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Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:02 PM

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Photoshop Elements: Where is the map feature in PSE 10?

Hi,

The mapping features have been removed from PSE version 10 and I believe that this is something to do with Yahoo stopping development on their mapping feature.

I had just started to use these features in PSE version 9 when I upgraded to 10 and I miss the geotagging features. I notice that in version 9, they are still working.

Why can't we have the same version 9 features in version 10?

Are ther active plans to provide mapping features in the future?

Will version 10 be patched to add them?

Brian

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9 years ago

It's a little more complicated than Elements taking the feature away. Details in the following topic:

http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/923/cpsid_92...

Yahoo discontinued the mapping related resources (API) that Organizer relies upon.

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9 years ago

Brian,

We are not looking at providing any patches for version 10 for mapping features.

But we are looking at future versions for such a support.

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Are any patches being looked at for version 9, since I have already bought and paid for that functionality?

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112 Points

9 years ago

I find this very unfortunate and quite disapointing. Particulary because one of the main features I am currently using in PSE9 is the mapping feature.

Further to that, having bought this product in eary 2011 only to discover that by summer the mapping feature no longer worked (mid-way through building my catalogue) was quite frustrating. I find it extremely bad business practice by Adobe to not ensure support of features in their product for a minimum amount of time (reasonable time would be 2 years). As Adobe is working with a license-based model, whereby I am purchasing a product from Adobe, they should guarantee that the product I purchsed works (i.e. offer an alternative to Yahoo Maps in PSE9). Yahoo may have stopped its service, but Adobe is responsible for the features in the product I purchased, and should be able to offer more than 3 months where the features work!

Akshaya (or any other Adobe representative), please read these other related threads:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4136416
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4009392
http://feedback.photoshop.com/photosh...

If any others are as frustrated by Adobe's lack of support, response or ownership of this issue, please add your comments to this thread.

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9 years ago

I too am surprised that Adobe would sell a product and then take away a major part of its functionality. Surely this is not legal or ethical. I do quite a bit of world wide travelling and this was a major selling point for me. I now have to do all my tracking using Picasa from Google. I am afraid that this is an essential function for me and I will not be using Adobe products in the future.

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9 years ago

Jeffrey,

thank you for your reply. Although I understand that Yahoo may have discontinued the API, there surely must have been some licensing agreement setup between Adobe and Yahoo for the use of this API. Further, there must have been some notice that this API would be terminated.

Yahoo has directed people to migrate to the Nokia maps API. Even if the timeframe provided by Yahoo was not enough to integrate a new map API immediately, Adobe should offer a patch (9.0.4) which would restore mapping capability to PSE 9 (using eithe Nokia maps or another API such as Google) as I am assuming that this version should be supported for longer than a few months after purchase.

Worse now, I've just leardned that all the geotag data I've included using a third party tool (Geosetter) is lost when I use Photoshop Organizer to upload to Flickr. This means that I will need to redo all of my geotags for the 85 pictures I've just uploaded. Why would the GPS data stored in the EXIF data of the picture rely on the Yahoo API for uploading to Flickr?

Unfortunately the Organizer component of Photoshop Elements, one of the major reasons I purchased PSE to begin with, is not fulfilling what it was advertised as doing. I'm at a loss for where to go next.

Michel

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9 years ago

I am disappointed in Adobe for not standing behind their products. Not only I have lost the ability to add GEO data to my collection of photos, the software crashes when trying to access the feature. If Yahoo changed its API, then Adobe should take the time to provide a patch to their product that at the minimum, prevents it from crashing. I would prefer them to resolve the issue by providing the capbilities advertised when I purchased this software within the past year.

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9 years ago

I have PSE 8 and had set up numerous photos using the map feature. In late December, unaware of the Yahoo issue, I successfully added about 325 photos from a 4,500 nautical mile, 15 day cruise from Florida to Chile to the map. Now all PSE shows me is a blank window when I click Show Map. Based on quite a bit of research on the PSE Help & Support pages over the last 2 days, I assume all is lost. BAD DEAL!! It makes me question Adobe's acceptance of responsibility to its customers.

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Hi Ted, as the article states, "No GPS data that was previously added or recorded by the camera is affected or lost. GPS data can still be viewed within the image properties." So all the work isn't lost.

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Pardon my saying it, Jeffery, but while it may not be "lost", being able to view raw lat/long gps data in the Properties panel is bugger-all use to anyone!

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9 years ago

Hi Jeffrey, I was wondering if you could get Product Management to comment on whether they plan to do something about the mapping feature or whether Adobe PS9 customers should start looking for alternatives.

Thank you,
Michel

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Hi Michael,

Akshaya has already commented on the Elements team plans above.

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9 years ago

I think that means "no". Michael, you asked about version 9 that had the function before Adobe let the ball drop. Akshaya was referring to version 10 that never had the function and future editions. I have given up on Adobe supporting version 9 and have gone to Picasa. It's free and the mapping function is much better and easier to use since it is Google based and not Yahoo! based. I know use Adobe solely for processing raw files and will not be purchasing their products in the future.

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9 years ago

I, too, bought PSE9 with one of it's biggest selling points being the mapping feature. 9 is my 3rd gen PSE product and I have over 13,000 photos in my library georeferenced that I can no longer map.

Is there an easy way to export to Picasa?

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114 Points

9 years ago

Yes, Picasa will pick up your geo data automatically and place it on Google Maps. I also use Smugmug and and they have switched to Google Maps. I believe they use to use Yahoo! Maps as well, but the switch to Google was transparent to the user. They did not simply tell their customers to "get over it".

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9 years ago

I've given up on Adobe as well and am now trying to find another organising tool. Unfortunately, I just realised that although the Geo data is maintained, most of the tags are not. They must be stored in Adobe PSE's catalogue DB. Does anyone know how I can get all this information out and stored within the picture's EXIF data?

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9 years ago

Michel,

By default the tags are not written in the picture. You can use 'File >> Write Keyword Tag and Properties Info to Photos' option to write the keyword tag information into the picture.

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9 years ago

I geo-tagged around 20,000+ photos taken over 50 years using Photoshop Elements (using various versions). I used this info to identify approx. locations - even though Yahoo maps were rather poor - instead of using detailed tags or captions.

Suddenly Yahoo maps disappeared, leaving me with a major problem. [Fortunately I hadn't yet bought the latest upgrade of Elements when I discovered this.] Although Yahoo may have withdrawn maps with little notice to Adobe, it isn't right for Adobe to hid this from its loyal customers. I even reinstalled the s/w as I thought my version had become corrupted - before I found out what had happened!

Adobe has made no announcement on if/when geo-tagging will be reinstated. If it is re-instated, please use Google maps!

So please come clean - and perhaps you wont loose so many customers - and let us know your plans.

Until this happens I shall assume Adobe has abandoned its Catalogue facility (I noticed that recent upgrades have improved the Editor but left the catalogue virtually unchanged).

In the meantime I've had to start using a different catalogue (even though some Adobe geotags haven't been recognised properly) - this will mean much time-wasting and loss of functionality.

Peter Grover

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Unannounced loss of geo-tag functionality.

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Hi Peter,

The Elements team did publish an article on the Help and Support page on this issue: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/923/cpsid_92...

As Akshaya explains, the Elements team is looking at providing a map feature in the future - and I believe that they would use Google Maps. He can possibly clarify

He also has a suggestion (just above this post) for making sure that the geotags are written into every file - not sure it that has anything to do with your last point about some of the images not having info recognized properly. Hopefully the data's there, and just hasn't been written into the file for other apps to see.

Have you looked at the Map module in the Lightroom 4 Beta at all?

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/li...

Lightroom does use Google Maps, so I'm curious what you think of Lightroom's implementation.

Sr. Product Manager, Adobe Digital Imaging

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Since I dislike using Google, this isn't going to help me very much. It is a shame that there isn't a standard interface that would allow us to choose a different mapping site.

Brian

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Unfortunately, developing a product to work with several map API is exponential amount of work and complexity. What mapping site do you like best?

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Yes, I understand your point.
I tend to use Bing maps and I believe that they may be linking up with Nokia so things aren't static there.

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OK. I think I'd make a new topic request for Bing map support in Elements. No promises, but at least that way we could gauge interest in different map API.

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8 years ago

I'm another long-time PSE user over several versions, and have been very disappointed at the poor response from Adobe on this issue over the last six months or so.

As others have commented, it seems incredible that a reputable corporation such as Adobe would simply let users flounder about, re-installing the product and searching for fixes and wondering what happened, without either
a. pro-actively bringing out a Bing/Google map API in a PSE9 upgrade as other software suppliers appear to have done in their product lines, and/or
b. providing some explanation of the disappearance of this major product line function on the PSE10 product website, and/or
c. making a product statement of intent about the future use or otherwise of an alternate map provider to restore product functionality to PSE.

With well over 10,000 cataloged images, I'd always found the map functions very useful both for geo-tagging the images as part of my cataloging work-flow, and for organising and finding images when required.

With the loss of this function, short of replacing my digital cameras I've been using an Android app and an associated PC Java program (Geotag Photos Pro from TappyTaps) to write GPS data to my new photo images, but this doesn't help with cataloging scanned images or externally-sourced images, or with mapping new location keywords. I'm dismayed at the thought of having to re-catalog my entire digital image collection (stacks, version sets, notes, tags, tag notes, tag heirarchies, albums, . . . the mind boggles!) in some other photo-catalog product.

Please, Adobe, how about a better response to the PSE customer base than a dismissive non-reply, or a "make a new topic" response!?

If anyone has actually raised a formal request for alternative mapping support (I can't find one) I'd appreciate a link so that I can add my voice.