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Fri, Feb 22, 2019 8:41 AM

Lightroom/Camera Raw: Wrong white balance information from the D850 Raws

There is a big difference between the white balance that I have adjusted in my camera (measured by Lumu Power 2 Pro)  and what I get in Lightroom and Photoshop.

You ́ll find the screenshots of my camera adjustments, screenshots of what I get in Lightroom, the Raws and a table with all the differences, in the link below


https://adobe.ly/2TIN3et

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18.9K Points

2 years ago

It's not wrong, just different as a CCT kelvin value is a range of possible colors as seen and explained here :
http://digitaldog.net/files/22Thecolo...

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2 years ago

Okay I ́ve understand that. I ́ll have to work with camera profiles etc. Didn't know that. Thought it would be all time 1 to 1. How can I close this case here ? 

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55.4K Points

I've just done it for you.

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Camera profiles are WB agnostics.

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36.3K Points

2 years ago

Using "custom" in-camera white balance settings for anything other than JPEG output is an exercise in futility. The camera's raw data processing ("picture styles") is much different than LR's. Never the twain shall meet as explained by the Color Management Expert Andrew Rodney.

IMHO a better solution for raw files  is to use a ColorChecker Passport or a White Balance card. Shoot it in the scene and then use the LR WB Eyedropper to set the correct white balance. It takes less time, is more accurate, and less expensive than a Lumu Power 2 Pro.

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2 years ago

Thanks for your advice, Todd. Normally I would say you are right. But I ́ve spent months finding the best workflow for me. I ́ve tried the color checker, greycards, and also the spyder cube. But the best results that I ́ve ever got, are with the Lumu Power. Till I have changed my Kamera. :-D. Maybe I was lucky with the standard adjustments in LR&PS and the combination with the D800. And now I have to learn more about color management. But I love to have proper information directly in my files. Maybe just a mindsetting, but in my opinion, the results were the best, even when I've shot in raw.

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Till I have changed my Kamera. :-D. Maybe I was lucky with the standard adjustments in LR&PS and the combination with the D800.
The only difference I am aware between the D800 and D850 is the Adobe Standard camera profile was changed. In September 2014 Adobe silently changed the Adobe Standard camera profile rendering, which slightly lowers the color saturation and contrast. The D800 was released in 2012 (before change) and the D850 in 2017 (after change).

https://forums.adobe.com/message/9095782#9095782
As you can see in the below controlled test shots the D850 (right) rendering looks a bit anemic compared to the D800 (left). One solution is to use the Camera Standard or Adobe Color profiles. Better yet purchase a ColorChecker Passport and create a custom dual-illuminant (2850K & 6500K) camera profile, which you may provide even more accurate rendering.

H

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ColorChecker is ordered (again ;-)) 

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Glad to help. Let us know you have any issues using the ColorChecker Passport (CCPP).