TW

1 Message

 • 

70 Points

Sat, May 15, 2021 8:53 PM

Photoshop 22.4: Save as formats have disappeared

Whoever came up with this "enhancement" is an idiot. So instead of working on a .psd file and then saving it as a .jpeg at teh end to post on the web and keeping the name the same just with a different extension I now have to save it as a copy and it changed the file name to add in the word copy. this is cumbersome and provides no value. It makes the process harder and slower.  Not exactly what I am looking for in an "enhancement"

Responses

Official Solution

Employee

 • 

3 Messages

 • 

180 Points

17 d ago

Hi All,

 

We appreciate your feedback on the recent “Save a Copy” change. To address your concerns, we have created two new options in Photoshop 22.4.2 that will enable both revert to the legacy “Save As” workflow and/or omit the addended “copy” when saving as a copy. These options can be found in the File Saving Options section under Preferences > File Handling.

 

To quickly summarize, you will now have the option to revert to the legacy “Save As” workflow (from before recent changes) on both macOS and Windows. Enabling this preference will make both the “Save As” and “Save a Copy” commands operate within the same “Save As” dialog box with all its previous options, including the “as a copy” checkbox. The only difference between the two commands will be whether the checkbox is automatically selected (when using “Save a Copy”). Additionally, you will now have the option to not append copy when saving a copy. On macOS, if you enable the legacy workflow, the option to not append copy will be forced ‘on’ due to the changes made in macOS 10.15 and later. On Windows, the two preferences will operate independently.

 

We hope these preference options will help ease some of the frustration you encountered using the new “Save a Copy” command.

 

Please note, reverting to the legacy “Save As” workflow may increase the risk of overwriting file names and lost work. A new dialog will pop-up warning customers of this risk when selecting either one of these preferences on macOS. On Windows, the legacy “Save As” operates in a manner that is safe, so a warning dialog will only pop-up when selecting the option to not append copy to the file name.

 

For more details on each preference and how they differ by platform, please see our updated new feature summary page.

8 Messages

 • 

176 Points

THANK YOU!!!!!!!  Sincerely, thank you!

30 Messages

 • 

442 Points

Finally my email can get a rest from the updates.... hopefully I can see the fix to my other issue along with this update too...

249 Messages

 • 

5.3K Points

thank you Adobe for listening!

11 Messages

 • 

246 Points

Thank you too for listening! Very very happy to see this. Thank you thank you

5 Messages

 • 

106 Points

Thank you for actually listening!

But just dump the new Save A Copy command you made and make the 'legacy' Save As the default. Seems like you can't get over the fact you made a massive mistake.

(edited)

1 Message

 • 

60 Points

@NoelleShamroukh 

Well, I really appreciate this, but why Adobe doesn't ask  users (Forum f.e.) BEFORE changing this? Every one who is working with Photoshop as a Pro would have told you so, that this behavior is horrible for every efficient workflow. Adobe wasted a lot of time in programming, so may be asking a question about any possible workflow changes could save much time. The very appreciated changes since Photoshop CS 6 made things much better, so contradiction of the community was predictable.

Oh yeah, now we are able to save time again ... ;) Nevertheless thanks for changing!

@warren_heaton
What a silly answer ... Adobe changes the "Save as ..." behavior 20 versions ago. Indeed, but why did they do that? Because of a better workflow, right? So make things worse again because Apple has a great idea without asking users doesn't make any sense in my opinion. The result speaks for itself. The behavior is now again as it supposed to be. And this is NO feature request of any user. And NO bug report. It's a step backwards because of new Apple policies. So I think, it's special and Adobe would have to deal with it different - to avoid shit storms, to avoid huge additional programming. I don't want to be asked before implementing any new function (although it would be nice too). But reverting a huge time safer functionality is different. And btw NOBODY has requested this as a "feature request".

Your answer is a bit off topic, ins't it?

(edited)

451 Messages

 • 

8K Points

@imedia_marketing 

Other than this forum, how would you like to provide feedback to the Adobe team about features that you'd like to see in Photoshop?

How would you prefer to be asked before an application behavior is reverted to how it worked prior versions (in this case, about 20 versions ago)?

Seems this forum functioned exactly as it should in this case, minus vulgarities, of course. 

26 Messages

 • 

392 Points

”Seems this forum functioned exactly as it should in this case, minus vulgarities, of course”

Also except people like you who tell us how wrong we are and try to suggest lame workarounds. (There's a user forum for this).

We won this game – you lose. Deal with it.

54 Messages

 • 

616 Points

@NoelleShamroukh Awesome!!!

7 Messages

 • 

180 Points

@NoelleShamroukh Thank you. I know we can get grumpy over the "smallest" of things, but we really do appreciate your prompt resolution to this issue. Thank you for listening!

4 Messages

 • 

114 Points

@NoelleShamroukh

Thank you for the update. We appreciate actually feeling listened to, particularly in changes this significant to the normal workflow.

SYAWEDIS

59 Messages

 • 

774 Points

@NoelleShamroukh  I think you guys did real good with this update, thank you very much. 

33 Messages

 • 

452 Points

@Henrik Johansson 

You can gloat all you want, but it was done to prevent overwriting data, which still seems a much more important consideration to me. I wonder how many will ignore this:

I'm waiting for the "Photoshop deleted my files"-threads.

54 Messages

 • 

616 Points

My PSD files have always had their own folder separate from
my production .jpgs.

Thank you again!!!

26 Messages

 • 

392 Points

@dag_fosse

Please describe the exact steps how to overwrite a psd-file with a jpg-file. Or in which case this ”loss of data” occurs.

I have tried to do that on purpose, out of curiosity. I still have not being able to do that.

Ignoring a warning dialogue, does not count.

Personally I think losing a client, because in the hurry of a late edit, you missed that a link didn't get updated in InD, due to the added ”copy”, is far worse.


451 Messages

 • 

8K Points

@dag

Surely those who are here for this one issue will frequent the forums more often to share their expertise in a kind and courteous manner.

Actually, I'm impressed with how quickly the Photoshop team was able to address this.  I'm sure they have they've had their hands full bringing the very impressive performance improvements to the M1 based Macs: Adobe: Creative Cloud app performance surges more than 80% on M1 MacBook Pro vs. Intel-based systems

(edited)

11 Messages

 • 

246 Points

Yes, I just updated in cloud but the change has not happened yet..........

33 Messages

 • 

452 Points

@Henrik Johansson 

Well, to be honest I never had any particular interest in this issue. My procedures have always treated jpegs as exactly what they are anyway: copies. This made no difference to me.

Anyway, you got what you wanted, so perhaps we can let the unpleasantness rest for a while.

(edited)

451 Messages

 • 

8K Points

@surfingman 

If you're up-to-date, the setting can be found under the File Handling preferences.

 

9 Messages

 • 

144 Points

@NoelleShamroukh Excellent...and appreciated.

1 Message

 • 

60 Points

@dag_fosse

Eh...  except that every time you try to save a .jpg with a file name that already exists, Photoshop asks if you're sure you want to overwrite it. I've been using Photoshop pretty much since it has existed and ...it really isn't an issue. 

A bigger issue is introducing a new process that destroys existing actions that users have set up, and if you process hundreds of jpgs a day, losing that ability or having to remove the word "copy" is a huge impediment. 

39 Messages

 • 

488 Points

@dag-fosse

You can gloat all you want, but it was done to prevent overwriting data, which still seems a much more important consideration to me. I wonder how many will ignore this:

I'm waiting for the "Photoshop deleted my files"-threads.

Omg for serious? First of all I think it's beyond obvious that every single person complaining here has a workflow and is a professional so this is a non-issue. To those who are not pros and make this mistake: you screw it up once and you learn! Amazing, right? Who knows maybe they will even gain a skill or 2 and not need training wheels! This is like modern cars that have obnoxious alarms on the sides to tell you when there is another car near you. If you need that you probably shouldn't be driving. 

SYAWEDIS

59 Messages

 • 

774 Points

Man, how disappointed must @Adobe be to see that they rolled out the new update but some people are still fighting or trying to derail this conversation with their negativity or superiority complex. 

451 Messages

 • 

8K Points

@eppers 

ON1 uses Export (not Save As) for the document to be exported as a JPEG (as well as TIFF and PNG)?

Why switch to ON1 to Export JPEGs when exporting JPEGs is available in Photoshop?

4 Messages

 • 

94 Points

@NoelleShamroukh 

I is appreciated....THANK YOU

2 Messages

 • 

96 Points

@NoelleShamroukh Thankyou 

6 Messages

 • 

164 Points

@NoelleShamroukh now THIS is a Solution! Thank you for listening & responding so quickly. I hope the team will perhaps conduct more user testing & survey in the future when considering such major changes, so the changes don't become wild pain points for both the Adobe team & us users.

2 Messages

 • 

122 Points

1 m ago

I noticed that in 22.4 Version, you can't save a file as .jpg, .gif, .pdf or any other extension, by using Save As option.
It only shows you the options to save it as .psd, .psb and .tiff.

This is slowing down the workflow a bit, because saving the files from 'Export As' is loading a bit longer then 'Save As' option. 

Anyone got the same problem with that?

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled 'Save As' not useful anymore. Instead, we need to use 'Export As' option. Slowing down the workflow.

Champion

 • 

3.6K Messages

 • 

60.6K Points

The ‘Save as’ dialog now only supports file types that retain all your edits, so you do not see JPEG as option if your file is layered or is more than 8 bits/color. If your file has no layers and is 8 bits/color then you will see JPEG as option too. There is a new menu ‘Save a copy’ that can be used to save a layered file as a JPEG (copy).

2 Messages

 • 

72 Points

Miodrag: I am frustrated by the same issue. You used to be able to save a jpeg that would just flatten your layers when you saved it. I am very annoyed by the recent updates.

451 Messages

 • 

8K Points

@Miodrag Stojiljkovic

Use File > Save a Copy. 

451 Messages

 • 

8K Points

@Leanna Read 

Use File > Save a Copy.

13 Messages

 • 

246 Points

@warren_heaton 

File > Export would be great if only it could handle EVERY file extension. You only habe PNG/JPG/GIF/SVG. It's like a revamped "Export for the web" legacy tool. But it's slow, the shortcut is hilariously complicated and WTF: no TIF export ? So no, for me this is NOT a replacement. And "Save As Copy" screws up the naming consistency. For me this update is really a no go. Without actions, workflow is doomed.

141 Messages

 • 

2.6K Points

1 m ago

sometimes i ask myself "are the coder at adobe actively searching ways to annoy the user"?

with the latest update to 22.4.0 they changed something how SAVE works.


it behaves different now. i can´t save layered files as JPG... i have to flaten them first.

before update 22.4.0 the files where flattend automatically.
now i only get file formats that supports layers in the save dialog, when the image is not flattened.

 

also something with saving TIFF is broken.

i can´t choose "discard layer save as copy"... i have to flaten the files first so that this option is not greyed out anymore.

this was also not the case before update 22.4.0.

 

i have dozend and dozends of actions that use the "save as" dialog and i can´t chose JPG anymore.

because this new annoying version of photoshop only offers me JPG when the file is flattened.

a file with layers and your greeted with this:

good work..... i think a consortium of 10 software engineers worked a week on this fantastic "improvement".
ps:
as to the  smart person who will ask why i want to save a file with layers as JPG... because that is what i want.
i work with layers and then i save one file with layers for achiving and one as JPG.
Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled why was how SAVE works changed in photoshop 22.4.0????

2 Messages

 • 

60 Points

Agreed.  I just downloaded the new version (22.4) and had to contact the Adobe Help to figure out I now have to choose 'Save a copy' and add a step into saving a file that is anything but a PSD, PSB or TIFF and delete the word copy at the end of the file name.  Makes no sense!  The Help Person couldn't really give me a good reason why they changed it, 'Save as a Copy' is right under 'Save As' if I wanted to Save as a copy!

Champion

 • 

3.6K Messages

 • 

60.6K Points

AFAIK, the reason for these changes in Photoshop for Windows is compatibility. There was a problem with Photoshop for MacOS, because Apple removed an API that Adobe used in the ‘Save as’ dialog. The only way Adobe could solve the problem that was caused by this, was by splitting up the ‘Save as’ dialog into a dialog that only contains file formats that fully support the work you have done (layers, 16 bits color) and a ‘Save a copy’ dialog that allows you to save a layered or 16 bits file as a jpeg copy. This is to protect the user from losing work due to carelessness. To keep both versions the same, they implemented the same changes in Photoshop for Windows.

35 Messages

 • 

798 Points

UNBELIEVABLE!

this really s#cks BIG time.

(Thanks Apple...)

37 Messages

 • 

724 Points

THIS IS INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am genuinely furious at this. Thanks Adobe for adding an extra step to something I need to do EVERY SINGLE IMAGE. 

You could have just added a pop-up with options for the mac users but no, you had to make everything worse for everyone. Well done. 

35 Messages

 • 

798 Points

Even if I uninstall 22.4 and re-install 22.2, I can't seem to get the good old "Save As" back.

AAAAAAHGGGHHH

:-(

EDIT: Oh, you have to go back to 21.2.8 for this.

7 Messages

 • 

110 Points

i was just on with support and the only way to go back is downgrade to 22.3. 

this is so unbelievably stupid. what a shock to workflows. how on earth giving people extra steps to save a file is an update/upgrade is beyond me. "you know that simple thing literally everybody does? well we took that simple thing and made it NOT simple! YOU'RE WELCOME!"

silly, silly people.

2 Messages

 • 

64 Points

Honestly, this was the only solution? I've been "saving as" out of a PSD to a JPEG for 25 years. "Save As a Copy" interrupts decades of workflow and muscle memory. We all pay too much for this software to amend functionality like this.

4 Messages

 • 

184 Points

I also find this seriously frustrating to the point that I changed my keybindings to make the "Save a Copy" dialog come up in place of "Save As". Now I just have to deal with Photoshop appending the word "copy" to my filename every time I do this. Please add the option to use the legacy version for those of us that can still use it.

8 Messages

 • 

144 Points

This update sucks! There wasn't a better option on how to fix the issue? I don't know who I'm more upset with (Apple or Adobe). There was a time with they worked together to make better products for the end user. Now no one seems to care about making things better other than their personal bank accounts. This update is unacceptable!

141 Messages

 • 

2.6K Points

@Nolan Waak since subscription adobe does not have to care about the customers.

face it they can basically do whatever they want, companys and pros will pay because there is no real alternative.

i can´t remember having so much technicall issues when PS was released once a year.
today nearly every update breaks something.

and you can´t even talk to someone.
the support is either non-existent or unable to answer the simplest question.

have you tried to get a competent support person on the phone?
good luck!!!

8 Messages

 • 

164 Points

@Johan_Elzenga I'm genuinely trying to understand this, but I'm scratching my head. I understand that Apple removed the Save As API that Adobe had been using. But I don't get how this was the "only solution". Here's another solution: Use whatever API they're currently using for "Save a Copy", call it "Save As", take the word "copy" out of the filename, and call it a day. The OS already has a "This file exists, do you want to overwrite it?" protocol that will protect people from accidentally overwriting a file. We don't need "copy" amended to any file ever. Right? Or am I missing something here?

28 Messages

 • 

310 Points

This is almost exactly what I wrote in another post. Completely agree. 

8 Messages

 • 

164 Points

I just read some of the other threads so I understand a little more of the historical context. But I think my previous comment and proposed solution still stands. The only drawback I see is that if the user is attempting to Save As a .psd, they would expect that new file to be the one that remains open in Photoshop, rather than saved as a copy in the background. But I could imagine some methods to handle that. Photoshop can decide which file to keep open, and which to save in the background depending on if the user selected .psd or something else. Just thinking it through

39 Messages

 • 

488 Points

@tanja_schulte

I can't believe it: they actually managed to make their original mistake WORSE. At least before you could save a jpeg once before having to do work arounds to avoid the copy situation. Now there is literally no way to make a simple jpeg from a layered file without flattening first, which is INSANE. Do the engineers use Photoshop themselves? Do they understand why and what people do with it?  

10 Messages

 • 

164 Points

Two things -

First - I previously though I had solved my problems with the update by using export.  HOWEVER.....Export does NOT save the metadata.......grrrrr

Second - Previously when I was working with a RAW file in Lightroom and launched an edit with Photoshop, it did 2 things - When I did a Save As, it saved the jpg file in the folder I designated, and maintained the RAW file I was still working on in Photoshop so that I could make further edits.  I often make several "versions" of an image to see which one I like best.  Second, when I was finished with the file and went back to LR, it "knew" which file I had launched from....No more.  This is slowing me down sooooo much.

I'm not happy about the appended "copy", but that is easy enough to fix.  Feel really bad for you pros that have hundreds of images to deal with and how much this is slowing down the process.

2 Messages

 • 

70 Points

1 m ago

I've just updated to 22.4 and no longer have the option to save my images as PDFs. 

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Can no longer save an PSD file as a PDF

8 Messages

 • 

96 Points

I have the exact same problem. The Save as Photoshop PDF option is no longer available. Looked everywhere on preferences, export options, etc. Nothing.

Champion

 • 

3.6K Messages

 • 

60.6K Points

This has been asked and answered many times already. Things have changed. You must use 'Save a copy' now. Read the 'What's new' when you update.

4 Messages

 • 

70 Points

Quick workaround is to save PSD, then merge layers and save as.

8 Messages

 • 

96 Points

I did. Only have three options after merging. No Photoshop PDF option available.

8 Messages

 • 

96 Points

Thank you. This works. But the question is why? Why make it more complicated? Who will think about saving a copy if I am "Saving as..."

Champion

 • 

3.6K Messages

 • 

60.6K Points

Here’s why (you can also read “PDF” or several other file formats where it says JPEG): Many years ago, the Photoshop ‘Save as’ dialog would only show options like TIFF and PSD if you added layers to your image, or used 16 bits/color. The reason was simple: because JPEG does not support layers, that could not be an option because that would require Photoshop to flatten the image. As a result, people could lose their layers thinking they saved the image before quitting Photoshop. Many people did not understand this, so the question why JPEG was suddenly not an option in the ‘Save as’ dialog (after they had added a layer, that is) was one of the most frequently asked Photoshop questions of that time.

Adobe solved this problem by adding some routines that would analyse the image when you used ‘Save as’, and add ‘copy’ to the name if you tried to save such a layered file as JPEG, while keeping the image in Photoshop as ‘unsaved’. That way users were protected against losing work because they chose a non-compatible file format, and could still quickly save a JPEG copy.

Unfortunately, in MacOS Catalina Apple removed the API that was used in these routines. The result was a strange bug when you tried to overwrite an existing JPEG file. Photoshop would ask you to overwrite the file, but then it would not do that even though you said ‘yes’. The only way that Adobe could restore the option to save a copy in a non-compatible file format, without introducing a serious risk of people losing work, was to split up the dialog in ‘Save as’ (with compatible formats only) and ‘Save a copy’.

And so now people are asking again why the ‘Save as’ dialog does not show JPEG as option with their layered file. It is quickly becoming the most frequently asked Photoshop question again…

8 Messages

 • 

96 Points

Thank you for that. I don't have the time to follow on all the Adobe discussions like that, so it's really great to read it like this. I've been there all the way. I noticed the exact same things. Still for me it was always obvious that a "jpeg" file format would never be a layered file, and that is why a user does "Save as" to select another format, and not simply do a "Save" to keep it in a PSD file with all the layers. The whole "Save a copy" for me remains counterintuitive and confusing. Other applications have simply opted to create an export console.

18 Messages

 • 

200 Points

18 months to come up with this mess. 

18 Messages

 • 

200 Points

Exactly. Photoshop has been a mess this last 12 months. As a daily user for over 30 years it is a shame to see. 

Champion

 • 

3.6K Messages

 • 

60.6K Points

@jmartins Photoshop has had an 'Export as' console for years... There is also a 'Quick Export as' menu that you set once, and then can use without getting a settings dialog anymore.

18 Messages

 • 

200 Points

The export console is hideously slow for larger images. Quick export is not bad but you have to choose a single format and options in prefs with no way to vary those on the fly. I frequently have to save PNGs and Jpegs for clients, as do many people. 

62 Messages

 • 

810 Points

@angushume

Exactly!!

26 Messages

 • 

392 Points

Adding ”copy” to the filename also adds the risk that a link don't get updated. An easy miss in a last minute change before going to print. Customer gets pissed and finds another designer.

That is far far worse than some noob neglecting the warning about an unsaved image.

2 Messages

 • 

90 Points

Yes. Photoshop is a pro app after all; Adobe should spend its time removing functions from iOS apps instead 

2 Messages

 • 

70 Points

1 m ago

Please add all the file types to future updates of Photoshop such as .pdf and many others that were available up to the 22.31 versions. That is my suggestion as it was extremely helpful to be able to save in many file formats/types.

Version 22.4 hopefully is not the way things will be moving forward. Thanks.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Update 22.4 and future updates

4 Messages

 • 

130 Points

1 m ago

Following the update to 22.4.0, "save as" has lost all options except for psd, pdd, psdt, psb, tiff.  I can still export as jpg, but that seems to strip exif data.  Frustrating.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled "save as" jpg option gone

5 Messages

 • 

98 Points

Same here. It's fine on my windows pc with same photoshop version. But on mac it's bugged.

Champion

 • 

1.9K Messages

 • 

27.6K Points

Click »Save a copy«. 

Champion

 • 

1.9K Messages

 • 

27.6K Points

Or use Edit > Save a Copy (cmd-alt-S) right away. 

It seems the change was instituted to protect users from the potential consequences of carelessness. 

Champion

 • 

1.9K Messages

 • 

27.6K Points

Not bugged. 

If the image cannot be saved as a jpg (because it contains Layers for example) then a copy needs to be saved or exported. 

5 Messages

 • 

98 Points

Thanks for the explanation. I didn't notice any update features on startup showcasing the changes, maybe I missed it. I checked again and you are right about the layers, when adding layers to my windows document it behaved the same way there too. 

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/whats-new/2021-4.html

Champion

 • 

1.9K Messages

 • 

27.6K Points

Just installed the update myself and I guess this may take some getting used to. 

But I think in particular saving pdfs occasionally caused confusion and data loss for some Photoshop users in the past, so hopefully this change will prove useful. 

4 Messages

 • 

130 Points

@christoph_pfaffenbichler   Thanks, I should have thought of that...

Champion

 • 

3.6K Messages

 • 

60.6K Points

Many years ago, the ‘Save as’ dialog would only show options like TIFF and PSD when you added layers to your image, or used 16 bits/color. The reason was simple: because JPEG does not support layers or more than 8 bits/color, that could not be an option because that would require Photoshop to flatten the image and/or decrease the bit depth. As a result, people could lose their layers thinking they saved the image before quitting Photoshop. Many people did not understand this, so the question why JPEG was suddenly not an option in the ‘Save as’ dialog (after they had added a layer, that is) was one of the most frequently asked Photoshop questions of that time.

Adobe solved this problem by adding some routines that would analyse the image when you used ‘Save as’, and add ‘copy’ to the name if you tried to save such a layered file as JPEG, keeping the image in Photoshop as ‘unsaved’. That way users were protected against losing work because they chose a non-compatible file format, and could still quickly save a JPEG copy.

Unfortunately, in MacOS Catalina Apple removed the API that was used in these routines. The result was a strange bug when you tried to overwrite an existing JPEG file. Photoshop would ask you to overwrite the file, but then it would not do that even though you said ‘yes’. The only way that Adobe could restore the option to save a copy in a non-compatible file format, without introducing a serious risk of people losing work, was to split up the dialog in ‘Save as’ (with compatible formats only) and ‘Save a copy’. And so now people are asking again why the ‘Save as’ dialog does not show JPEG as option with their layered file…

10 Messages

 • 

116 Points

Yes, that's the whole problem !!!! Let's wait for the bug to be resolved. I reverted to the previous version.

5 Messages

 • 

102 Points

Ironically, this latest update (22.4.0) was initiated to resolve an issue created by the previous update (22.3.1) which caused the graphic processor to be greyed out in the performance settings for many of us.

Fix one problem, create another...

Champion

 • 

1.9K Messages

 • 

27.6K Points

No problem, no bug, seems rather like a deliberate choice to prevent people from inadvertently destroying data. 

Using Edit > Save a Copy instead of Edit > Save As should not be a problem when one knows that the file format does not support the active image. 

Champion

 • 

3.6K Messages

 • 

60.6K Points

If you reverted to the previous version until this ‘bug’ gets ‘fixed’, then that is the last version you will ever use.

2 Messages

 • 

70 Points

25 years saving files out of photoshop - and never once have I, or a colleague, or anyone I know - from 25 years on forums, working in the industry - have I ever heard a single person lose data by saving as a different format. 

The Save a Copy is a good idea in theory - but it really should be file>export - and keep it simple. Save a copy actually adds Copy to end of the filename - not needed. 

8 Messages

 • 

194 Points

"Save a copy actually adds Copy to end of the filename - not needed. "

It's really bothering. I have to manually remove all and every "copy" word at he end of file names.

9 Messages

 • 

144 Points

1 m ago

I was previously able to save a TIFF image in JPEG format using the "save as" command. Ever since upgrading to 22.4.0 I am unable to do so with the message being that the file size is too big to save in JPEG format. I can work around it by exporting the file as a JPEG and this works fine too but it requires unnecessary extra steps. This situation was fine before the upgrade to 22.4.0. Also, I tried to save the same TIFF image to JPEG format using PhotoShop CS6 and it worked just fine so it's clearly something in the lastest release that's preventing it. Any ideas?

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Problem saving TIFF images as JPEGS in PhotoShop 22,4.0

Champion

 • 

3.6K Messages

 • 

60.6K Points

Many years ago, the ‘Save as’ dialog would only show options like TIFF and PSD when you added layers to your image, or used 16 bits/color. The reason was simple: because JPEG does not support layers or more than 8 bits/color, that could not be an option because that would require Photoshop to flatten the image and/or decrease the bit depth. As a result, people could lose their layers thinking they saved the image before quitting Photoshop. Many people did not understand this, so the question why JPEG was suddenly not an option in the ‘Save as’ dialog (after they had added a layer, that is) was one of the most frequently asked Photoshop questions of that time.

Adobe solved this problem by adding some routines that would analyse the image when you used ‘Save as’, and add ‘copy’ to the name if you tried to save such a layered file as JPEG, keeping the image in Photoshop as ‘unsaved’. That way users were protected against losing work because they chose a non-compatible file format, and could still quickly save a JPEG copy.

Unfortunately, in MacOS Catalina Apple removed the API that was used in these routines. The result was a strange bug when you tried to overwrite an existing JPEG file. Photoshop would ask you to overwrite the file, but then it would not do that even though you said ‘yes’. The only way that Adobe could restore the option to save a copy in a non-compatible file format, without introducing a serious risk of people losing work, was to split up the dialog in ‘Save as’ (with compatible formats only) and ‘Save a copy’. And so now people are asking again why the ‘Save as’ dialog does not show JPEG as option with their layered file…

8 Messages

 • 

194 Points

I have no problem with a "save as a copy" option, but I do have a huge one with the word "copy" added at the end of the file name.

10 Messages

 • 

116 Points

1 m ago

Hi !

Under Windows 10, with the French version of Photoshop 22.4.0, I can no longer save a project in JPG format (Ctrl + Shift + S) !!!

The only formats available are: PSD, PSB and TIFF! Strange!

However, it worked this morning (Saturday 05/15/2021).

Most definitely a bug!

Are you having this problem?

How to go back to the previous version? 

Cordially

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled No format JPG with Photoshop 22.4.0

10 Messages

 • 

116 Points

Ok I have found a way to revert to a previous version but I maintain that there is a bug. Thank you

3 Messages

 • 

72 Points

Yes, very weird behaviour that i have noticed as well. In the meantime you can use save copy ctrl+alt+s

10 Messages

 • 

116 Points

Ah! Excellent! Thank you very much my friend !

Champion

 • 

3.6K Messages

 • 

60.6K Points

Please search the forum before you post a ‘bug’ report. This is as designed and explained in several threads already.

For example here.

8 Messages

 • 

194 Points

it's not a bug, just a nightmare

Champion

 • 

3.6K Messages

 • 

60.6K Points

1 m ago

Use ‘Save a copy’. And read the numerous other posts on the same subject where it’s explained why Adobe changed this.

(edited)

9 Messages

 • 

144 Points

Honestly, why stick the Windows users with this annoyance when the developers can make the change for the Mac OS? It's not the end of the world but it makes for extra unnecessary steps. Adobe, you can do better than this.

37 Messages

 • 

724 Points

Sorry Johan but you're wrong. 

Photoshop wouldn't let you simply quit an unsaved file without asking if you want to save first. Never in my life has it been any different, so no, this ridiculous change doesn't help at all. 

The previous and intuitive Save As box (that didn't add a Fischer Price "my first Photoshop file" 'COPY' at the end of the file) had check boxes at the bottom that even filled in automatically for a Save As Copy function without that lame 'copy' being added at the end. It also didn't affect your current file, would save layers and Bit is saving to a new PSD/PSB and would automatically fatten the copy if saving as a JPEG. So none of your reasoning makes any sense of this change other than they are appeasing the fractional minority Mac/Windows crossover users.  

I need to sometimes save over 20 JPEG versions a day out from the same PSD/PSB file. It was done in the blink of an eye before and it made logical sense. 

Now we have to click through another menu to get to the same menu as before but it now also vandalises your file name with COPY at the end. It is a practical joke. It has to be.

451 Messages

 • 

8K Points

@jeff_read_k2db8bzbsbx64 

Hi, Jeff.  Is there a particular reason that you have not been using File > Export As or the older File > Save for Web all these years?  

7 Messages

 • 

124 Points

1 m ago

When using layers the latest version of Photoshop will not save as a jpeg until all layers merged or flattened. Very irritating.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Will not save as jpeg if layers

5 Messages

 • 

90 Points

It also will not save as PDF's either.  The file types available in save as are very limited with this version.  However an action, previously written and saved, will save as a PDF even though PDF is not available in the save as dialog.  PDF is not available even after flattening.

Champion

 • 

3.6K Messages

 • 

60.6K Points

This has been asked and answered many times already. Things have changed. You must use 'Save a copy' now. Read the 'What's new' when you update.

4 Messages

 • 

152 Points

and annoyed users also told you hundred times: we dont want the extra word or extra steps. Especially who uses shortcuts for decades as a routine. You always make our work harder and harder, is it funny?! i think, we, customers, deserves a bit better treatment. So all windows users screwed because of "Holy Apple"? Apple rules the world?! 

i revert now back to an older version, and i dont care your updates in future - they are always annoying and senseless 'features' anyway from version CS6.

Every upgrade causes new problems, i dont need this shit. 

(edited)

4 Messages

 • 

90 Points

1 m ago

The latest update broke my workflow of the past 5 years in newspaper production.

My action includes a step

SAVE

As: JPEG

Quality: 12

In: (this location has always been ignored and saves into the current image location)

With Copy

After this update, the "In" location has suddenly been activated BUT not in a predictable or useful way. Now, the final folder in that directory becomes the file name!

So imagine it was "C:\Home\Folder name\", my SAVE AS COPY file is renamed to "Folder name.jpg"

Now to see if I can downgrade to the before-broken version of Photoshop.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Update 22.4.0 broke SAVE AS COPY in Actions

Champion

 • 

3.6K Messages

 • 

60.6K Points

Try to change the ‘Save as’ step in your action to ‘Save a copy’.

4 Messages

 • 

90 Points

As per your suggestion, I re-recorded the SAVE AS step to SAVE A COPY, but it still records itself as a "SAVE AS" step. The output in recording SAVE AS and SAVE A COPY in v22.4.x is identical.

(I would use the EXPORT AS... feature, except that half the time, I need to save a file as PSD with layers and transparency for print, other times a flattened JPG - always in CYMK with specific print colour profiles)

I've reverted back to v22.3 until I can find the time to write a Script. Seems like that's the only way for now.

4 Messages

 • 

152 Points

it seems, software engineers over there never work hard.. I have to retouch at least 200 photos, but this "upgrade" just broke my workflow. I was very angry at adobe when they just removed the icon from top Arrangement and have put under the Window menu (plus 2 clicks!) AND there is no more possibility to arrange ALL in small windows, just only 4/6 allowed. Why?! many times i have 5 or 7-10 pictures, and i must see them at once together. 
Adobe treats users, paying customers like children, not adults. Insane. 

8 Messages

 • 

194 Points

1) We software development engineers are the reason and justification for everything the company does.
2) We software development engineers know what is best for customers, because they do not know it themselves.
3) We, software development engineers, decide what is possible and what is impossible. It is our decision, do not put reality in this.
4) Customers and users should appreciate our work, and not imagine that their tastes and interests are part of the Matrix.

11 Messages

 • 

246 Points

Sorry, you don't know what is best for customers! That is very bloody arrogant thinking! You don't have the right to decide or dictate what we can and cant do with what WE paid for!!! No we don't have to appreciate your work when you stuff up so many things! Have a look at ALL the complaints about this "save as" shit you have created!

6 Messages

 • 

124 Points

1 m ago

After having contact with the support.  I hear that the Save as option changed in the new update.

if you want to have the save as options as before, you need to save a copy now.
This is really crazy to always go through this.
Isn't it easier to keep it like it was.  Because I don't think I'm the only one that finds this inconvenient.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Bring back all the options in Save as

4 Messages

 • 

150 Points

1 m ago

Since not being able to save a layered PSD into a JPG by simply hitting 'Save As', the recent update of Photoshop version 22.4 requires you to 'Save As A Copy'.

This then adds the word 'copy' onto your file name. Prior to saving, one must delete the word 'copy' to maintain tidy & efficient mass production work flow.

Please can the word 'copy' be removed when saving JPGs, or have a preference to disable the suffix 'copy'.

For someone who works in huge volumes of PSD files in a day, having every file with the word 'copy' added to the end of each JPG severely disrupts the operator's efficiency. You can not be supplying JPGs to colleagues and associates with the word 'copy' added to the end of each file.

Please can you either revert this new feature of having to 'Save As A Copy' just to make a JPG from a layered PSD immediately or develop a preference to not add the suffix 'copy'.

Please.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled New 'Save As Copy' feature to make JPGs not efficient workflow

Champion

 • 

3.6K Messages

 • 

60.6K Points

Have you considered using the 'Export as' menu, or the 'Quick Export as' menu?

4 Messages

 • 

150 Points

I hadn't - it does take a little longer but this could work. I'd also have to change the keyboard shortcut as Alt+Shift+Ctrl+W isn't too snappy!!

Thanks for the suggestion. I'd still like Adobe to revert back to simply hitting 'save as' to get a JPG though.

Champion

 • 

3.6K Messages

 • 

60.6K Points

Reverting won’t be possible. The changes had to be made for the following reason:

Many years ago, the Photoshop ‘Save as’ dialog would only show options like TIFF and PSD if you added layers to your image, or used 16 bits/color. The reason was simple: because JPEG does not support layers or more than 8 bits/color, that could not be an option because that would require Photoshop to flatten the image and/or decrease the bit depth. As a result, people could lose their layers thinking they saved the image before quitting Photoshop. Many people did not understand this, so the question why JPEG was suddenly not an option in the ‘Save as’ dialog (after they had added a layer, that is) was one of the most frequently asked Photoshop questions of that time.

Adobe solved this problem by adding some routines that would analyse the image when you used ‘Save as’, and add ‘copy’ to the name if you tried to save such a layered file as JPEG, while keeping the image in Photoshop as ‘unsaved’. That way users were protected against losing work because they chose a non-compatible file format, and could still quickly save a JPEG copy.

Unfortunately, in MacOS Catalina Apple removed the API that was used in these routines. The result was a strange bug when you tried to overwrite an existing JPEG file. Photoshop would ask you to overwrite the file, but then it would not do that even though you said ‘yes’. The only way that Adobe could restore the option to save a copy in a non-compatible file format, without introducing a serious risk of people losing work, was to split up the dialog in ‘Save as’ (with compatible formats only) and ‘Save a copy’. To keep both versions in sync, this change was also implemented in Photoshop for Windows, not just in Photoshop for MacOS.

And so now people are asking again why the ‘Save as’ dialog does not show JPEG as option with their layered file. It is quickly becoming the most frequently asked Photoshop question again…

8 Messages

 • 

164 Points

@Johan_Elzenga I do feel bad for how many times you've had to explain this! Just a thought for anyone who has any sway at Adobe/Photoshop -- maybe next time give us a little explanatory popup after an update that includes a major change to workflow that will quite predictably tick people off. This fallout feels avoidable.

26 Messages

 • 

392 Points

”Export as” is slow. We need fast.

8 Messages

 • 

194 Points

"Have you considered using the 'Export as' menu, or the 'Quick Export as' menu?"
Have you considered thaty users prefer to save a jpeg file direct and without the word "copy" at the end of file name ?

451 Messages

 • 

8K Points

@pikkabbu 

If you set the Quick Export to preferences to JPEG, it's the fastest way to driectly save a JPEG.  "Copy" is not appended to the filename and the export can overwrite a file of the same filename.

26 Messages

 • 

392 Points

Quick Export lacks an option to embed profile.

451 Messages

 • 

8K Points

@Henrik Johansson 

If the profile needs to be embedded, then we have to use “Export As”.

26 Messages

 • 

392 Points

Which is slow and lacks options.

'Export as' / 'Save for web' is a mess. I would love to see 'Export as' become a serious tool and a real replacement for 'Sava a copy'.

451 Messages

 • 

8K Points

@Henrik Johansson 

It does seem that if Export As had an option for "use document dpi" or an option for "layered PDF" (to name a few) that some feathers would be less ruffled.

And maybe fellow Photoshop users could go back to being courteous to each other in the Adobe feedback forums.

26 Messages

 • 

392 Points

”Export” could become a super tool for every case (web, print, movie, whatever).

Export to multiple formats/sizes in one go. Dynamic naming of files. And ”Quick Export” could use the last settings in ”Export”.

Then ”Save a copy” can be scrapped.

451 Messages

 • 

8K Points

@Henrik Johansson 

Hi, Henrick, I meant to circle back to your response about Export becoming a super-tool for every case.  I agree.

Have you tried custom Export presets in Adobe Bridge?  With those set up, we're just a drag and drop away from turning our layered PS/PSB file into whatever variations we might need - dpi, color profiles, and metadata included.

26 Messages

 • 

392 Points

Nope. Bridge has not been suited for my workflows.

I merely open Bridge to set global Color Prefs.

Adobe Administrator

 • 

59 Messages

 • 

1.9K Points

1 m ago

Hi All,

This is not a bug in Photoshop, it’s a new workflow for saving files through Photoshop. The "Save As" option now only provides formats that preserve your work which is supporting full Photoshop layers and features. Formats not preserving Photoshop layers have been moved to Save a Copy.

For convenience, the Save a Copy button was added to Save As, as shown below.

 

You may also check more information about this new workflow here: https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/whats-new/2021-4.html

Thanks,

Mohit

9 Messages

 • 

144 Points

@MohitGoyal Respectfully Mohit, this change was ill thought out. Please don't fix something that isn't broken. A simple return to previous "save as" would be appreciated by virtually ALL of the Windows-based PhotoShop community.

(edited)

28 Messages

 • 

310 Points

Why force the appended " copy" to the file name? It's obviously a different document if it's a different file format. This *almost* might be an acceptable update without that. 

8 Messages

 • 

164 Points

Yup! To be honest, it's allllmost no big deal at all. I just changed the keyboard shortcut for "Save a Copy" to Shift-Command-S and as far as I'm concerned nothing has changed at all. Except that stupid "copy" at the end.

28 Messages

 • 

310 Points

@MohitGoyal  Honestly, it would've been more intuitive to have Save As constrain the options to anything that DOES flatten your image & lose all it's data - jpg, gif, png, etc. This wouldn't interrupt anyone's workflows. And the layered document would still remain open, unsaved, while the flattened version now exists. When you close your document you're then prompted to save your layered document (under whatever processes "Save a copy" uses. Save A Copy then could be *actually saving a copy of the document* you're working in. Like a duplicate. Another PSD.  

28 Messages

 • 

310 Points

@MohitGoyal Also, EVERY FILE FORMAT OPTION is also available in "Save as a copy"?!?!?!?!?!?! Why not just make that the default save as option, and get rid of the appended " copy" in the file name and.... call it a day? That would be *not changing anything*. Why is any of this even a thing?!?!

249 Messages

 • 

5.3K Points

Seriously, how can you tick this off as a Accepted Solution? It was perfect before, now it is horrible. It even wants me to save a COPY when I just want to save the PSD I recently opened - is it suppose to be like this?!?!? 

I'm seriously devastated over this, it just ruins a fluid workflow completely. 

29 Messages

 • 

416 Points

@MohitGoyal

Terrible update. Adding additional steps to what used to be a simple Save-As.

Do Adobe employees not have any comprehension of how a real-life fast-paced workflow operates? In all my years using Photoshop I never once had any problem with the simple process of saving a PSD as a JPG. PSD layers were always preserved in the PSD after saving a JPG copy, so why the need for this "update"?

 

1 Message

 • 

62 Points

@MohitGoyal 

Working with multiple files, and updating the PDF file is a nightmare with this update. Maybe create a new shortcut that you can streamline those versions. But don't change the old way and make it worse. I will be using the old version until this is fixed. If I were to keep this updated version this would have added so much unnecessary time to my larger projects. This update gets  0 stars. 

59 Messages

 • 

1.3K Points

@MohitGoyal 

I understand why it was done, but the drawbacks to this approach is the save location for Save a Copy is different, so if I want to save a non-layered copy of the file in the same place as the source PSD, I have to keep navigating to the folder it was in before.

5 Messages

 • 

118 Points

exactly! I sure hope they hear us!

1 Message

 • 

78 Points

@MohitGoyal
I literally cannot even believe this was an intentional update. I thought for sure it was a bug.

The fact that this was changed and makes the process LONGER and requires additional steps is frankly unacceptable. You're going to force tens of thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands of users, to roll back to a previous version just to avoid this change. Like, I literally cannot even believe it.

I already don't update Premiere anymore because that team keeps changing general functionality, and now we have the PS team doing it also?

This has worked PERFECTLY since 2004 at least, and now it needs changed? Give me new features, don't mess with general functionality that has worked the same for 2 decades.

4 Messages

 • 

90 Points

I'm kind of glad that I'm not the only person suffering from this unnecessary change. The phrase, "If it's not broken don't fix it" springs to mind and I can't work out why you'd break such a staple and common function. This has killed my workflow, and on top of that the shortcut doesn't even work for me.

4 Messages

 • 

90 Points

So, as a workaround I went to the keyboard shortcuts and changed "Save Copy" to the CTRL+SHIFT+S shortcut. Still have to deal with the suffix copy but its one less step.

11 Messages

 • 

206 Points

@MohitGoyal you say that a new button was added "for convenience sake." Convenience would have been leaving what was working just the way it was. Adding unnecessary, cumbersome steps to the work process is NOT convenient. If some of your engineers think that there's a benefit to having the option of doing it this new way, then make it an option that the user can customize. Do NOT force this stupid encumbrance on those of us who work with this every day.

You may not consider it a bug, but those of us who use the program intensively absolutely do. 

(edited)

249 Messages

 • 

5.3K Points

@Stewart Reading-Brown Or better yet, revert to previous Photoshop and enjoy a smoother experience. 

Though, it bothers me if this wont be changed and I will be stuck between not getting new features or having to deal with this. But for now, there's nothing new in Photoshop worth sacrificing the whole save as feature. 

9 Messages

 • 

172 Points

Its a total waste of Adobes time and money  - someone has too much time on their hands. All it does is steal our time.

3 Messages

 • 

90 Points

@MohitGoyal I would not call this change an improvement in the workflow. By forcing us to click another button to find our intended file type then adding the work "copy" to the resulting file has increase the work in the workflow, not streamlined it. Please change it back so we can go about our business of paying for the best imaging platform on the market. 

1 Message

 • 

60 Points

Worst decision ever Adobe. I know what file formats to save in if I want layers or a flattened image. It took a google search, a read through posts from 2012 to then find the random link to this post where it was explained. Been a user of photoshop for over 15 years and this is the most ridiculous change I've seen. 

(edited)

1.1K Messages

 • 

18.2K Points

For everyone bitching about this, you obviously missed the *numerous* threads complaining about people losing data when using Save As. You can't have it both ways. I'm fine with this if it reduces the chance of data loss.

28 Messages

 • 

310 Points

@lumigraphics  You may not know this, but a lot of people don't spend a lot of time on this forum, knowing the ins & outs of all of the threads being posted. Did people miss the numerous threads? Yes. What does that tell you that there are numerous threads? It's a big problem with a solution that was poorly thought out. If you're one of the people that spends a lot of time here, you're going to have to get used to this question popping up *daily* as more people upgrade to 22.4. 

8 Messages

 • 

144 Points

I don't understand how people were losing their data. The only person I've worked with in 15 years who would some how loose their work, had no clue what they were doing. They would create a new file, work on that file for hours without saving, take a screenshot or save a jpg to share and then quit Photoshop without saving the working file. They would even bypass the "Save warning" box. They did this in Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign. 

29 Messages

 • 

416 Points

I don't understand how, either. Our office uses Catalina, and Save-as seems to have worked as it always has. Save-as a JPG (copy) from your layered PSD, and your layered PSD is still a layered PSD. It's not as if it flattened the PSD to save the JPG.

3 Messages

 • 

82 Points

@MohitGoyal Don't appreciate the new "update." More work, it's cumbersome, and doesn't even make sense to me. I work in my private business, don't use Apple operating system, and don't share with with a big "team." I just want to save-as in the way I used to. Good lord, please reverse this. 

2 Messages

 • 

88 Points

A nightmarishly bad solution that punishes existing users, and inexplicably appends "copy" to the end of a filename when I do not know a SINGLE PERSON who has ever willingly used that messy naming convention in their own process. Literally just adds friction to the workflow.

2 Messages

 • 

72 Points

@MohitGoyal

 Kretyn to wymyślił czy idiota? 

3 Messages

 • 

90 Points

@MohitGoyal please restore the previous procedure for saving files. 

1 Message

 • 

60 Points

@MohitGoyal This is dumbass and shows your attitude (PS's attitude) that YOU will decide FOR ME what formats I must/can save in and if I don't like it, you're going to make me take extra steps, 

Excuse me, but I thought YOU WORKED FOR US, not the other way around. 

How many photographers wrote to you and begged for THIS piece of crap change? NONE! Because it doesn't serve our needs. 

SO you have a choice: Leave things as they are and in doing so tell ALL of us that you don't give two hoots about OUR needs and choices, or admit you made an error AND CHANGE IT BACK. 

More choices ALWAYS trumps fewer choices at the users' end. 

30 Messages

 • 

442 Points

@MohitGoyal Stopped making "features" that no one asked for and fix those that we wanted fixed. I am still waiting for the fix to the broken spring loaded shortcut "feature" that your colleague promised almost half a year ago! Bloody hell do your jobs properly!

1 Message

 • 

60 Points

@MohitGoyal that's so unnecessary... 🙄 it's not like you added any new options in exchange for the old ones, they were all always there. 

And then when I do save copy it opens the last folder as opposed to the folder in working on. And from seeing the comments it doesn't seem like most people are happy or agree with it and why they use the "if it aint broke don't fix it." What would it take to get it back to the way it was?

11 Messages

 • 

206 Points

@MohitGoyal

Sorry Mohit, this IS a bug - which you created.

54 Messages

 • 

616 Points

@MohitGoyal Made it WORSE!!!

Will discounts on subscriptions be offered?

Seriously considering options otherwise.

2 Messages

 • 

70 Points

@MohitGoyal wth? why? is there that many user who don't know how to handle files?

2 Messages

 • 

70 Points

@MohitGoyal  Change it back, this is terrible, add so many more key strokes and interrupts workflow.  Horrid idea!

1 Message

 • 

60 Points

I had a final the other day I was trying to finish (using Photoshop for the project) and I was stuck because I couldn't save my work. I ended up Exporting As.

This Save a Copy only option is not working. It adds extra steps and changes the routine workflow for those who don't need to save a copy. There was already the option to save a copy for those who wanted it. Don't take away the normal Save for those who don't. Please.

(edited)

2 Messages

 • 

96 Points

@MohitGoyal This has been a useless change and cost me time and embarassment yesterday as I needed to respond for an urgent request for an image and was screen sharing my processing via Teams with my manager. Changes in fundemental systems should be better communicated. I have lost work and time because of this change. It complicates an efficient workflow. If some people were having problems then perhaps this should be optional. 

9 Messages

 • 

214 Points

@MohitGoyal It has created a productivity issue for many of us photographers. It's adds time to the workflow. It's not appreciated and needs to be corrected ASAP! I regard it as a bug that slows down my workflow. You might think it's necessary. For us, it stinks!

13 Messages

 • 

246 Points

@MohitGoyal NO NO NO !!

This behaviour of the software is absolutely killing my workflow and productivity. People who says it's an improvement, are either total newbies at PS or just use it once or twice a year ! When you have to handle 100+ files per day for high-demanding clients, you want to make Ctrl+S and save your PSD and immediately after Ctrl+Shift+S and save your TIF (without layers for delivering HD file or ready to print) and then Ctrl+Shift+S again and save your JPG for the preview. Now this simple export process is just impossible. To do this, it has become a hassle of menus and submenus. People here suggest to use "Export As". Right, it can't export TIF files-useless. I need to flatten everything myself ? Waste of time. I have to use the sh*tty button "Save Copy"...oh yeah and then waste a lot of time in the explorer renaming all my files with the stupid "copy" appened to the name ! Adobe, are you trying to change Photoshop in a hobbyist, unprofessional tool ? Remember when you killed Quark Xpress with InDesign ? Now you're heading a very good path to be killed by DaVinci Resolve and Affinity if you continue to break everything you carefully built over decades ! Please act towards your customers no against them ! Listen to pros !!! We were already using Photoshop when you were still in your mum's belly !!!

(edited)

37 Messages

 • 

724 Points

1 m ago

This 'feature' is ridiculous. 

It is literally for the benefit of the tiny slither percentage of users who use both Windows and Mac regularly and ruined every normal Windows user's workflow. 

Our muscle memory of this action is as old as PS! How can you just change something like this!!

Also - people saying "just use 'save as copy" - erm, obviously you don't realise that this then adds the word 'copy' on the end of the file you're saving!!! 

THis is such a mess and I don't think I have ever been angrier at a developer. 

How many people switch between mac and windows for PS on a daily basis? An absolute fraction I am sure. Yet this 'feature' ONLY benefits them. Way to mess up muscle memory and workflow for the vast majority.

If Apple change something then change their software for them and let them get angry at their OS. Us Windows users being lumped with their OS changes is totally unfair. I am an industry professional and use this function many, many times a day and need it to be fast. Thanks. 


8 Messages

 • 

144 Points

I completely agree! An update for 5% of users, isn't an update worth doing.

9 Messages

 • 

144 Points

A benefit for 5% of the users is fine... but only when it doesn't really tick off the other 95%. That easily understood truth seems to have escaped the marketing people. 

7 Messages

 • 

160 Points

Why is is this thread marked with an "accepted solution"? The displayed answer isn't a solution but a middle finger towards the paying customers who, at least on Windows, have to accept an unnecessary deterioration of their user experience.

Employee

 • 

128 Messages

 • 

2.6K Points

All messages have been read and received... your constructive feedback has not been ignored.

11 Messages

 • 

206 Points

Does that mean you're going to do something about it, or are you just reassuring us that we're being listened to, though not with enough interest to act on what we're saying?

Imagine how much easier this might have been if you had sought input in ADVANCE!

33 Messages

 • 

452 Points

SVR, the problem isn't that they don't want to, the problem is that they can't. MacOS doesn't allow it. Not that I think anyone cares.

I bet they regret introducing direct save to jpeg in CS5...had they known what was coming, they wouldn't have touched it.

SYAWEDIS

59 Messages

 • 

774 Points

@dag_fosse oh please, they would have been forced to introduce Save As > JPG at some point from the millions of people who would be requesting it. Or you reallyy think Adobe would have opted to not implement it after being flooded with messages like these:

"Hi , all these programs use Save As > JPG, even crappy programs like MS Paint, why is your premium software stuck in the stone ages?"