can't tweak a settting without creating a new brush, deleting the old one and moving the new one in its place. I'd be glad to be proven wrong and show me how.
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rob_gibson_8028172
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82 Points
3 years ago
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