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68 Messages

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2.5K Points

Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:00 PM

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Lightroom: Support Common Image Formats (EPS, GIF, PDF, BMP etc.)

Feature request: Please add Lightroom support for common Adobe publishing and Web image formats, such as EPS, AI, PDF, GIF, and PNG.

Many of us use Lightroom to manage client images in NEF, JPG, PSD and other formats. But the clients' associated images, which are used on their Websites and in their logos and publications, are invisible to Lightroom. If Adobe Bridge can display these other image formats, why can't Lightroom?

Even if Lightroom did not provide direct editing support for these other image formats, it would still be extremely useful if Lightroom could catalog and display them.

It would also elevate Lightroom from being "just" a photo editor into the realm of being a true Digital Asset Manager (DAM). Now that Lightroom includes basic video support - isn't it time to support all the common image formats that our other CS applications use?

Please vote for, as well as reply to, this request if you would also like to see Lightroom support these additional common image formats...

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4 Messages

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114 Points

9 years ago

Hi again Phil & Co
I believe I have a simple solution for this file support-problem. I've mentioned it before, but not as clear as I came to think of it this morning.

LET'S HAVE TWO (2) VERSIONS OF LIGHT-ROOM.

1. LightRoom Core
This version would be for "core" fotografers who only want the file support needed for there cameras and want to keep the LR-installation as clean and fast as possible.

2. LightRoom Extended
Supporting all file formats, extra library and publishing functions, etc. For the rest of us, who really love LR but also need a smart file-handling system in the same app (i.e., we don't like or trust Bridge, old version cue etc...).

Abobe already have implemented this model on Photoshop & Photoshop Extended. Maybe this could be the way to go to keep everybody happy? At least I believe that this will expand Adobes marketshare, and could probably get some Aperture-users to switch to (I know many of them love LR but need the file handling and therefor uses Aperture).

Just my 2 cents on the matter.

P.s. Is Abobe even reading this thread?

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704 Messages

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8.5K Points

This would add a whole new section to the development, test and support matrix. This is just not a viable solution.

These are primarily user forums, but folks from Adobe often read them.

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496 Points

This is what I have suggested on other forums some time ago. Except I like your title much better.

John, what you are saying is that it will never happen?

I don't think many people would have any fuss over some more cost for it.

I have now purchased ACDSee Pro
ACDSEE manager
PhotoMechanic
MediaPro

Countless hours testing other sollutions like FastStone, Bridge, etc

68 Messages

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2.5K Points

9 years ago

>>These are primarily user forums, but folks from Adobe often read them.

Hopefully some "folks from Adobe" see that there is considerable interest in having Lightroom support additional image formats.

If so, I suspect they can, if desired, find a viable solution that meets both their development and market needs. In the meantime, it's interesting to read positive, creative ideas by Peter and others. Those add to the discussion.

Regards. ...pt

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114 Points

9 years ago

thank's PT :-)
Keep the faith & this thread! I'll sop by from time to time...

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162 Points

9 years ago

i agree!!!

i would love to use LR for all my image content.

i have 4 TB of image textures and other stuff in EXR, PNG, HDR and other formats. i need that for Autodesk 3D Max work.

using LR and it ́s keywording features, having catalogs for stone textures, wood textures, HDR skys.... that would be great.

i don ́t want to edit all the formats in Lightrooms develop module.
i just want to use the DAM functions of LR.

so if the editing of .EXR is a problem in LR just make it like the video support.
you could not do much with video in LR 3 but at least you can manage your video footage.

unfortunately LR is very limited in the formats it supports.

68 Messages

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2.5K Points

9 years ago

Indeed, Paeter.

As you say, Lightroom is currently "very limited in the formats it supports."

Let's hope that changes in some future release.

Regards. ...pt

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496 Points

9 years ago

BTW...I have yet to read the last 10 comments..
BUT The same way I would want LR to do more of what a DAM does....I would be TOTALLY for BRIDGE to be revamped to be JUST LIKE LR, and have the same stability as LR, and same everything in Library mode. I would expect to strip down LR to a DEV app only program. This I mention to keep corporate mindsets happy.

Think about it...Still Light Room...just when you are about to switch to the Dev tab we are familair with..It launches LR developer!
If this makes Adobe happy...then I am all for it. I just need a MANAGER that does as LR does, and is stable! I don't care what title it holds.

IDImager is great looking with the feature set...but Adobe is something I am used to for the past 24 years!

947 Messages

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13.9K Points

"I would expect to strip down LR to a DEV app only program. "

I would be vehemently opposed to that, and I don't see why you'd be interested in that.

40 Messages

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496 Points

To have a proper image manager. besides it would only be in the marketablility.

The interface would be the same, It would act as a module .

example.

"LR" is open..
click Develop Tab, and pops up the installed Develop module.
(the result is as we see in LR4).

40 Messages

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496 Points

Lee Jay, You speak from the business model mindset that each subgroup being its own business entity. And you'd do ALL possible to protect it. While that may work for your departments numbers and statistic for what it is planned out to do... It doesn't translate to users! Very loyal, long time vested users... authoritative users in the industry, trend setters, teachers. NOR does it translate to Adobe as a whole. Just look at the Recent Activity topics, and the numbers. This is HIGH on the list. (Besides new users still learning how to remove a background in PS). You being vehemently opposed is stuck in the box thinking. I'm sorry. if its not your way its the highway...and that's just not good business practice. But what can we mere mortals do? sit on hands and hope it sees a financial stream and benifit for this...but you'd have to look past the 1-2 year forecast on your charts.

947 Messages

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13.9K Points

I don't understand what you are talking about.

I'm a user. I use Lightroom. I don't own or use Bridge or Photoshop. That's why I don't want Lightroom "stripped down".

947 Messages

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13.9K Points

Oh, are you saying you want to be able to buy each module separately? Given LR's relatively low cost already, what good would that do?

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496 Points

Ok, lets make a LR(standard, and LRPro. standard the way it is...Pro would have LRLibrary, and Dev as 2 apps that work together yet are individual....Much like ACR/PS

947 Messages

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13.9K Points

What is the point of that? Develop and Library are basically separate already - they're modules. They're even separate files on disk.

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496 Points

I think before I answer, we would need a good group discussion as we are having here, but with some aim and agreement that it is possible to execute......When I replied to that it was in consideration to business models, and in consideration of Bridges role. Without out that consideration it just points right back to the top, o.p. Support of other formats.

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182 Points

9 years ago

I would like LR to behave with unsupported formats
just as it did with video files :
Insert a placeholder in the catalog and redirect to
"associated" program on access.

68 Messages

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2.5K Points

>>I would like LR to behave with unsupported formats just as it did with video files : Insert a placeholder in the catalog and redirect to "associated" program on access.

Thanks, Simon. This would work for me too.

...pt

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496 Points

9 years ago

bingo...!!!! agreed

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496 Points

9 years ago

What really makes it dificult is that LR is rather fantastic at carefully manaing Raw Tif, Jpg, PSD, files...To support PDF, InDesign, Illustrator....Your family!!! Your family needs help...help them! Ya big monster!
:-)

Take a look how ACDSee supports PDF files. and other formats. You have a panel of supported formats and you simply install the converter and bam! From no PDF, to installing Gohstscript, I see and read PDF page by page.

68 Messages

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2.5K Points

>>What really makes it dificult is that LR is rather fantastic at carefully manaing Raw Tif, Jpg, PSD, files...To support PDF, InDesign, Illustrator....Your family!!! Your family needs help...help them! Ya big monster!

Yes, Raffi, it would make sense for Adobe to let Lightroom better support their own "family" of programs and image formats.

...pt

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496 Points

9 years ago

another thought....I have been purchasing LR since v1. I would install, and uninstall, then install leave it, and use ACDSeePro to view, (I tried the built in Raw dev for ACDSee..kinda cool but not for someone too serious with technically defined files). So Then I thought I better use CaptureOne as it does a number of things I agree with(Not a DAM), and allows you to see your folders the way they are, and how you manage it as in Explorer. I thought that was great. I took C1 classes , Yet I still favored the way ACRaw would control colors in the BW conversion, and C1 is a different animal..it does things different. You think a drop down or a export or something should be someplace, it isn't. It isn't wrong, but different, and one has to shift mental gears to use it from anything familiar. So when LR3.x (Someupdate) came out..Like the good boy I am..forked over the upgrade fee I have yet to use..and installed it. This time I took more time to learn it as I did with C1. And it was logical, and rather straight forward(wish the import had a stronger warning of where the files go,but)...

Meanwhile still using ACDSee to manage all else. But it was getting fed up with all my changes in LR as its DB doesn't like changes...(If it had the ?mark feature when things are gone, and update, it wouldn't crash so much)
Even so, I did the upgrade to LR4, and thinking at some point there HAS got to be a way to enable viewing PDF at least. As in production going from a photograph we output to InDesign, then to PDF files for magazines, and this is a major cripple in the flow. So to make a long story short(I know, too late)....ANY FILE THAT GOES TO PRESS HAS TO GO THROUGH BECOMING A PDFx FILE. PERIOD.

6 Messages

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122 Points

9 years ago

...and any file developede from a raw image to a printed piece(someone else can fill in for web), often gets through illustrator and InDesign and Acrobat...at least.

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62 Points

9 years ago

Some might find it's not an important feature, which is fine - we agree to disagree. The need for this is there nevertheless, and I +1 for it.

68 Messages

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2.5K Points

9 years ago

Thank you for your vote for this sensible feature request, Alan.

...pt

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514 Points

9 years ago

I guess for me it really isn't important as I see Lightroom being a DAM for photographs. It may be useful to have a export option for other formats such as PNG GIF PDF ect.

103 Messages

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1.3K Points

9 years ago

I agree with you Donald