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Tue, Sep 27, 2016 3:14 PM

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Lightroom: Sort by capture time doesn't always work on 2015.7 / 6.7

Sort by Capture Time - normally, if I edit the metadata date/time of an image, it will then jump to the correct slot in the timeline. It would appear that in 6.7 this is broken. It's stopped working. I can edit the capture time, but then I have to force the sort - by choosing a different sort method, then going back to Sort by Capture Time.

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4 years ago

This should be fixed in the CC2015.8/6.8 Update. Give it a try and let us know. 
 

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Just gave it a try - worked a treat - as it should :)  Thx for fixing it guys and girls - was driving me mad. 

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Thanks for reporting back!
 

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Please remove the "problem solved" designation. It is definitely NOT solved.

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4 years ago

Ah, that explains the confusion I experienced the other day. The bug happens to me too (LR CC 2015.7 / OS X 10.11.5). Here's a screen recording: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21811200/lr-capture-time-order-bug.2016.09.27.mov

A slightly simpler way to restore the correct order is to click the Sort Direction button twice:

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Still doesn't work if using two different cameras. I use Nikon but my 2nd shooter uses Canon. Although all images are selected and both cameras date and time synced to world clock, it only sorts within each camera type, so it sorts all Nikon then all Canon but not mixed in together. Makes for way too much extra time reordering in post. Very very disappointed in LR for this.

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It appears to be working for me with two different cameras (and more).  Probably the best thing you can do is find the image transition point in your grid from one camera model to the next and then take a screenshot of the metadata showing the capture time for each file (Metadata Panel).  Please post them here. 

The thread on which you posted is about an issue that was fixed a couple of years ago so it is probably not related to what you are seeing. 
 

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Heather, in addition to posting screenshots, a couple of quick troubleshooting steps:

- Do the menu command View > View Options and select Capture Date for display under thumbnails in Grid view.  That can often make it easier to see what's going wrong.

- Triple-check that the photos were set to the same exact time. With LR's small grey fonts, it can be easy to overlook that one camera is AM and the other PM, or that one camera has been set for another time zone.  The capture dates under the thumbnails or in the Metadata panel should make this apparent. 

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Thanks for pointing this out, Paul.
We could reproduce the issue and we are looking into it.

Thanks,
Sunil

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Thanks for the reply John.  

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4 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom: Doesn't sort photos on macOS Sierra.

After updating to macOS Sierra sorting on the Lightroom stopped working if you make changes of the 'sort-by' parameter. For example, change Capture Time and position of the image won't be changed even if you sort the images by Capture Time.

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I've removed my comment about ExifTool. It's the separate issue. The Lightroom don't change all datetime parameters. So, I'm using ExifTool for that. That's not good.

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"The Lightroom don't change all datetime parameters. "

Dmitry, can you provide more details on which date/time fields aren't getting changed by the Edit Capture Time command? Thanks.

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Please follow the link "Lightroom: Doesn't sort photos on macOS Sierra" above. I've described it already. The Lightroom doesn't edit correspondently the following parameters: GPSTimeStamp and GPSDateStamp.

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I read that thread. If you mean that the photo doesn't properly sort after using Edit Capture Time, then I understand. But when you say Lightroom doesn't "change all datetime parameters" I thought you meant something else. (There are many metadata date/time fields that can be stored in a photo.)

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The Lightroom doesn't edit correspondently the following parametersGPSTimeStamp and GPSDateStamp.

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It's not clear to me that Edit Capture Time should change the GPS date/time.  But if you think it should, then it would be best to post a new feature request, since this topic is about the sorting bug with capture time, which is unrelated to GPS date/time.

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It's related. If you don't change GPS date/time then sorting order from the Lightroom will be broken in other applications, such as Apple Photos app.

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They're two separate issues.  The issue in this topic is about a recently introduced bug where Edit Capture Time correctly records the new date/time in the catalog but fails to update the ordering of Grid View -- it's a simple user-interface bug.

The second issue is whether Edit Capture Time should also modify the GPS date/time, for the benefit of other applications.  Edit Capture Time has never modified GPS date/time in past versions.  If you think LR should modify it, and you want to influence Adobe product developers, and you want other users to me-too your feature request to influence Adobe product developers, then I strongly recommend that you create a new topic.

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I know you're kidding!! This is part the whole LR capture time and date capture problem I've been complaining about for years that Adobe refuses to acknowledge and the LR Gurus refuse it too. Then I keep hearing it'll be fixed in next update and next update and next update. Now here we are with a whole new platform and it still isn't fixed. I for one would like to know what is going on. This is a big enough issue that I will not be renewing my subscription if isn't fix by renewal time. I know Adobe doesn't care about my small money after all I'm just one user, so why care.

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Use the following commands while Adobe developers prefer not to do their job:

exiftool -GPSDateStamp= -GPSTimeStamp= ./*.*

rm ./*_original

It will help.

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Where do I enter this please?

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In the Terminal on the folder with the images. Install exiftool first.

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I'm sorry but I don't have an exiftool.

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You should not have it to be able to install it.

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I'm totally lost. First I use Windows. What is a terminal and is exiftool some external software?

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Use cmd.exe then and modify commands to something like this:

exiftool -GPSDateStamp= -GPSTimeStamp= *.*

del *_original

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I understand what cmd.exe is but how will the cmd know what image(s) need to be corrected?

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*.* is the filemask.

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Time Out. Can you start from the beginning. I have not idea what you're talking about. You just start in telling me to run exiftool -GPSDateStamp= -GPSTimeStamp= ./*.*
 from the cmd.exe. is the /*.* suppose to represent a folder on a drive somewhere such as pictures/myfolder/*.*

Is there some sort of program I need to download and install? Does it have instructions and is ran inside Lr as plug-in or is ran as standalone and I have to point to a folder of files?

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This won't fix the problem with capture dates on your scans.  In your thread in the other forum, I provided a link to a simple workaround for that problem.

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Just read the previous answers carefully - they have all the answers.

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John, what thread in what forum. Please specify.

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