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Mon, Oct 10, 2011 8:54 PM

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Photoshop Elements: Date discrepancy when saving files PSE 8

Photoshop Elements 8 now is assigning an old date when saving a file or saving it to a new name. My other programs such as Word are saving files to the current date so I know it's not a computer problem

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9 years ago

How old is the date? A day? A week? Months? Years?

Does it correspond to any pattern? E.g. always 5 days previous to today's date. Or 1 month previous to current date on file.

Would you be able to provide before and after example files of this happening?

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I originally answered your e-mail and included examples. The dates assigned seem to be related more to the original jpg file that I am editing. I have uploaded 2 jpg files to my following reply to Andy. I was not able to upload the psd file.
Sure hope you can help

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9 years ago

Hi Joy,

Can you please check and tell how older a date it assigns when you do a file save?

Thanks
andy

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9 years ago

The dates seem to be related to the date on the original jpg file. For example, an old photo was scanned on 9/22/2011. It was edited 1/3/2012 in PS8 and the date of the psd file was 1/3/2012. The psd file was then saved as a jpg and the date assigned was 9/27/2011. By the way, I was not able to upload the psd file.

Hope you can help.

One photo was scanned in 2003, edited giving a psd file dated in 2011 but the edited psd file saved as jpg ended with a date of 2003.

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9 years ago

I took a look at these two files.

First off, according to the Windows Properties window, they both have the same date. When I bring them into the Organizer, the edited image has the older date.

File dates are a complicated thing. There could be many of them attached to the file in metadata. I don't want to get too technical, so suffice it to say that there is a specific date field that Organizer looks at to determine the date to display/use.

The first file has almost no upfront metadata, most of the fields are blank. When saving the file from Elements Editor, a deep dive is done on the file, dredging up a bunch of hidden information, which is used to fill in those blanks. So the edited file has more information to work with when displayed in the Organizer.

If you want your images to display with the latest date (i.e. the last time it was edited), select the file(s) in Organizer, go to Edit > Adjust Date and Time (of Selected Items). From the dialog that appears, choose "Change to match file's date and time".

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9 years ago

This solved the problem. Thank you very much.

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8 years ago

Turns out this did not solve the problem. The correct dates are now shown in the Organizer and continue to be correct for the psd file, but not for the jpg file in the folder on my computer.

Today, 5/4/2012, a photo I edited in Photoshop Elements 8 shows the date (in the folder on my computer) as 5/4/2012 for the psd file but when I saved it to a jpg file, it showed up as 7/27/2010 for the .jpg file. The photo was first scanned to a jpg file on 8/22/2005.

What else can I do?

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Sounds like that file has had a long, interesting journey. The more a file gets messed around with, whether editing, renaming, moving, etc, a date in the metadata is changed or added to a long, complicated list.

What date do you want the file to have? The same as the PSD? If that is the case, I would suggest doing this:
1. Open the JPEG in Elements Editor.
2. Go to Select > Select All (Ctrl/Command+A)
3. Go to Edit > Copy (Ctrl/Command+C)
4. Go to File > New > Blank File (Ctrl/Command+N)
5. Go to Edit > Paste (Ctrl/Command+V)
6. Go to File > Save as (Shift+Ctrl/Command+S)
7. Save as JPEG

This set of steps strips the metadata from the file (by only moving the image data to a new file), which will reset all date data to today's date.

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8 years ago

Thank you. This gave me the current date which is what I wanted.

Could there be any unintended consequences by doing this? Something that isn't obvious to me now? Also, doesn't re-saving a jpg file as a jpg file mean some (more) of the image information will be lost?

Would it work just as well and maybe better to do this with the psd file which I had been editing?

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The main thing that happens is that all metadata is gone... which is what we wanted essentially anyway in this case.

As for compression, what I have noticed from my own experiments is that if you do not make any changes to the pixels or the level of compression (the quality slider), then the compression that worked before continues to work. In other words, re-save a JPEG with no changes and the file is not "re"-compressed. I have not been able to discover any degeneration of an image through multiple saves to JPEG when not making changes.

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8 years ago

Thank you. That is good to know. I appreciate your quick response.