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Wed, Feb 26, 2020 12:56 AM

Lightroom: Rotated and flipped raw opens upside down in Photoshop

When a raw that's been rotated 270 degrees CW in the camera and flipped horizontal in LR is opened in Photoshop from LR, it opens upside down. To reproduce:

1. Turn off the option Catalog Settings > Metadata > Automatically Write Changes Into XMP.

2. Import a raw that's been rotated in the camera 270 degrees CW (90 degrees CCW). Make sure no .xmp file for the raw is present before you import. (The raw should have EXIF:Orientation = Rotate 270 CW.)

3. Do Photo > Flip Horizontal.

4. Do Photo > Edit In > Edit In Adobe Photoshop 2020. 

5. Observe the photo is upside down in Photoshop.

Tested in LR 9.2 / PS 21.1 / Mac OS 10.14.6.

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To be certain I understand:

The scene is:  A B C D clockwise from the top.
After rotating in camera:  it is B C D A clockwise from the top.
After flipping in Lightroom: it is B A D C clockwise from the top.
Open in Photoshop and it is: D A B C?

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The Flip Horizontal produces C B A D, not B A D C (clockwise from top).  Here's more detail:

Before in-camera rotation, the raw photo is A B C D;



The in-camera rotation (EXIF:Orientation = Rotate 270 CW) produces B C D A, which is how the raw appears in LR after importing:



After LR Photo > Flip Horizontal, the photo is C B A D:



Doing Photo > Edit In > Edit In Adobe Photoshop 2020, the photo in PS is A D C B:








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Do you see an XMP tag like this:

<tiff:Orientation>6</tiff:Orientation>

Bridge and probably other software use this to denote lossless rotation, the number shows which way its turned. I wonder if there is a conflict between an EXIF and a TIFF rotation tag?

You can test using Bridge with the Edit->Rotate commands.

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Version 9.3, an update to Lightroom Classic, went live on June 15, 2020 and contains a fix for this issue. Please install the update and respond back if it does not cure the issue for you. Thank you for your patience!

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The bug recipe in the first post no longer shows the bug. Tested in LR 9.3 / Mac OS 10.15.5. Thanks.