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68 Messages

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2.5K Points

Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:00 PM

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Lightroom: Support Common Image Formats (EPS, GIF, PDF, BMP etc.)

Feature request: Please add Lightroom support for common Adobe publishing and Web image formats, such as EPS, AI, PDF, GIF, and PNG.

Many of us use Lightroom to manage client images in NEF, JPG, PSD and other formats. But the clients' associated images, which are used on their Websites and in their logos and publications, are invisible to Lightroom. If Adobe Bridge can display these other image formats, why can't Lightroom?

Even if Lightroom did not provide direct editing support for these other image formats, it would still be extremely useful if Lightroom could catalog and display them.

It would also elevate Lightroom from being "just" a photo editor into the realm of being a true Digital Asset Manager (DAM). Now that Lightroom includes basic video support - isn't it time to support all the common image formats that our other CS applications use?

Please vote for, as well as reply to, this request if you would also like to see Lightroom support these additional common image formats...

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133 Messages

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6 years ago

well the request is over 4 years old.

adobe cares a sh*t.... obviously.
every shareware coder could do it in less time.

i mean most lightroom user are on subscription anyway.. so why do something?

a few crappy beta features every 6 month keeps most of the lemmings hooked.

68 Messages

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Indeed, Tanja, it would be nice if Adobe actually listened to its customers. This feature request is one that quite a few Adobe customers would appreciate.

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1.6K Points

A pretty typical pattern methinks ... to boost profits in the new "shareholders matter more than anyone or anything else" economy, you cut the team to the bone and work on one or two whiz bang features per release, leaving glaring deficiencies and gaping holes to fester for year after year.

However, there is a way to make improvements and that is to strike a 50/50 balance between new features and GUI / usability improvements. This is where Adobe seem to fall short.

More supported formats, much better responsiveness with face detection running in the background, discarding clicks while the GUI is frozen to prevent random actions, and so on ... lots and lots of features that could really improve the experience.

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246 Points

5 years ago

I've only recently become aware of another need for GIF file support - in particular: for Animated GIFs or Cinemagraphs produced by Photoshop CC 2015. So, I'm really surprised to discover my LR CC 2015 is unable to add them to the catalogue.

I also notice that Bridge is listed under "Previous Versions" in that ridiculous Creative Cloud App that take so long to verify my account - a possible indicator that Adobe is allowing Bridge to vanish altogether.

And another thing: they are unable to change my Adobe ID (i.e. my email) and say I must delete my current subscription and create a new one to do this. I find that to be pathetic.

All this is causing me to become p***ed off and look elsewhere, but there just isn't a viable Photoshop alternative for the type of work I do. They have me by the short and curlys.

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About your first paragraph: precisely. Adobe knows damn well how to read animated GIFs, and Lightroom is already capable of handling video - Animated GIF is nothing but mute video in essence.

About your other statements: a bit offtopic, is it not? I suggest you create a different topic for those, although I do agree.

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246 Points

I've posted a similar post on the Adobe forum and got a near instant response from support. He says Adobe are working on an updated Bridge. Most of my work ends up in Photoshop, so I mainly use LR only for RAW conversion, exporting, and its catalogue. Maybe an updated Bridge will suite me better.

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1.6K Points

Sigh ... Adobe continue to run like two separate teams that only loosely collaborate, and that really hurts the suite. Heck, I pay 10 bucks a month in perpetuity so that I can use both seamlessly ... and that vision has certainly not quite arrived ...

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246 Points

Without any kind of announcement to my knowledge, it is now possible to change your Adobe ID. Something that may be necessary if you change your email supplier as I have done. Well done Adobe, you've done something that Apple is incapable of, but zero marks for not informing me that this is now possible.

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322 Points

5 years ago

I would love to be able to import non-image files into Lightroom's database. It would be a very useful feature.

An example of where this would be useful: I occasionally have additional files which are associated with a set of photos. Notes in text files, information in PDFs, audio files, and so on. I can copy these files to the same folder as the photos in the library. But without the ability to see these files in Lightroom, to add keywords and make them searchable, they are effectively lost forever among the thousands of other files and directories.

The ability to manage these files in Lightroom would be extremely valuable. I would not expect Lightroom to support editing or even preview of non-image files. Just the ability to keep track of them.

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98.3K Points

Check out my Any File plugin -- it's intended for exactly this purpose. Not as convenient as having it builtin to LR, but it gets the job done.

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246 Points

Another option is to wait until Affinity launch their DAM in 2016.

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170 Points

hi John Please could you explain how to get it? I have gone to the Adobe Add-ons page and searched for Any File, anyfile, any - but not got a result at all. Searching for file finds something totally unrelated. OK I did a google search and found it on your home page, rather than on adobe. It is a free trial then paid for (albeit with a very friendly option) plug-in. Not sure its worthwhile for so far one GIF, but I will have to see what other files I'm missing compared to my previous DAM program.

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170 Points

4 years ago

I've just found this out and am gobsmacked. I created the GIF in Photoshop from a series of photos, exported it, and now can't use it in Lightroom. Yet Lightroom reads videos. Astounding. I came to Adobe Creative CLoud because it was supposed to be more of a standard than the DAM that I had been using. Now I find it does less. My vote has been cast for Adobe to include them, even if only to enable Lightroom to be more of a PROPER cataloguing program. I thought so! I previously had Photoshop Elements 12, and that can handle GIFs and also PDF files. Now I am even more amazed that the supposedly professional better option cannot.

68 Messages

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Yes, Jim, Lightroom still needs to support more file formats - natively, without third-party plugins.

Thank you for your support and comments. Maybe one day Adobe will listen to its users and add this needed functionality.

...pt

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102 Points

4 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Massive failing, all DAM software see bmp except Adobe.

For what would be some simple coding to view bmp files by Adobe..., Lightroom would have been the new replacement to what was an excellent DAM software, Extensis Portfolio, (discontinued and Portfolio users not happy !!!!)  but Lr doesnt support a native raster file type hat has existed since the inception of windows, that of bmp. All others do. I am gutted. Thats Lightroom of no use, I have thousands of bmp files, and no  I am not converting them, as I am making them daily with the progs that by default make them, simulators, and also I have to make them for Msoft Access database displays as it only works on bmp.

As such Lightroom falls at first hurdle.

Merlin

68 Messages

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Yes, Merlin.

Lightroom still needs support for additional common image formats. The lack of same is indeed a "massive failing."

Thanks for your comment.   ...pt

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144 Points

I don't get why this discussion is 6 years old!! This is not a hard concept, either conceptually or technically. Lightroom needs to support a full spectrum of image file formats including those formats produced by other Adobe products - period! Phil, has anyone told you why this has dragged on for so long?

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10.5K Points

Mother: I told you six years ago why you should get married!
Son: Mom!

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>>Phil, has anyone told you why this has dragged on for so long?

No, no official Adobe representative has ever explained why Adobe has dragged their feet so long on providing support for additional necessary image formats.

...pt

PS: Since my original feature request covered multiple common image formats, I hope that combining that with specific JPEG2000 support does not further bury the real need for more image format support overall.

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3.5K Points

3 years ago

Question: what is so special about GIF that Lightroom cannot support it?

How can we make Adobe see how common GIF is, and how Lightroom already supports a (albeit extremely limited) set of video formats?

GIF engines are *plentyful* and should be dead-easy to implement. Heck, even Photoshop can read and write GIF (among very many others!), so why are the Lightroom devs so stubborn in comparison?

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60 Points

3 years ago

Oh? Lightroom didn't support .bmp ? 
Now I have to go for ACDsee? Wow. 

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80 Points

2 years ago

I've been asking Adobe to let us see pdfs for... how many years now?... in their "surveys". 
Obviously no one is listening! 
Surely this can't be that difficult a request, especially when so many users are in favor. 
But I guess users don't count.

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Thank you - Keep pressuring Adobe to support additional image formats in Lightroom.

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206 Points

2 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Feature Request - Ability to Import PDF files into LR Classic CC.

Please Adobe, make your Creative Suite truly integrated with at least our own products. I want to be able to use LR to import,view and manage PDF files (an Adobe standard). I can do it in Bridge without any fuss, why can't I do it in LR. I understand this feature request goes back at least 8 years and still nothing has been done about it. If you negelect the very core premise of your CC products, i.e. seamless workflow integration, then Adobe and the CC suite will soon lose relevance and value, a competitor will come along that listens to its user needs and they will attract your customers. Once you lose your customers trust and confidence, it is very hard (and expensive) to win them back. I have been an Adobe LR user since the beta days, it is generally a good product, but it is losing its shine. In the past, third party LR plugins like import anyfile would get around this issue but that no longer works with latest versions of LR.

Another example of lacking true integration that I have raised before is not having the ability to drag and drop edited images in LR into Indesign and keep the non destructive edits. There is Live captioning between programs, but not Live edits. A significant oversight resulting in a time consuming workflow of having to edit in Photoshop, then re-save the image so the image can be placed into indesign.

Please  stop procrastinating on this matter, you have the expertise and the ability to solve these issues quickly and efficiently, just do it.

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> In the past, third party LR plugins like import anyfile would get around this issue but that no longer works with latest versions of LR.

Have you reported that to John?

Victoria Bampton a.k.a. The Lightroom Queen

www.lightroomqueen.com

Author of Adobe Lightroom Classic - The Missing FAQ and Adobe Lightroom - Edit Like a Pro books.

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98.3K Points

I use Any File for my own catalogs. Please get in touch with me at the support email address: 
http://www.johnrellis.com/lightroom/anyfile.htm#support

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206 Points


John,

I emailed you a few days ago and this was your response;


"LR CC (the new cloud-focused version) doesn't support plugins of any kind, unfortunately, so you can't use Any File with it.  Any File only works with the traditional, desktop-focused version of Lightroom – LR Classic, LR 6, or LR CC 2015 – on either Mac or Windows.

 

Thanks much for your interest,

 

   John"



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Ah, more branding confusion from Adobe's perspicuous product naming.

Lightroom CC (the cloud-focused version of LR) doesn't support plugins of any kind. But Lightroom Classic CC (the desktop-focused version), including the newest version 8.2 released in February, continues to support plugins, and Any File runs well in 8.2.  Adobe continues to develop both Lightroom CC and Lightroom Classic.

The title of your post here said "Lightroom Classic CC".  But if you're not sure which version you're running, do Help > System Info.  Victoria's article explains the differences: 
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/the-future-of-lightroom/

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206 Points

My apologies John,
Yes the naming is easy to mix up an that is what I have done.

I do have both Lightroom CC and Lightroom Classic CC and it is Lightroom Classic that I mostly use. I will tri out your PlugIn 
Although I do suggest  that you update your webpage to avoid others that may also be wondering.

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The Web page currently says, "Any File requires Lightroom 6 / CC 2015 or Lightroom Classic".

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2 years ago

Thank you, Doug Willis.

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3K Points

2 years ago

I am delighted to see the plug-in for "Any Files".  I did not know this plug-in existed. Complements to John R Ellis for the effort involved.  I will test it out and make a donation if I find it anyway useful (which I expect to do).

My background is large scale enterprise level commercial application and infrastructure development and implementation. I understand what is involved in terms of integrating systems and applications.

It has been my view, for many years, that Adobe does not under stand the meaning of 'integration' or real world 'workflow'. 

It is astonishing that Lightroom does not fully integrate to InDesign, especially to avoid round trips and the creation of intermediate files that end up  populating / clogging various directories and sub directories. There is a large number of people just waiting for the Data Merge feature in Affinity to ditch InDesign. I will be one of those then supporting Affinity.


It is also really bad form that Lightroom does not allow Creative Suite docs to be managed by Lightroom. I keep a client sub folder for each project, which contains related documents, such as briefs, agreements, project notes, etc.  If Adobe allowed pdf's to be maintained in Lr then I could work around that. Ideally, all documents of the user's choice should be manageable  by Lightroom.  This is seriously short sighted behaviour by Adobe, as it just narrows the audience for their products.


I have been encouraged by some recent improvements in Lightroom and Photoshop  usability. I sense someone in authority has joined the team and has a real world grasp of usability from a user's perspective. A release of Ps a few months ago fixed about 20 scenarios which always confounded new PS users.  Well done.   I hope this trend continues. For the first time in years and years and years I was impressed by a meaningful application update. Complements to the architect of these improvements.


Bottom line. 
Allow Lightroom to manage all file types, priority on Pdf's. Secondly, improve integration between Lr and InDesign or face the prospect of InDesign becoming a sideshow.

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Bridge is the integrated file manager for publishing files. Lightroom is for photographers. I'd rather NOT see Adobe waste resources on adding a bunch of publishing support to Lightroom. Its bad enough that they took developers away from Lightroom to create LRCC instead of working on the existing product.

Bridge has a bunch of features not in LR, and vice versa. And both are buggy and have a lot of UI problems. :sigh:

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2 years ago

Photographers like me don't want to be juggling both Lightroom and Bridge to manage our image assets. Lightroom should be improved to recognize common image formats.

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17.2K Points

I'm a working pro photographer. There is no juggling, Bridge is a file browser and Lightroom a database RAW processor.

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Sorry, juggling two different apps to manage the same image files is just not convenient. And I've been involved in professional photography for about 50 years.

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17.2K Points

Bridge and Lightroom haven't been around for fifty years. And my vote is against making LR a publishing hub. They can't even display layered Photoshop files correctly, and a LOT of other things should take priority.

Adobe obviously has limited development resources and is having trouble using them efficiently. They are spread way too thin and instead of doing the existing programs well, they are throwing a lot of mud at the wall. I'd much rather they FOCUS and do fewer things better.

Let Bridge handle publishing and Lightroom handle photography.

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Sorry, David, I disagree. As someone who needs to work with image files in InDesign, Dreamweaver, and other apps, it is not practical to juggle both Bridge and Lightroom to find and manipulate images. Your needs and workflow are different from mine.

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I don't see Adobe adding support for all those formats. That's a big job and not really in line with where it fits into Adobe's ecosystem. I'm voting no.

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144 Points

2 years ago

It's actually worse than some of the comments imply. Lightroom gives certain image types the same namespace. For example, if you have a png and jpg file in the directory, Lightroom will only show one of them.

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2 years ago

I think it is also a shame that there is no multi-user version of Lightroom, to make it more useful in SOHO and workgroup environments, as well as in enterprises. 

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2 years ago

1. Mixing Lightroom and Bridge (in my view) is a recipe for disaster.  The most obvious is moving files outside of Lr. There is also potential for side car issues, messages that metadata has been updated by 3rd party apps, etc. 

2. The minimum Adobe should do is cater for their own eco-system. There is no excuse for Adobe to ignore images in their own Creative Suite family.  Adobe have the resources to do this if they wanted to. Catering for non Adobe file formats would be nice to have. Catering for pdf's would be a super fist step.

3. They really only have to cater for the Library module. 



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LR Library module should at least support all formats that PS supports.  Who wants to fool around with two separate image management programs?  Even if no edit feature is provided for certain formats it still get's all your image database in one place.

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Yes, dbur, you nicely summarized this feature request. And you're also right that no one "wants to fool around with two separate image management programs."