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Lightroom: Still inconsistent capture date/time for photos and videos
Update 5/17/2018: Though LR 7.1 made improvements, LR 7.3.1 still has two closely related problems with a single underlying cause:
- With photos and videos missing metadata capture date/times (e.g. scans), there is still an inconsistency between the times shown under the thumbnails in grid view and in the Metadata panel and the hidden, internal times used for sorting in grid view.
- Changing IPTC Date Created in the Metadata panel, either by editing the field or using Metadata > Copy/Paste Metadata, similarly causes inconsistent values to be shown and sorting and searching to work inconsistently. It also causes date metadata to be written back to the files that doesn't conform with the Metadata Working Group's standard.
The underlying cause is architectural: LR doesn't have a single internal catalog field representing "capture time". Rather, it maintains capture time in several different fields, and the various parts of LR update those fields inconsistently.
See here for precise recipes to replicate these bugs:
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-still-inconsistent-capture-date-tim...
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-still-inconsistent-capture-date-tim...
See here for a workaround:
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-still-inconsistent-capture-date-time-for-videos?topic-reply-list%5Bsettings%5D%5Bfilter_by%5D=all&topic-reply-list%5Bsettings%5D%5Breply_id%5D=15475521#reply_15475521.
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LR 5.7 still shows inconsistent capture date/times for videos. For a test .avi on Windows 8.1, the date in grid view appears to be the file system's last-modified time, while Capture Date/Time is set to the time of import.This problem was declared fixed in LR 5.5, and it appears to have been fixed for images, but not videos:http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/inconsistent_dates_for_files_missing_date_time...I'm opening a new topic, since the previous one has been marked "Solved".

- With photos and videos missing metadata capture date/times (e.g. scans), there is still an inconsistency between the times shown under the thumbnails in grid view and in the Metadata panel and the hidden, internal times used for sorting in grid view.
- Changing IPTC Date Created in the Metadata panel, either by editing the field or using Metadata > Copy/Paste Metadata, similarly causes inconsistent values to be shown and sorting and searching to work inconsistently. It also causes date metadata to be written back to the files that doesn't conform with the Metadata Working Group's standard.
The underlying cause is architectural: LR doesn't have a single internal catalog field representing "capture time". Rather, it maintains capture time in several different fields, and the various parts of LR update those fields inconsistently.
See here for precise recipes to replicate these bugs:
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-still-inconsistent-capture-date-tim...
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-still-inconsistent-capture-date-tim...
See here for a workaround:
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-still-inconsistent-capture-date-time-for-videos?topic-reply-list%5Bsettings%5D%5Bfilter_by%5D=all&topic-reply-list%5Bsettings%5D%5Breply_id%5D=15475521#reply_15475521.
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LR 5.7 still shows inconsistent capture date/times for videos. For a test .avi on Windows 8.1, the date in grid view appears to be the file system's last-modified time, while Capture Date/Time is set to the time of import.This problem was declared fixed in LR 5.5, and it appears to have been fixed for images, but not videos:http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/inconsistent_dates_for_files_missing_date_time...I'm opening a new topic, since the previous one has been marked "Solved".
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brian_berman
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richard_phillips_7671921
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When exporting files that have an adjusted capture date, the capture date is not reflected in the custom file name (where capture date is selected), but the unmodified date of the original scan is used instead. This is a problem when trying to export a chronological set of files by file name (using capture time in export), and the unmodified scan date is being used to create the export file name.
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richard_phillips_7671921
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Thank you for your time Tom and John. I finally figured out my problem. I was updating using the capture time adjustment on the right side panel in the Library module. Then I would highlight a bunch more images and sync the metadata (with only the capture time selected). This changed the capture time in the panel on the right under the default metadata dropdown, but it did not change the EXIF capture date on the files. I now use the Change Capture Date under the Metadata dropdown menu at the top on a Mac. This changes the EXIF capture date and is reflected in the export name. Thanks again for your time everyone.
Note: This conversation was created from a reply on: Adjusted Capture Date not reflected in filename when exporting.
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laura_kent
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2 issues exist due to the inconsistent capture date/time on all my .MOV files. :
* Renaming video files on import using date & time in filenames
** Renaming video files using date OR date & time in filenames
Info: I'm using LR Classic CC (v. 8.3) and I have tested Canon 5D Mark II and IV, iphone 6s Plus and iphone X.
*Renaming video files on import using DATE+TIME
Replicate Scenario:
1. Import a video and rename upon import as:
Date (YYYY)-Date (MM)-Date (DD)_Hour.Minute.Second.MOV
Results:
1. Library shows inconsistent Date Digitized and Date Captured.
*Date Digitized= correct capture date and time; and agrees with import screen's.
*Capture time= import time for all video files.
2. Filename time is wrong for all video files.
3. Filename date is wrong for all video files taken after 5:59 pm or 6:59 CST.
4. Files are sorted correctly
Conclusion: **SOMEWHERE in LR there is another time that isn't shown and is off by 5-6 hours (at least in Central time zone), resulting in the file naming/re-naming problem. This is the time that is used for naming files.
** RENAMING existing video files with DATE+TIME:
Replicate Scenario:
1. Use any existing video file that has inconsistent date/time digitized and date/time values (such as the files imported above):
2. Rename them:
Date (YYYY)-Date (MM)-Date (DD)_Hour.Minute.Second...
3. They are renamed using the date/time value, which is the IMPORT date/time. Absolutely useless.
Conclusion: No idea.
I know the workaround. The workaround gets OLD. And there shouldn't BE one.
Is there a way to change the date?? My luck I could have fixed my own issue. I don't see anywhere to change the time zone... But it's always consistently 5-6 hours off, which is just weird.
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thibaud rebour
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4 months ago
Hello,
I have a number of images that do not have dates recorded in the capture date portion of the EXIF (IPTC Core). In Lightroom, by clicking sort by capture date, they appear at the beginning of all the others. If I look in the Metadata pane of Lightroom, I can see a capture date indicated that actually corresponds to the creation date visible in Bridge in the file property (but not IPTC Core, in which case the field is empty).
1. This date suits me well and I would like Lightroom to sort the images in gallery taking this date into account. Is-it possible to set up Lightroom to work this way?
2. If it is not possible, then I need to copy the creation date of the file to the IPTC Core creation date. I can do this in Bridge but it is not my workflow. Is it possible to do this fairly smoothly in Lightroom?
Best regards,
Thibaud
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