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656 Points

Sun, Nov 18, 2018 8:43 PM

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ATTENTION ADOBE. You have broken the system!

In Photoshop CC no longer uses SHIFT to constrain (a long held convention across all programs) but now uses SHIFT as unconstrained. 

This is confusing and totally slows down my workflow.
OK so constrain is now default but this should be a preference you can switch on and off.

I need unconstrained as standard for my work.
PLEASE by all means add features but don't change basic conventions!

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4 Messages

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140 Points

2 years ago

I totally agree, been using PS since day one, this is so stupid. This latest release has SO MANY bugs I refuse to use it.

So glad I keep my old WORKING versions.

205 Messages

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5.1K Points

2 years ago

I understand as well but I am sorry to disagree. As we are dealing with images and all images coming from cameras have a preset ratio, the tools should logically start constrained.

I also understand the confusion when something changes but change is inevitable and Adobe tries to change design to meet the needs of the customer base as a whole and this is a major improvement for many users.

Of course, it would be great to have this as a setting in preferences so we can get this to better match our workflow.

22 Messages

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656 Points

But they have changed the standard of SHIFT = constrains. It's a terrible change to a convention. I understand about default constraint of the image but that too should be a preference setting.

20 Messages

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686 Points

Why a preference? If something is worth doing right, it's worth doing right. Too many preferences are a sign of bad design.

What Adobe should've done is make constrain transform the default, make the link icon between W&H sticky so anyone who wants to use unconstrained transform can do so (it's visual, no need to open Preferences).

Furthermore, they should've made constrained transform the default for shapes and paths as well.

There are always going to be users who will say this or that doesn't suit my workflow. Adobe should ignore them and just do what's right because, otherwise, too many cooks spoil the broth.

205 Messages

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5.1K Points

An even better idea!!

22 Messages

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656 Points

The real problem is changing SHIFT from constrain to unconstrain. I could live with the other change.

5 Messages

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320 Points

Doug is right. Shift has always been constrain across the board. Between every Adobe application, it constrains. Whether you're resizing, moving, or selecting, shift ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS constrains. Go ahead, try it out. You'll see we're right.

It's also worth noting, Shangara, that everyone's workflow is different. Just because you feel it should be constrained by default doesn't mean it should. But it means it should be an option. I work in many Adobe applications on the daily for my job, and switching between the two methods is entirely confusing and not intuitive. That's bad design. An option to control that is good design as it allows for people who are only using Photoshop as hobbyists to set their preference. And for us professionals to use it as it should be -- freely.

Furthermore, Photoshop isn't only for photo scaling. If that's the only reason you need constrain, good on you. But when I'm digitally painting, I'm not scaling things proportionally.

Lastly, as I stated in my post on the forum, the tool is called Free Transform. Not Constrained Transform. So technically by default, it should not be constrained. 

Your opinion is, of course, your own. But disregarding a majority of other's workflows is foolish at best.

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656 Points

Thanks Mathew. You get it! : )

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5.1K Points

I agree, Matthew. Standardization across softwares that are part of a single platform (Creative Cloud, formerly creative Suite) is an absolute imperative. I do, however, like the idea of a sticky setting. That seems to make it work for everyone.

22 Messages

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656 Points

Joel, my main issue is with the change to how SHIFT works.

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602 Points

2 years ago

You can switch that on or off in the preferences.... So no need to get back to an older version here!

22 Messages

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656 Points

There is only a preference to use Shift to change tools. Totally different.

48 Messages

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1.4K Points

2 years ago

I agree and disagree with all of you. ;-)
The problem is, how the change to proportional scale was made! Not the IMHO very good change itself. I really love to have a proportional scaling by default. Dealing with photos, predefined shapes and text I actually almost NEVER need an unconstrained scale, which would distort the photo, the shape, the text ... therefore I love, that I do not have to hold down the Shift-key for the basic scaling all the time and only need to use modifier-keys for perspective transformations and such things. So far, so good.
BUT (yes, it is a big & fat but! ;-) ) the problems with this change in Photoshop CC 2019 are:
  1. The change is permanent. Without the currently shared hack, there is no way back to the established method that uses Shift to constrain (and using the hack steals the display improvements of the on-canvas-controls in CC 2019). There is no legacy-option in the options-bar or in the preferences. And the chain-link-symbol in the options-bar has been made totally superfluous, because the function it now has, is totally counter-intuitive to anyones expectations. Just ask yourself or a bunch of users, what they'd expect of this button. And then try to find out, what it does in Photoshop CC 2019. For me it is impossible to understand, how this UI-fail could have made it into the release as it is now. No-go!
  2. The change is inconsistent within Photoshop: We, the users, have to be constantly aware now which layer type is active. Because the new constrain is only active for pixel- or text-layers. Not for shape-layers. Not for placed layers, with an active path in the background. No-go! Consistency is a must! (Now and then the behavior is even different on some placed Smartobjects; but I did not see a repeatable pattern so far, that I could bug-report it).
  3. The change is inconsistent with all other Adobe-Apps currently. No other Adobe-App currently has a proportional scale without holding down Shift. This alone is a strong reason to provide the option mentioned in #1 until all applications behave the same way.
  4. (BUT!!!!!!!!!) The worst thing about the transform-overhaul is that damn auto-commit though! This totally breaks my workflow all the time. I scale and rotate placed elements. Now, if I click just some tiny pixels to far away from the undefined (and by rotation changing!) safe region, the transformation is committed. That means, repeat and rinse all the time! Cmd-Z, Transform again, be very careful about where to click to rotate or move points ... In the last 15 years of my Photoshop-history this is the one and biggest and most hated change of all times. I never cursed so much before, really. It completely breaks my creative flow within Photoshop constantly, although I really tried to accommodate to this total dealbreaker-"feature". Mainly because of this issue I am completely back to using CC 2018 for work. 
To sum it up: All this makes Photoshop CC 2019 quite unusable to every professional user. All Adobe had to do, is to make the chain-link-option in the transform-options bar remember its last state (best solution: Make it so in all Adobe-applications!). Everyone would be happy. And there would be no tears, no frustration and no hate. Why? 

  1. All layer-types are transformed proportionally (constrained) by default. This is indicated by the activated chain-link-symbol in the options-bar.
  2. If a user prefers unconstrained transforms, he just clicks the chain-link-symbol once to disable the proportional link forever until he decides otherwise and clicks the symbol again. Done. Everyone is dancing in the streets.
What is so hard about to understand or implement this behavior? Really, this is THE solution to make everyone happy: the beginner, who does have no clue about using modifier keys and even all  professional users, who either like to switch the behavior of Free transform once to their preference and then use modifier keys to get the wanted results as fast as possible. 

22 Messages

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656 Points

Yes. Make it so the user can configure it to their needs. I too have dropped back to CC 2018.

205 Messages

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5.1K Points

Good comment and it seems everyone could agree with this!

20 Messages

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686 Points

No need to revert to CC 2018 if the proportional constrain default is the only change that's not to your liking. Here is a hack: https://helpx.adobe.com/uk/photoshop/using/free-transformations-images-shapes-paths.html

48 Messages

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1.4K Points

The mentioned hack does not solve the infuriating auto-commit by clicking in the canvas.

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17K Points

2 years ago

The problem isn't the change to tool behavior. The problem is Adobe's ham-handed approach to application design and changes.

The product managers apparently don't actually USE their products in production. Almost everything- new document interface, artboards, Export vs Save for Web, Select and Mask, the newest Content-Aware Fill, newest Healing Brush, brush smoothing, flat design, help popups... ALL of it has been buggy and/or slowed the user down.

I'm all for new features. But implement them in a way that doesn't make things harder, communicate changes (SETUP ASSISTANT for new versions!) and have the goal that any change much improve performance and usability or you scrap that change.

We won't even talk about the mutiny over Lightroom import changes. Upper management needs to pay attention to red flags like that and obviously isn't.

22 Messages

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656 Points

I was worried this might eventually happen.