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3.1K Points

Tue, Apr 26, 2011 6:26 PM

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Lightroom: Please add face recognition to Lightroom (ability to specify region metadata)

Do you plan to implement a face recognition defined by keywords in Lightroom someday ?

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136 Messages

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4.7K Points

8 years ago

Note that it is important for the algorithm to be able to handle People with exact same name but who are not the same persons.
I have 2 friends with the exact same name and only picasa seem to handle it

14 Messages

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570 Points

8 years ago

It has been since Version 2 that I've suggested adding facial recognition tags. Some responders said this "is not a professional need" but I strongly disagree. PLEASE include this in the coming LightRoom 5 release.

10 Messages

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262 Points

8 years ago

I don't think that face recognition is very important at all. Maybe because I don't have that many faces that need recognising! The process of entering keywords in LR suits me fine and I don't think I would want processing power to be wasted trying to recognise people in my photos when I can provide their names in a jiffy.

5 Messages

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106 Points

8 years ago

I would use face recognition to identify faces in very old photographs dating back to 1870. I am restoring historical photographs and only a few people are identified and it would help to know to which family the unidentified are connected with. Processing power would only be used on request and not slow down most processing.

71 Messages

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1.1K Points

8 years ago

In my opinion face recognition is one of the less needed features in LR.

37 Messages

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656 Points

8 years ago

I don't think face recognition is necessary. I would probably use a function which tags all images with faces in it.

But I would prefer if AutoTone would produce better results or could be configured to my liking. This and some other wishes from this forum should cause much less work that detection of persons.

136 Messages

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4.7K Points

It is very hazardous to say that developing one functionality is faster than another one.
Actually if they are using face detection API it may even be just a question of UI, which could be much simpler than tuning the Auto tone to give better results in all conditions.
LR is both a DAM and raw developer, so both aspect need to be enhanced. If we leave the whole DAM aspect a side then it may be better to just use Camera raw converter and bridge.
Regards

23 Messages

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758 Points

8 years ago

I don't think I would use facial recognition in Lightroom and not sure how others using it for professional use would use it either.
I can see how someone using Lightroom for keeping track of family pictures or something could use it.

A professionals I would assume that you are tagging your images with the names of the models or clients at the time and may or not photograph them again, and if you do your workflow would likely have you tagging them appropriately at that time too. So when would you use it really?

What might be useful is a pattern or shape algorithm that you could select say a "Bridge" in an image and then it use that as criteria for going out and finding other bridge pictures in a 'batch background mode' and doing the same for other things like wolves, birds, bears, towers, or other "General" objects.. without getting down to this bird vs. that bird detail.

Christopher

2 Messages

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74 Points

Having a library of 60,000+ photos that are being brought into Lightroom in bulk, it would be beneficial to have facial recognition. New users with a large library do not have the luxury of adding tags as photos are taken as that point has already passed.

So whether a professional or an amateur with an extensive collection of photos, making the process of adding and quickly tagging photos easier would seem to be a positive selling point. Especially since most other software including i-Photo, Picasa, Aperture, etc. have this feature. Even Photoshop Elements has a rudimentary facial recognition feature.

136 Messages

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4.7K Points

Taking wedding photos. That is a huge help, unless you know every guest each time you do the job. :)

136 Messages

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4.7K Points

There is already feature request for shape/color detection algorithm, you can go and vote for it : http://feedback.photoshop.com/photosh...
It is already implemented in photoshop element, still waiting for LR to get it :(

being ironic : if you do your keywording properly you shouldn't need that function either , should you ;)

62 Messages

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1K Points

I'm not here to shoot down the request. If it is implemented in the end, then it's good. I'm just here in hope that someone can educate me what is the benefit of Facial recognition besides "oh, I want to pull out all the photo of uncle Bob".
I do wedding. Do you guys keep track of all the guess name? So the couple will come to you and say "We want the photo of us and Uncle bob". And during the ceremony you keep track of all the guest names so you can tag it in later?
Regional tagging is understandable. I can see the advantages of it.

418 Messages

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7.8K Points

I also do weddings and tagging guests would never be something that would be time efficient, even if it meant training the software. What would be USEFUL is during the pruning process to have LR know >where< the faces are but not >who< they are. I don't care >who< they are.

So what's useful for that? Imagine a 27" monitor (I have one) that could show you a grid of all of the faces in a group photo. You could instantly see both the composition (wide shot on right) and grid of faces on the left and make very, very quick judgements about sharpness and facial expressions. So much time is burned zooming in and panning around each shot, remembering which one is better than the rest...

Also, imagine if Lightroom's Auto Exposure could use the faces to do intelligent image exposure adjustments... Currently, a brighter background or a spotlight totally throws the immature software algorithm for a loop. 1% of the time these auto-correction features work. Recognizing faces and treating them correctly in the develop mode (auto correction) plus saving time on showing you faces in Library mode while you cull would save HOURS and HOURS per job.

That's why Adobe should work on this. Not for searching your catalog. For speed and intelligently assisting me.

5 Messages

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106 Points

I am trying to identify the names in family history photographs that are 120 -90 years old. We have some names and the ability to check for family characteristics would help

136 Messages

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4.7K Points

It does not need learning. All faces are classified/grouped by degree of similarity. So you just need to type the name once for each group of faces. It can be much more efficient than a human.

9 Messages

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190 Points

It increases the long-term value of every picture you take if you can identify things that may be forgotten in the future.

In this picture, who are the 2 players making the tackle? You can't see the names or numbers on their jerseys. But maybe one of those players is gonna get picked in the first round of the draft this year, making this picture desirable to news outlets. There are tons of situations, both professional and personal, in which image region metadata makes a picture more valuable (either financially or emotionally). Just because it doesn't benefit the kind of work you do doesn't mean it isn't valuable to other professional photographers.

http://www.indystar.com/picture-galle...

12 Messages

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280 Points

8 years ago

Unfortunately, the "editors" of this forum have combined two feature requests into one thread that are entirely different.

One is facial recognition across different photos.

The other is the ability to specify region metadata to tag regions of photos with metadata, like photo tagging on Facebook. This is not just for face tagging, though! I want to tag buildings, national monuments, bridges, and so on.

I and others submitted the latter request, which I still believe to be a prerequisite to the former. Adobe was a direct party to the regional metadata tagging standard, but as far as I can tell have not implemented it in any of their products. That's what I want!

All the best,
- Rick

4.5K Messages

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76.3K Points

Rumor has it Lr5 will have face recognition (certainly Adobe has been working on it, since there are tell-tale signs in the code). Whether they also will expose general regional tagging, - dunno...

Disclaimer: it could be face recognition won't be done for Lr5 final either, I really don't know... (so don't spread rumor ;-})

418 Messages

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7.8K Points

I'm hoping so much it's "face recognition" and not full blown "facial feature discrimination recognition".... I don't care if the person is Chris or Steve or Mary. I just want LR to know where the faces are and 1) zoom in intelligently on each face for proper analysis and 2) maybe auto corrections with care for skin tones in the image. Something intelligent. It's about time.

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60 Points

Region tagging and face recognition are both in Photoshop Elements. PSE's management of tags is lacking as I've written about elsewhere in this forum but the region tagging works pretty well and recognition too. It's inexplicable to me that LR hasn't done this yet. Time to beef of the LR development effort and provide a smooth path from PSE if Adobe wants to grow its customer base.

12 Messages

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280 Points

8 years ago

By the way, what is a "Promoted Response" in this forum?

4.5K Messages

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76.3K Points

One with 3 or more stars, I think.

12 Messages

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280 Points

8 years ago

Please separate the requests into two different ones: (1) Facial recognition; (2) region metadata tagging.

136 Messages

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4.7K Points

It is already done

136 Messages

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4.7K Points

48 Messages

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1.3K Points

8 years ago

I agree. We need facial recognition. I have hundreds of family photos many of which have no tags. If you don't want to put facial recognition into LR then give us some way to import tags from an application that already has facial recognition.

5 Messages

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106 Points

8 years ago

I agree with Kent

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80 Points

7 years ago

hey Adobe, could you please provide us out of the box facial recognition, this is a must have feature for LR.

4.5K Messages

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76.3K Points

7 years ago

Face recognition will probably be in Lr6 (Adobe has definitely been working on it) - but don't quote me ;-}.

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86 Points

7 years ago

I will definitely never purchase an upgrade if will not include facial recognition

Stefano