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Sun, Oct 22, 2017 12:27 AM

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Lightroom Ecosystem: Ability to create a Custom Crop Ratio preset

Where is the "Enter Custom..." option from the old Lightroom and how do we get it back (see attachments)? I like to make my photos 1080x1080 for Instagram and was able to do this in the LR Classic version.

 

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568 Points

4 months ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Crop ratios.

Would be nice to specify a crop ratio, or alternately could we have A4 size.

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210 Points

3 months ago

I've probably filled out a half dozen surveys from Adobe about Lightroom over the last few years, including several very long detailed ones. On every survey Adobe asks what they can do to improve Lightroom. On every survey I've asked them to give me the user defined crop sizes I had in LR Classic. This would seem to be such a simple, simple add.  :-(

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5.2K Points

3 months ago

Yes, please add it in LR Cloud Versions!

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102 Points

3 months ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Could somebody please, add the pre crop setting back to lightroom? and with hope....

there used to be a feature where the user could pre-set the crop ratio. this feature seems to be gone. could somebody put it back? something so simple as cropping takes so much time when I need a very specific crop ratio. I mean why would you even take it away? please put it back and soon hopefully. hopefully on Wednesday :D 

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2 months ago

Don't hold your breath. Adobe would rather further develop stuff people won't want (I'm not joking, too many times coming across this) than stuff paying customers have been begging for for 2–3 years, if not longer(also too many times coming across this). Then they have their many sycophants tell us how great we have it by giving them our money to not get what we want for all these years. All we have to do is Vote and tell them that we want it. There are several of them across all the main boards you can go to for help, but when you have vote after vote after merged topic after pages and pages of merged topics of the same thing and pallets of cash rolling in and you're actually told (not referring to this topic) that Adobe has no plans to address the years old issue people have been wanting but will further develope the thing causing the problems in the first place, you know they don't give a crap. As long as you give them your money. I'm ignorant enough to have two subscriptions, one for myself and another so my kids can do their schoolwork at home. I need to go to the district and demand that they stop using Adobe because the kids won't know what to do once Adobe pushes away all their customers and no longer has a business.

 

Kick me off the boards for this if you wish. Voting for an bug/request counts for about as much as a bag full of holes. The only answers I ever get from here are Adobe broke it and Adobe has no plans of doing it. I can get that help elsewhere. Everything else I see here is other poor saps wishing our money went to software that actually did what we wanted after years of paying for not even software we get to keep, a service that was "sold" to us a being upgraded constantly to take care of this kind of stuff. Bah!

 

*Edit — I dumbly came here looking for an answer to entering custom crop ratios in Lightroom Desktop CC and Mobile, and voted for the feature.

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Sadly, you are right. Adobe doesn't care much about requests and bug fixing. They're focused on that community / learn / tutorial page no one ever asked. But that makes sense: Adobe is not developing LR for photographers anymore, but rather for smartphone users with zero knowledge on photography.

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102 Points

2 months ago

After all this bad mood text I felt like exploding and got in contact with Adobe support. The only thing I got was a link to a feature request form. This in the end results in opening this page here. 

 

So it looks like, adobe really gives a shit about paying customers.

 

Maybe @chris_cox_2148894 or @jeffreytranberry or @Rikk or @lightroomqueen have more chances to support us on getting this little feature. Or at least have another idea on whom we need to contact to get our "Enter Custom Crop Ratio" feature.

 

Please help us. This missing feature costs a lot of extra time per picture as we need to do this in third party software.

 

 

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It is just speculation, but I doubt they have any power to change Adobe's priorities. Bug reports and requests (which sometimes are just bugs but not acknowledged as such by Adobe) with tons of comments and votes are ignored for years.

 

This forum is merely a way for Adobe to get ideas for free and keep an eye on serious bugs, but in no way a true channel for feature requests.

 

The only real power you have is 1) to cancel your subscription and maybe 2) leave review on a app store.

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I agree with Antoine and want to add that a friendly request is much better than an unfriendly. 

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True, but you also have to understand the frustration after years of unsolved bugs. Adobe is treating its customers like excrements and deliberately retains features, so one mustn't be surprised to read frustrated messages on this forum.

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PLEASE VOTE ! 
Antoine, yes that is true, but the best option is to VOTE

:-)

Peter

 

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I fully agree that usually, the positive and friendly way is much better. I teach my trainees to work the same way.

 

For YEARS I get frustrated regularly because I would need to work as following:

1. Prepare the RAW photo in Lightroom

2. Export the photo as JPG to HDD

3. Crop the image in third-party software

4. Import JPG into Lightroom Catalog
5. Check the photo again. Mabye start over at step 1 from here if anything stuck out after cropping

5. Print the photo

6. Check the print. Mabye start over at step 1 from here if anything stuck out after cropping.

 

It would be so much easier if the "custom crop ratio" would be available. I need this for every single photo.

 

On top, that's the reason why a lot of people around me are still not updating to Lightroom CC and stay on old version.

 

Therefore I can fully understand why people are getting angry and put their frustration in words in here. We feel completely ignored by Adobe.

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Sebastian, are you working only with LR Cloud with a mobile device? 
Recently (with help from LightroomQueen) I have synced all my cloud pictures to LR Classic. I am importing all pictures in LR cloud Desktop and can edit it in LR Cloud or LR Classic where I have custom crop factor. 
Ok, the best would be to have the functionality in LR Cloud, but there are a lot missing functionality ie graphically watermark and many others. 
LR Cloud is not for professionals to say it clearly. 

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I didn't realize you could do that.    I cleverly moved a large chunk of my portfolio into the Cloud and have regretted that, and moving back to Classic has seemed daunting.     And I'm getting more comfortable with just Photoshop and sometimes prefer just to work there -- so I'm emerging with a mish-mash of options, not a consolidating story.

 

So specifically, is there a pointer to sync'ing the LR Cloud pictures to (with) LR Classic?   Much appreciated.

(course, I'm searching around and may just post a new question...)

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Hi Bill,

my intention was to have a backup of my edits and not only my originals.

I have 40000 pictures in the cloud and it took a week to sync it to LR Classic, but now I can edit in LR Cloud AND in LR Classic.

Ok, the keywords are not synced and you have to to import all your pictures via LR mobile or LR Cloud Desktop. I have the LR Classic catalog and all synced originals on a external SSD. If I need to work with LR Classic with a different catalog, no problem, I can always open the LR Cloud Backup Catalog and all new cloud pictures are synced.

When I delete pictures in LR Classic, then these pictures are moved into the trash bin in LR Cloud and stays there 60 days. If I delete in LR  cloud then the pictures are NOT deleted in LR Classic, they are no longer synced and can be identified per Smart Collection. That is a nice safety feature. Again, thank you Victoria Bampton (LightroomQueen) for helping me to realize that solution. 
:-)

Peter

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To be honest, I didn’t see the benefit of LR « cloudy » and stayed in Classic. With classic, you know what you have and can only expect improvements. Even though there are almost no significant updates anymore.

With cloudy, you rely on Adobes good will and you should know the focus is not on photography anymore, but on smartphones users, “tutorials”. Also have a look at how easy (or not) it is to retrieve your images from the cloud. Lastly, ask yourself if it’s safe on their servers. Spoler: last iOS Lightroom update (-:

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Hi Antoine,

this LR mobile Update disaster was really terrible and triggered me to search a full backup method, even I was not affected. 
Ok, it is unbelievable that people use the free version without cloud sync and no backup, but it is unbelievable as well that Adobe has delivered this killer update. 
Adobe should better inform users what they can do with LR Cloud and how LR Cloud and LE Classic works best together. 
I think I have found a good method to be able to edit and show pictures on my iPhone, iPad and Desktop plus do advanced editing in LR Classic, including a backup in 3 places, 1) Adobe Cloud 2) my iMac and Timemachine 3) my MacbookPro with external Sundisk SSD. I guess this is ok for a non-professional photographer like me. 

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Bill, I do some similar stuff to what Peter does by using both LR Classic CC and Desktop CC to edit. This is long but much easier than it looks, just detailed plus I tend to be wordy. Then there's a "short," mostly related rant at the end. My LR Classic catalog on my main editing computer is the main repository for all my photos and edits. As of now I have no plans on moving to the cloud. From LR Classic I have been working on uploading only what I want to the cloud, and even then it's mostly just Smart Previews. 

 

I use my phone a lot for photography and have captured some awesome photos that way. If I ever get my book done (years so probably not), several of the photos I have picked out are from my various phones. Using LR Mobile has been awesome for getting the DNG files into LR Classic. I'm also an organizer for my local photo club and having quick access to a large selection of my photos to do various things for the club has been very handy, such as talking with members (more later) and showing examples of various things, posting on club social media and such. CC is awesome for all that.

 

I do not carry around a portable drive with my catalog and originals. That is left connected to my main editing PC. I will upload photos from LR Mobile CC and LR Desktop CC on my laptop and those will auto sync the originals and edits to my main LR Classic catalog computer. Once I'm back to that computer, inside LR Classic I will move those photos out of the LR Sync folder and organize them into my normal file structure. I also move the new collections where I want them. This doesn't effect the cloud in any way, just my local file system.

 

Unless uploaded from that device (more later) and/or the sync settings were changed, the photos that are synced to LR Desktop are Smart Previews and not the originals, so if I know there are photos from my LR Classic catalog I'll want to edit on my laptop I take a few steps first. *A note on this part, I may have turned off "store a copy of all originals" a long time ago and just don't remember. I don't think this is the case though. I'm on a new laptop and sync originals is off. I don't know if that setting syncs. Also, when I say photos I want to edit, I mean ones where I'll need the originals. Things like PSDs, TIFs and RAWs for panos, HDR or focus stacking. I don't need the originals for all editing obviously. Most edits on Smart Previews work just fine to sync back to the originals in LR Classic.

 

Using LR Desktop, down in the bottom right hand corner of the screen if you check the file information on the photos you want to edit it may show you only have smart previews available local and most likely the cloud so...

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The Steps:

 

•On LR Classic (on main computer) I make sure the ones I want to edit are synced. Usually not even a step I need to take any action on because I've already done this, but it never hurts to make sure.

 

•I then copy the actual files from the main PC. I drag and drop them into LR Desktop on my laptop and the import dialogue pops up. If the originals are there already LR will quickly realize they are duplicates and not import those (grayed out), if not LR will link them to the synced Smart Previews and you should see that soon after you hit the import button.

 

•Click "Import" button.

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3 steps, one of which is most likely already done and the other is a "duh" mouse click. Of course I'm leaving out finding those originals, which you have a couple options of doing. I'm hoping you know where your originals are located or how to export a batch of originals without changing anything about them. Here is where Adobe could really simplify things for us and save us some data usage with native LAN syncing. Probably not going to happen if we can't even get custom crop ratios.

 

You can do this across a network connection (my preferred method, I'll go have a cup of coffee) using Windows Explorer and I'm assuming Finder on a Mac or use portable media like a thumb drive.

 

*The second step requires having folders shared across a network, which I'm not getting into, but if that's already done then you're golden. If you're not sure how to do that then either use the thumb drive or take the opportunity to learn something new. It's a very fulfilling experience.*

 

Now, again using LR Desktop on the laptop, looking at the file information I can see that the smart previews and the originals are available both locally and in the cloud. I can now do my regular edits, like full fledged Photoshop, reopen and continue working on PSD or TIF, HDR, pano, focus stack, whatever.

 

This seems like a lot of work, but honestly once you do it a couple times you'll figure out it's pretty simple. It could be so much easier if Adobe would implement Local Area Network sync. I don't need all my photos in the cloud, and I don't need all my cloud photo originals on my laptop. Even more, why use my precious internet data to transfer to a computer sitting right next to me. LAN sync would be lovely.

 

Doing it this way let's me have access to the select originals I want on that device and they will sync with the Classic catalog. Note, uploaded originals from that device will remain on that device as originals and Smart Previews unless I remove them. An example: if I copy my SD Card to my laptop and they upload to the cloud, then they will also automatically sync to my Classic catalog as originals along with most (not keywords 😶) of my edits but remain on the laptop as originals too. If I open a file in Photoshop from the LR Desktop CC program to do my stuff, save and close it so it finishes it's loop out and back into LR Desktop CC, that file will now sync to the cloud and back to my main PC with those external edits and those changes will be reflected in my LR Classic catalog. Any new, original files created on my laptop from LR Desktops merge feature, say one of those panos or HDRs will sync it back to my main PC and LR Classic and also remain an original on the laptop. They will sync back and forth. I, personally, don't know about doing this with other external software, just PS and LR. Just don't close LR Desktop first. *Be sure you don't have any of those PSD, TIF or whatever files open elsewhere so sync corruption doesn't happen. I haven't had this issue yet and have been doing it this way for awhile.

 

Classic beats Desktop and Mobile, hands down, however I've had many instances where being able to pull out my phone and go through my catalog to show someone a photo or on a whim post an old photo has brought me sales. I like being able to do edits on the go then get to my computer and really polish it in Classic and PS if needed. As Peter mentioned, you can do your edits in both and they will sync. If I wanted a 3 x 1.5 aspect ratio I could enter that in Classic and it would sync to the CC ecosystem. Problems arise when those photos I made sure to sync to my laptop to create that pano while I'm gone, or this new set of photos I just took and loaded onto my laptop while in a hotel on the other side of the state. I can't get to my PC to enter a custom crop.

 

Yes, I could install LR Classic on my laptop, import those photos into a totally sperate catalog, set the custom crops and whatever else I wish, save the metadata to XMP files them import all that into LR Desktop while I'm out and about, but why. And how about while I'm on my phone or tablet, can't do that on those. Why not have the feature to set a custom crop ratio in the CC Desktop and Mobile apps, something people have been asking about for years.

 

Why not be able to say that this person is not actually a rack full a blueberry muffins but a guy named Steve that I met years after I made those muffins. I'm not making this one up. Apparently Steve is also a trumpet and in photos where he was standing *behind* me handing out raffle tickets when I took them.

 

Why not be able to sync between devices over a local network. As it stands now they have to go up to the cloud (understandable, cloud service) then back to the other device sitting next to me. Then with my backup software (Crashplan) it goes back up to the web. 3 times. I have an additional backup but that is local over the LAN so I'm not counting that one. That's just counting the originals (the ones uploaded via LR Desktop CC) and not the Smart Previews. If I follow my method above it eliminate one of the trips and data usages so that's something to consider for yourself. Native LAN sync would make the above so much easier and negate some of our data usage. Especially now that [some of] our kids are home doing distance learning and chewing through the data like there's no tomorrow. (That may have been a poor choice of words the way this year has been going. 🤔😬)

 

Why not be able to hide photos in sub albums. What is the point in even having albums if everything is visible in parent folders. It's a bit difficult to have a good file/album structure setup if people can easily look overy my shoulder and see photo shoots that THEY SHOULDN'T SEE because every album is visible below the folder you're currently on. Some photo shoots are private clients, some are people that may need to stay out of site from others, say for domestic issues. Yes, that is a thing and I do it yearly. It's hard to give presentations to large groups of people when every photo is visible for the world to see. That's one of the reasons I don't give the presentations anymore. The software is not worth it, even with it's advantages. On a private scale, using it to show examples of edits and how to use the software to photo club members is also difficult because I need to hide my screen and can't show steps taken to get to certain points. Turning my laptop one way opens it up for others to see everything. I believe (not 100%) it was LRQ that told me you can't not view everything in sub albums. Sorry for the double negative. You see everything in the sub albums in that folder. If LR Desktop happens to open up in All Photos view then everything is on full display. I've been suprised a couple times when it opened.

 

Lightroom is starting to hold me back. When your tools start to hold you back, that's when it's time to upgrade. I've read and edited this so many times to make sure I didn't say anything stupid that now I feel stupid. Sorry for any rambling, grammar or typos.

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So, I have a large set of photos in the Cloud - coming from Mac uploads, Android phone, iPAD iOS, and web.

 

So to be able to edit those Cloud photos easily with LR Classic on the home computer, can I create a new LR Classic catalog on the home computer, and "Sync" that with the LR Classic Cloud option to "start sync'ing".  And let it run a while.

 

I ideally then, if I had a photo in the Cloud, sync'ed to the home computer, I could edit that with LR Classic locally -- ie the crop settings stated as needed here -- and it would sync back to the cloud once edit'ed and saved.

 

 

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74 Points

Subscribed for updates on LR CC crop ratio issues.  If possible, please move this Cloud/sync-centric conversation to the appropriate thread.

 

Looking forward...well, I mean, not actually because I doubt it will ever happen - thanks Adobe...to further updates on custom crop information from this thread.

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Hi Bill,

yes, that is exactly what I have done. And a minute ago I have tested the custom crop factor in LR Classic and it synced back to LR Mobile.

Please be aware that the first sync is taking several days when you have many pictures. 

You will see the pictures first, then the albums. And be aware that LR Mobile folders are not synced. The albums are becoming Collections in Classic.

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For b_g...  been trying to minimize the tangent here.

 

But also trying to show Adobe the great lengths some of us have to go to get around the lack of basic functionality in LR Cloud.   And while a little convoluted, this approach looks like it’ll work as a long term “solution”, since I see little hope of a fix/feature coming.


‘For Adobe as well, the lack of functionality also caused me to step back from plans to up the cloud bae to 2TB.  Time to Find other places to store photos.

 

for Peter... thanks.   Ordered a new clean hard drive to sync to.  With 30k photos in the Cloud, I figure it’ll take days.   This year, I’ve got time to spare.   Will report back in a week...

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From what I read, Bill, it looks like you're talking about running two catalogs. Keep in mind you can only sync to the cloud from one LR Classic catalog at a time, even though you can have as many Classic catalogs as you want. If you've synced from any other catalogs you will get messages nagging at you about this and grinding sync to a halt. (Real fun trying to get that working again if you need to go to a backup catalog.) You will have to *turn off* sync each time you change catalogs to your "offline" Classic catalog to get around this problem. Ideally you should turn off sync before you even open the main catalog. Other than that, yeah, sounds like you got it. 

 

Unless you really need them separate, I do not recommend running two catalogs for this because of the incredible ease for sync issue headaches. I'm getting one just thinking about it. They have caused me many problems and I don't see Adobe having addressed them. It wouldn't be hard to keep Mobile cloud synced and Classic imported photos separated into two parent folders or parent drives along with parent Collection Sets in LR Classic. They are stupid easy to move around inside LR Classic. IMO, that is something that was done pretty well, even if it is sometimes a bit slow to move large chunks of photos.

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> Maybe [...] or @lightroomqueen have more chances to support us on getting this little feature. Or at least have another idea on whom we need to contact to get our "Enter Custom Crop Ratio" feature.

@sebastian_tho Apologies for the delay replying, I'm busy catching up with myself. The votes on these feature requests on this site feed right into the internal systems used by the managers when determining priorities, so the best any of us can do is get lots of people to vote. The more votes, the better its chances.

Victoria Bampton a.k.a. The Lightroom Queen

www.lightroomqueen.com

Author of Adobe Lightroom Classic - The Missing FAQ and Adobe Lightroom - Edit Like a Pro books.

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2 months ago

My workaround right now is to make an album with various blank crop template images of sizes I use a lot. I will then go to whichever size I want, "Menu", "Copy Settings", check only "Tools" (uncheck everything else) then go under that sub menu, and select only "Crop". Back arrow, Check mark, then go to the picture I want the crop on, "Menu", "Paste Settings". Custom crop applied. Not ideal but it works. *

 

 

 

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I created a new thread for continuing the "sync" discussion.

 

How do I edit a photo in LR Cloud (Desktop) with LR Classic and stay sync'ed?

 

I will copy / summarize some of the posts from here into that new thread.

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Thanks Bill.

 

On what I said above, I discovered that only seems to work on LR Mobile CC. It will apply the correct crop just fine there. LR Desktop is only bringing in the crop equidistant from what the original crop was from on the original image only if I adjust the crop on the image. LR Mobile seems to not need any adjustments at all to work flawlessly. If the edge was brought in 40 px from the starting point in the original, copied, image then that is all it will be brought in on the pasted image. It is not changing the ratio at all.

 

For example, I started out with a weird sized jumbled up pano and copied the crop of a 3 x 1.5 blank image and pasted it on that pano it wouldn't change anything. If I made the crop slightly smaller with the original ratio on that 3 x 1.5 and copied it, all it would do on that pano is move the edges in the same amount the edges moved when I changed the crop on the blank image. The crop ratio on the piano would not change. Again, this is on LR Desktop. On LR Mobile this is not an issue. I can copy/paste and it will adjust the crop ratio just fine. Awesome /s

 

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10 Points

2 months ago

i'm in the boat with everyone else - is there an update on this feature??

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320 Points

a month ago

Would like to imput my costum aspect ratios with numbers just like in Classic. Based on Pixels is for me most important :D

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Costum Aspect Ratio Imput

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110 Points

a month ago

In Lr CC I'd like the ability to enter custom crop ratios like it exists in LrC. It would be even better if I could then save this as a standard selection.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Ability to enter custom crop ratio

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286 Points

7 days ago

Some of the features still missing from Lightroom (not Classic) are so basic, it is really frustrating. Especially when we have been discussing this just here for the last three years. 
Every time we create calendars for the holidays, I end up here, every time I end up exasperated that this still hasn’t been fixed. 
Just today I was thinking of fully moving from Lightroom Classic to Lightroom (because the former is so slow on my iMac while the latter is delightfully fast on my iPad), but once again I have see that right now this isn’t possible. 

Voted. Adobe, please get this done. 

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