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53 Messages

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1.9K Points

Mon, Oct 5, 2015 2:38 PM

Lightroom: Restore features removed from Import in LR 6.2 / CC 2015.2

LIGHTROOM...PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE. I use each and every item most every day in my work flow.To be able to see how file name looks before it is brought in to LR. Is very important.As well as To see the destination Folders , how big a file is......Move is gone. You can only Add the photos at their existing location or Copy the photos to a new location.
Eject After Import is gone. You must now remember to eject memory cards using the operating system
Duplicate photos can’t be imported
Zoom is gone from the Import Loupe view.
Filename is now hidden under a tooltip.
Destination panel folders preview is gone, including the italic preview showing your chosen folder structure, the checkmarks to their right, and the volume information showing how much space was available on each drive.
Thumbnail filtering by Destination folder is gone.
Total file size is gone from the bottom left corner.
The filename preview (when renaming) is gone. THANKS!!!

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6 Messages

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220 Points

6 y ago

Please bring back the old import, like it was before and make it optional.
With the background usability checks already in lightroom you will see how much user will use the new one and could optimize the import again.
The old import, with some presets, was a non brainier for me and every time I must do a change, like choose a new path, the clean tree view was a big help.
Also the preview of rename is essential. Now one like to change file names in the dark :(
The new import dialog may be a good idea for first time lightroom users but is a big step backwards for all the professionals and should be a optional feature!

6 Messages

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220 Points

6 y ago

Please bring back the old import, like it was before and make it optional.
With the background usability checks already in lightroom you will see how much user will use the new one and could optimize the import again.
The old import, with some presets, was a non brainier for me and every time I must do a change, like choose a new path, the clean tree view was a big help.
Also the preview of rename is essential. Now one like to change file names in the dark :(
The new import dialog may be a good idea for first time lightroom users but is a big step backwards for all the professionals and should be a optional feature!

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122 Points

6 y ago

Can you please make the new import dialog optional or something like that? It really doesn’t work for me.
I just quickly want a list of folders and select the right one and get to work on my images.
I’m now either waiting forever for unneeded previews of the 27000+ files that are already in Lightroom, or if I just want to select a single folder I get a real small dialog with a minimal scrollbar to scroll through my library of currenty 600 folders ... I’m working on a 27 inch screen (at a resolution of 2560×1440), and if I select import -> drive, the dialog for selecting subfolders uses about 1/10 of my screen, on the left top, and the scrollbar is really small. It makes selecting the right folder quite problematic, and 9/10 of my screen is not being used.

The missing 'eject after import option' means an unnecessary extra step to the finder (MacOS X) when I'm importing from multiple cards after a shoot.

What’s wrong with the quick and easy MacOS X (in my case) dialogs which I use all day in the Adobe other software?
Please give me as a professional a quick and dirty way to import my files. I know what I’m doing ...I do it all day.
Thank you!

53 Messages

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926 Points

Yes. Before it was clear which photos are already imported. Now only if mouse is over. I never have select all ticked because of old files on card (which I never delete until full format in camera).

3 Messages

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84 Points

6 y ago

First time and big time disappointment with LR. It's indeed not an elements product but the feature complete awesomeness I always loved and paid for (standalone version). I dont see any benefit in the recent "simplification" of import. I made it much worse. Wont update to 6.2 and really hope that Adobe will listed to it's longtime customers.

2 Messages

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172 Points

6 y ago

Please bring back the facility in the import dialogue to see the folder tree that is being imported.

Selecting/Unselecting folders in the tree view was a very useful means for being able to only import images taken on certain dates. Especially useful if you've forgotten to wipe your memory card between shoots.

Preview of filename was also very useful, and helped avoid unwanted mistakes on import.

Thank you!

4 Messages

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102 Points

6 y ago

I must echo David Jones' post dated 05 OCT. I have a database currently with 107,509 images and they all need to be in the same catalog. I use the very powerful TTG web publisher to maintain a complex website with LR.

I frequently travel and will often have several thousand new images from a trip and will often pre-sort them on my hard drive to group them into more manageable blocks. The missing import options have certainly and negatively impacted my work flow. First thing is dis was unclick the "Add Photos" and still took me a while to find the backup "negative" functionality now labeled "make second copy to"

Overall, even with the GPU working, different thread, LR CC is no faster than 5.xx. Possibly slower, particularly with my rather large catalog.

6 Messages

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260 Points

6 y ago

Adobe support pointed me to the following file:

http://prodesigntools.com/swupdl/upda...

This should restore to the previous version (with the CC app you can only go back to 2015.0, not 2015.1).

53 Messages

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926 Points

6 y ago

I already reverted Lr to 2015.1 - I love it.

What was decision trigger to revert:
If "select all" is unticked there is no visual cue what images are fresh or already imported. And I hate changes that bring nothing but adaptation to it (for the sake of it).

Longer explanation:
When I import photos from media card I do not delete images or format card until I do proper backup of them. I do not backup per every image I import. So I leave all images on media card until I do backup them properly. I may make 1 or 100's of images per day, so it takes various time to fill the card or to have time to backup.

In the mean time I may already delete all rejected photos from SSD. That means next time importer would suggest to re-import thoose images.

Reason nr.1 why I untick "select all" feature: I do not want some rejected picture from past days (upper on the list) will import in the other days library. I just select new ones and than tick them to be imported.

Reason nr.2 why I untick "select all" feature: I do several imports because I rename images per content, not per day or session. I want fallback bullet proof way of finding imeges even no lightroom or smart software is near :)

And new import is clueless about what is imported unless "select all" is ticked. Before imported images were rendered darker even if unselected all.

There is half of image height space between picture rows but no name under them? Waiting half a second per image for tooltip to display and than processing the name in our brain are not more visual for me (against having all data infront of the eyes and consume split of a second to find proper item). Neither is faster than before.

2015.2 brought me headacke and unconfortness this morning when I first opened Lr in front of my customer needed some service at rush, as I was puzzled and staring at the screen. After it took me several hours crawling ther web, dealing with the change seeking solution and finaly reinstalling Lightrroom to 2015.1.

2015.2 brought dehaze as local adjustment. Great. As this way of feature implementation was already logical at it's lounch. But it is not essential to have it.

Why go through all the personal adaptation and solution seeking and workflow workarounds if that brings us only minor non-essential feature update. It's like Adobe gave us candy and hoped we will overlook the other change from which we clearly do not benefit, regardless of perspective or user experience we look at it.

I wonder if anyone can find a sole benefit from this change. And I hope this will be "de-vamped" back.

133 Messages

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2.5K Points

6 y ago

instead of making (for example) face recognition better what is a focus.. a new IMPORT DIALOG that has features REMOVED?!!

and you say "What's left isn't bad to look at".

well i rather have the old import dialog then this new reduced nonsense "add photos" screen for people who don ́t know what a drive letter is.

it ́s not even "streamlining the interface" like the PR guys wanna make us believe. it is an extra step in the workflow.

that you can disable the "add photos" screen is only a small help. wasted developing time.....

adobe should focus on polishing existing features. not introducing more beta features.

i mean.... google had better face recognition 5 years ago.

or take GPU support .. much hyped and pretty useless in LR.

i have an intel i7 system with a geforce 980 GTX and GPU support does NOTHING for me.

i have disabled it because i have lags in the grid view when it is active.

60% of the advices in this forum sound like this "disable GPU support". ....

133 Messages

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2.5K Points

6 y ago

instead of making (for example) face recognition better what is a focus.. a new IMPORT DIALOG that has features REMOVED?!!

well i rather have the old import dialog then this new reduced nonsense "add photos" screen for people who don ́t know what a drive letter is.

it ́s not even "streamlining the interface" like the PR guys wanna make us believe. it is an extra step in the workflow.

that you can disable the "add photos" screen is only a small help. wasted developing time.....

adobe should focus on polishing existing features. not introducing more beta features.

i mean.... google had better face recognition 5 years ago.

or take GPU support .. much hyped and pretty useless in LR.

i have an intel i7 system with a geforce 980 GTX and GPU support does NOTHING for me.

i have disabled it because i have lags in the grid view when it is active.

60% of the advices in this forum sound like this "disable GPU support". ....

53 Messages

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926 Points

I have i7 with 6 core, 770GTX, 32GB/2133 RAM, 3xSSD (120+240+960GB) and Lr is slow and laggy. I hate the most waiting image to focus when clicked on, on display 2 - it needs 5-10 seconds - on display 1 it needs "only" 1-2 seconds, and we are talking images currently in development, so all previews are rendered.

16 Messages

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358 Points

6 y ago

You want to help the people too lazy to learn a powerful and sophisticated tool, fine, ADD that option, but don't take away features we use and depend on! I pay real money for the use of LR. As far as I am concerned Adobe is breaking an implied contract. I now pay for less and spend more time doing the same job. Incredible.

53 Messages

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926 Points

WELL SAID, endeed! We are paying that we struggle with software, instead Adobe would save us from stress in return we are paying them.

2 Messages

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90 Points

6 y ago

Stop taking things away and calling it an "upgrade"! Bring back destination folder preview!

2 Messages

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70 Points

6 y ago

Please add the import presets back to the import, I don't want to check every single setting just to make sure the import is doing the right thing. Before it was just a quick glance to check that the right import preset is selected.

6 Messages

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176 Points

6 y ago

Oops, this one was not thought out sufficiently guys. As a major part of my workflow to provide photos for a professional soccer team, I use this feature to ENSURE things (what the renamed files will be, where they are being stored) are CORRECT before proceeding to import for final editing.

While I have no issue with Adobe attempting to make things simpler for the more novice user, I do take GREAT EXCEPTION to implementing changes that degrade the product being used extensively by many working photographers. PLEASE provide a switch to allow the experienced users to regain this loss functionality QUICKLY.

149 Messages

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3.3K Points

6 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom CC 2015.2: Import - Move is no longer an option.

I frequently use the "Move" action during import as part of my workflow. This is missing from the new Import actions.

Move is much more efficient and safer than copy as it only changes directory entries and does not have to to a bit for bit copy of each image.

Please reinstate this option.