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356 Points

Tue, Dec 26, 2017 5:09 PM

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Lightroom CC: Add ability to store original files locally in custom folder structure

CC should allow us to store originals locally in the folder structure of our choice, just as we can in Classic.  CC currently allows us to pick one folder for all originals, or to put all originals in folders by date captured, but it would be way better if we could create a custom local folder structure for each import or file just like in Classic.

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32 Messages

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554 Points

3 years ago

The problem with these locally stored photos is that you loose the connection in Lr when you start moving the photos. I did not switch to Lr and kept Aperture exactly because of that reason. I am very hapy that Lr adopted the current way of managing the photos for me. It is possible to store copies as back up though and otherwise export them.

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3 years ago

I would not be too hopeful for this idea. The point of Lightroom CC is to liberate the user from file management and to put assets primarily in the cloud only to be local when needed. A robust disk-based folder structure supports neither of these goals. If this is a make-break requirement you are probably better served remaining with Lightroom Classic CC.

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356 Points

3 years ago

Yes the cloud liberates you from file management. But it puts you at the complete mercy of Adobe and CC. If you ever decided to stop using CC or if Adobe’s cloud somehow became corrupted, you’d be left with tens of thousands of local files with zero structure to them. All albums and organization would be gone.

I don’t get why they can’t at least give users the option.

Or, alternatively, if Classic would sync the full sized files to CC, then I could use Classic to organize everything the way I want and still have the full-sized files available in the cloud. By my understanding is that Classic only syncs smaller previews to the cloud, not full sized files.

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554 Points

3 years ago

In case you want to end the subscription you could export all photos. Adobe Bridge can be used as second Photo Manager. The way I manage my photos is: I have One Drive as back up of my original RAW when I move them from my SD card to my hard drive. The secons step is: import RAW in Lr. I use Apple Photos for my JPEG’s (simply because it has more options: I can see my photos on a map, face recognision, smart albums etc, and to separate them from RAW in Lr). My idea is to always have a copy of the first and last photo of the process. After some time I may delete the RAW files in One Drive. Lightroom is my fiddle yard: the area where I can play with the photos any time, any place.

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60 Points

Is there a way to export all photos and retain the structures you've put in place? E.g. I have a set of structures in Lightroom CC like Folders/Albums. I'm regretting this now as I'd prefer it all to be simply in Google Photos but can't seem to get it out and retain the folder structures easily without going manually album by album which is too much effort for 20 years of photos!

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82 Points

Hi Rabbly, did you figure out a solution to this? I'm considering migrating to Lightroom CC, but want to make sure I'll have a way to migrate away from it if desired in the future without losing all the organizational work I did

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82 Points

2 years ago

There should be an option that you tick:
Option 1: Sort files locally by date
Option 2: Sort files locally by mirroring LRCC folder/album structure.

Simple. It isn't even that hard from a technical point of view.
Saying it cannot be done because the cloud is to not consider the workflow/tools of many photographers.

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Option 2 is available in Preferences > Local Storage

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> Sort files locally by mirroring LRCC folder/album structure.

The same photo can be in multiple different albums. How would you expect that to be reflected on the hard drive? You want lots of duplicates of the same file?

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304 Points

a year ago

I would also very much like to have the option to tell Ligthroom to save the files in a folder structure corresponding to the album structure (option 2 from above). If an image would be in two albums it would be also copied to both folders. That would be the obvious thing/tradeoff.
The alternative would be to have the option to export full album folders and have an export option to mirror the albums as folders on export.

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390 Points

a year ago

Like most of us (I think) I ́ve spent hundreds of hours on sorting pictures in Albums & Folders. As you in the meantime can export Albums to folders, it should be very easy to implement that recursively for LRCC Folders with all Albums that are in them.

That would also allow us to create a complete Backup "on prem".
Victorias remark (duplicates) is correct and there should be a warning and mybe an option that exports should only happen once. Maybe accompanied by an duplicate.txt file that contains a reference information to where the file first was exported to.

That all would only be a "last line of defense" not to loose the work that was spent in building up the Album hierarchy.


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114 Points

3 months ago

I like being able to use Lr Mobile on the go; often I use my iPad to make selections/ even light edits(or heavier) on the way back home from a shoot. While Lr mobile syncs with Lr Classic effortlessly, I'd still love to be able to use right-click and store locally any of the albums created on the go in Lr Mobile (including the album, as created in Lr Mobile).

Yes, exporting originals + edits exists, but it's just cumbersome to make the export, and then re-/import in Lr Classic, only to have a "double album"-which requires a delete from Lr Mobile, and then a resync with the "newly"-old album. I'm sure many of the pros use local backups (NAS, HDD, etc). 

While I understand that Adobe may have a different agenda(forcing the user to buy cloud storage, maybe?; cloud being the future, etc) it would solve the many steps described above for storing locally. Adding the option for single(or multiple) albums to be stored locally(originals+xmps) will be perfect for everyone.

No, the auto storing locally option is not good enough. I search my photos by job name, not by date. And even so, there are no edits stored locally. 

I wish Adobe would ask us users about these features; every serious photographer I know uses his own folder hierarchy for storing the photos locally(NAS, HDD, etc) from different jobs. Yes, Adobe offers up to 20TB of could, but it's damn expensive now. The cheapest solution for long run is still using HDDs.



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It's early, I haven't had enough coffee yet, but I'm not quite sure I follow. In which app are you wanting to be able to store an album locally? Mobile apps don't have a right-click, Cloudy desktop already has a right-click store locally, and Classic always stores locally. 

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Ok, I’ll explain again.
1. Save the photos on iPad(or any device on the go)
2. Add photos to Lr Mobile, creating an album named “example “
3. Have it synced with Lr Classic
4. Now what I’m missing: Right click in Lr Classic On the “example” album to be stored locally on the HDD, including the name and edits, to sync both ways.

At the moment, my workaround is to export from Lr Mobile originals plus edits=>delete the original folder from Lr Mobile=>import the exports from HDD in Lr Classic=>create a smart collection to sync with Lr Mobile.

I’m not talking about the possibility to save the raws without edits- I know it’s possible; but somewhat to make it the root album on the HDD from which the cloud version to take it’s updates, or to write updates to.
I hope this makes it clear ... I could make a screen recording if that helps.

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> Right click in Lr Classic On the “example” album to be stored locally on the HDD, including the name and edits, to sync both ways. 

I'm really sorry, I'm still not following. LR Classic ALWAYS stores the originals and edits locally. By default they're stored in a special folder on Windows or a special package file on Mac, but you can set that to a "normal" folder in Preferences. If you want the xmp sidecars in addition to the edits being stored in the catalog, that's in Catalog Settings.

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More details here.
https://youtu.be/GIHPRN5dQ0o

Please let me know after you see the video to delete it.

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Got it.

Ok, in the Folders panel, open the Christian iPad volume. That's a special package file on your computer.

Select all of the photos in the Christian iPad volume and drag them into a normal folder, with the rest of your photos. Then you can right-click on any photo and choose Show in Finder to see where it is stored on your hard drive.

Then go to Preferences > Lightroom Sync tab and check Specify Location for Lightroom ecosystem's images and choose a folder. You might want them organized into subfolders too. Any future downloads from mobile will then go to a normal folder, stored on your hard drive, instead of the hidden one.

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Thank you,
This actually works for me.
Thanks again!