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Lightroom: Support sub-second (milliseconds) field in filenaming templates.
This would allow people to start filenames with date-time so alphabetical order is same as capture time order, and would create unique filenames (without yet another field) and properly order bursts....
Presently, exif metadata includes subsecond field, but Lr filenaming template stops at full seconds. So for unique filenames, one would have to tack on some kind of sequence number or something as well.
So, as things stand, one can have:
YYYY-MM-DD_HH-MM-SS_{seq-num}_{photog/camera...}
but not (as I would prefer):
YYYY-MM-DD_HH-MM-SS-MS_{photog/camera...}
A side benefit is that filename indicates subseconds between shots in a burst, which is otherwise unavailable in Lightroom without a plugin. Although, I could argue for displaying that too in formatted metadata display, even if only upon mouse-over.
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I would like to use Lightroom import dialog box for importing, instead of the plugin I use now, but it stops just shy of what I need/want still. - this is one of the things. However, if import actions were implemented, that would be enough.
Presently, exif metadata includes subsecond field, but Lr filenaming template stops at full seconds. So for unique filenames, one would have to tack on some kind of sequence number or something as well.
So, as things stand, one can have:
YYYY-MM-DD_HH-MM-SS_{seq-num}_{photog/camera...}
but not (as I would prefer):
YYYY-MM-DD_HH-MM-SS-MS_{photog/camera...}
A side benefit is that filename indicates subseconds between shots in a burst, which is otherwise unavailable in Lightroom without a plugin. Although, I could argue for displaying that too in formatted metadata display, even if only upon mouse-over.
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I would like to use Lightroom import dialog box for importing, instead of the plugin I use now, but it stops just shy of what I need/want still. - this is one of the things. However, if import actions were implemented, that would be enough.
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rob_cole_2221866
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10 years ago
In the interest of naming such that:
- alphabetic order matches capture time order, even if all photographs were exported to a single flat folder.
- multi-photographer/multi-camera considerations are handled satisfactorily.
- uniqueness is ensured.
- bursts don't required "funny/artificial" sequence numbers or appendages for uniqueness.
- name is still tied to original on card, which usually doesn't matter, but may matter at the beginning or if re-associating via undeleted image on card... and makes me feel good.
- filename is still intelligible to humans, yet not "too" long.
My naming convention has changed to:
{date}{photog}{time}{camera}{image-num}.{ext}
where:
date = YYYYMMDD
photog = 2-char initials, I'm RC
time = HHMMSS - local time zone (toyed with UTC, but I mostly don't travel out of time zone, and if I do, I'll still probably want local time zone, if I can remember to change my camera, and if not, then I get CA time...)
camera = 2-char designation:
char 1 = manufacturer
char 2 = letter corresponding to number owned, or whatever if another photographer (maybe try and distinguish model).
image-num is in-camera image number.
for example:
19950624RC040242NA0001.JPG - for photo taken in 1995 by me using my first Nikon, corresponding to DSC_0001.JPG in camera.
20110624RC040242NB3390.NEF - for photo taken in 2011 by me using my second Nikon, corresponding to _DSC3390.NEF in camera.
20110624GJ040249CX2348.JPG - for photo taken in 2011 by George J using a Canon camera, corresponding to IMG_2348.JPG in camera.
Note: {photog} may be moved right-ward if I ever want multi-photographer photographs interlaced in time. Reminder: this is for alphabetic ordering outside Lightroom after export or when viewing using 'Explorer' (or recycle bin ;-} - oops I meant backup folder...
This solves all my problems without the millisecond field, and is supported by Lightroom import dialog box - I'm one step closer...
I still think milliseconds field should be supported, but it is no longer a pre-requisite to weaning myself from plugin back to the import dialog box.
Please forgive if too many words...
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daniel_hoherd
11 Messages
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224 Points
9 years ago
Another way to fix this problem would be to allow the body's image number to be used in file naming. This combined with the serial number would allow for fully unique file naming from supported camera bodies.
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daniel_hoherd
11 Messages
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224 Points
9 years ago
Another way to make this much less likely would be to allow the body's image number. This combined with the serial number would allow for fully unique file naming from supported camera bodies.
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daniel_hoherd
11 Messages
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224 Points
9 years ago
Another way to make this much less likely would be to allow the body's image number. This combined with the serial number would allow for fully unique file naming from supported camera bodies.
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robert_reiser
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84 Points
9 years ago
It is true that not all cameras do provide this information - but if it is not there, just set this field to "00". We can already make use of the camera serial number field, and this is also not provided by all cameras.
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jean_marie_sohier
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100 Points
6 years ago
Chris Breeze's Breezebrowser has done it very simply for the last 15 years... Just adds 1 or 01 for the first picture, 2 or 02 for the second within the same second, all automatically... All nice and easy, all file names have the same length, and hence are correctly sorted.
Thanks beforehand, Jean-Marie Sohier, jms@sealord.be.
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victor_peters
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406 Points
6 years ago
In the File Naming Template Editor in Lightroom 5 you can select the date and time in the EXIF data when renaming photos on import.
Most camera's are capable of capturing a burst of several photos within a second. In Lightroom 5 I have to use a sequence number to differentiate between each photo made within the same second. But after culling my photos (and deleting some that were part of a burst) I'm left with 'gaps' in the sequence numbering.
For renaming my photos instead of using Lightroom I use Adobe Bridge CC.
With Bridge I can use milliseconds (data present in the EXIF, field names SubSecTime, SubSecTimeOriginal and SubSecTimeDigitized) when renaming my photos using Batch Rename. Because there's no sequence number involved after renaming, deleting photos when culling doesn't create 'gaps'.
I'd very much like Lightroom 5 to also be able to use milliseconds in the photo's EXIF data when renaming my photos. It seems the information is present in the EXIF data and Adobe Bridge CC is already using it for its Batch Rename functionality (see attached screen shot).
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daniel_hoherd
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224 Points
6 years ago
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jens_erik_graversgaard
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170 Points
5 years ago
Lightroom 4.
In the Filename Template Editor you can use Hour, Minute and Second but not Hundredths of a second.
Many cameras can take multi images in a second and also put hundredths into EXIF.
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christina_lippok
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872 Points
5 years ago
- Importing photos to Lightroom
- Setting correct time via reference shots
- renaming all photos in Bridge
- Oh no! Lightroom forgot about all images, let me just re-import them...
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phil_burton_7735307
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1.6K Points
5 years ago
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victor_peters
16 Messages
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406 Points
4 years ago
When transferring my photos from my camera's memory card to my computer, one of the first thing I do is batch rename the photos to include their shooting date/time in the name.
Because I shoot in bursts a lot of the times, I have quite a few photos that were shot within the same second.
Renaming these photos in Lightroom results in a sequence numbers being added to the shooting date/time.
After importing the photos in Lightroom I start culling my photos, marking the rejected ones and deleting them. This causes sometimes for 'gaps' in the sequence of photos shot within the same second. To remedy this, I would need to batch rename the photos again.
It would be easier for me if Lightroom were able to include the 'milliseconds' attribute in the date/time of shooting like Adobe Bridge does.
Lightroom knows this 'millisecond' value. The value is visible in the Date Created meta data field in the Library Module (see screenshot below). The field clearly shows "2017-03-31T20:02:15.46", where ".46" is the 'millisecond' part I'm referring to.
I just wish that Lightroom would be able to use the 'millisecond' part for renaming photos, so I can do all my basic editing and organising in Lightroom only and not have to go back to Adobe Bridge just for renaming my photos.
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micha_landowski
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182 Points
8 months ago
We can rename files using {hour}{minute}{second} autofield (tag), but for burst shots it won;t do the job (more than one pic in one second).
Adding milliseconds in the renaming "sequence and date" part would be extremely handy (we have such info in exif) so it should not be complicated to extract that... I would have unique filename using simple timestamp (i know i can use sequence# / image# option, but it is not that convenient).
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