Why aren't document windows floating in Photoshop Elements 9.0.3?

I'd hate to think that I bought Elements 9.0 and had this option taken away from me and am forced to buy Elements 10.0 just to get it back.

"But the Elements team has heard your feedback."

Chris, with all due respect, the official response in this thread claimed Adobe wanted to know our preferences. That response was posted five months ago.

Adobe's online product page for PSE 9 uses the words "easily," "quickly," and "convenience." Yesterday I used PSE while working on images for web banners. I opened new documents at least twenty times. Each time, I had to reselect "Float all in windows" and rearrange the files. I could have done the work more quickly and more conveniently in a previous version or in a competing, less-expensive application.

Yes PSE is not as expensive as PS, but I purchased the version 4 then the 6 one, the 8 one and the 9. Each time I expect on a better software, but in fact it isn't.

PSE 10 was announced today. If restoring the "Float All in Windows" preference is available in 10, but not made available as a free update in 9, you will have lost me as a customer.

I've used PSE at home since it was called Photoshop LE. I've purchased Photoshop for my daughter. But I will not continue paying for such arrogance toward good customers.

PSE 10 Announcement

I love Photoshop Elements and rely on it for almost every graphics thing I do, but there is one thing that really interrupts my work flow and makes me irate: I would like to be able to disable the tabbed window (that is, to have the option of having ONLY floating windows). The problem with the tabbed window is with how it works, not just its existence as an option. I am often in the middle of a project with several windows and, if I move one the windows just right (well, wrong), they all jump together into an unwanted tabbed window. I just hate that! I have to interrupt my train of thought to pull the windows apart and then pull them all out of minimized mode. It's just one of those things that makes me furious because of what a pointless interruption it is. If you can't give us the option of disabling the tabbed window, can you at least make it so that one has to **deliberately choose the tabbed window through a menu** - that is, so one can't just accidentally *fall into* a tabbed window? Thanks for listening!

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Photoshop Elements: Tabbed Window needs to play hard to get, not be default.

At least 90% of the time, I want multiple images to open "float all in windows" to compare or match up photos, or to create collages. I'm told that until 9.0.3, which is the one I have, this could be done by default; now I have to hunt through the drop down menus to do it every single time PSE is opened. If this is correct, is there any way I can revert to 9.0.2 to re-enable this feature?
John Sankey

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
float in all windows disabled in 9.0.3 Elements.

Does anyone here have version 10 yet?
If so, is the floating windows problem fixed?

ATTN: Adobe Employees.

First, I sincerely appreciate that someone actually replies to our questions/complains/etc.

Second, I really think that the problem is semantic. The problem with tabbed versus floating multiple images is simply not what the preference is addressing. The text for the preference says, "Allow floating Documents in Full Edit Mode" (emphasis added). The way I interpret that and, apparently the way many others do, is that opening multiple documents will result in multiple document windows (tiled, cascading, floating, etc.) when they are opened in PSE.

However, it seems to me that what the developers assumed that this preference would simply ENABLE multiple document windows and even then Only after the user then uses the Windows menu to specify which way; tiled or cascading.

In other words, the preference doesn't actually change anything about the way documents are displayed when first opened. The Default action is to open documents in tabs, even though the preference is set to "Allow floating Documents..." The "Allow" function only "allows" the user to take another action to get them to actually float.

Does anyone at Adobe understand what I am saying?
Do any other users understand what I am saying?
I don't want to have any tabs showing anywhere when I have told the app to "allow" floating documents. Period. What part of that concept is everyone at Adobe having a problem understanding?
Am I totally "off-the-wall?"

Of course, now that version 10 is out, I suppose there will non longer be any work done on 9... And I will absolutely not be buying any version until Adobe can figure out how to get the program to understand English, even Her Majesties English!!!

At the extreme risk of sounding racist, I notice that the vast majority of the list of name on the opening flash screen are, shall we say, other than Anglo-Saxon. Is there a language barrier involved in the preferences text and the implementation?

Thank you for your attention.

Hi Genevieve

With PSE10 floating windows operates just as it used to in PSE9 before the Wacom patch screwed things up :)

Wendy

Meaning that "float in all windows" is default in PSE10 and not the tabbed ones?

Boblige

Once again ... I can confirm that float all in windows works properly in PSE10. If you set it for float all in windows that exactly what it does ...

James ... I'm not at all sure what you mean by "verified, source-mentioned confirmation of this requested/expected/normal behavior".

All I can say is that I am currently using PSE10 and Float all in Windows works as it used to prior to the "fix that unfixed it" in PSE9 :)

Wendy

Wendy, certainly no offense intended with my rather harsh comments. I just didn't understand your "qualifications!" "Confirmed user" is all I need for verification! I would appreciate your mentioning which OS you are using, however. I may be paranoid, but even paranoid people have enemies!!! 8-|

Plus, I think your experiences would be a great benefit to everyone at this site! Nothing like first-hand, user comments to help us 'less-than-bleeding-edge' users make the leap.

Thanks, again!

I'm really disappointed that I'd have to pay to buy something that I used to have in Elements 9.0 and had it taken away because I was trying to apply patches that were supposed to fix something else.

Janet's correct. I don't mind paying for new features.

This, however, is outrageous. There's a comment from an Adobe employee above that states, "We are not above reverting to the original behavior. Let us know your preferences on the subject."

That response was made SIX months ago.

I understand your disappointment. I can only suggest that you review the new features and then decide if they are worth the cost. I'm not at all sure that I may not wait until v.11, myself. We've yet to have v.10 in wide use and it is possible that another item may be discovered that would add to the frustrations of paying so soon. For example, can we now save our choice to "Always" in the "Append File Extension" pref without it reverting to 'NEVER' and requiring a deletion of the plist? :rolleyes: