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Lightroom: More than 12 Hours to Backup catalog with 58K images
In W7 64bit with 32GB & i-7 2700K, LR4.1, LR catalog of 58K images stored on separate internal SATA3 2TB drive with about 380GB free, I started weekly catalog backup up 7/29 @ 9:10pm with no other tasks running except usual background stuff. 12 hours later job was only approximately 2/3's done (comparing current backup size vs. last week's size). Checking Process Explorer I find LR is only using a constant 12.5% of the available power! Shouldn't things go faster? Shouldn't LR be smart enough to grab more resources? What might cause this kind of unacceptable slowness?
Just copying the complete catalog manually is so much faster that I wonder if that isn't the better option? For reconstruction purposes, what extras value does using the LR backup get me that I don't get via the manual route?
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Just copying the complete catalog manually is so much faster that I wonder if that isn't the better option? For reconstruction purposes, what extras value does using the LR backup get me that I don't get via the manual route?
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lee_jay_fingersh
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bruce_cyr
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However, the newest thing is an Intel 60GB SSD rigged for disk caching since my boot drive occupies 180GB. I wonder if the SSD could be interfering? I'll disable it and give things a try. If that doesn't help, then the culprit smells like the software.
BTW, what about the question of simple copy vs. LR backup? Is there any benefit to using LR backup vs. a simple backup copy?
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bruce_cyr
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The 2700K has 4 cores and each is hyperthreaded (I think), so that's 8 virtual cores. That means LR is only using 1 virtual core (1/8 = 12.5%). But maybe that's all it takes to completely flood the SATA channel, that is, more processor power can't push any more data down the SATA channel if its already full. Still the question is why did 100% of the job get done last week in 8 hours, while this week after 12 hours only about 70% of the job was done?
I've canned nearly 4K images so far, and I'll try again tonight with the SSD disabled to see how it goes.
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lee_jay_fingersh
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bruce_cyr
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Yah, that's it. Last night after deleting about 4K more images and correcting a minor mismatch between my catalog structure and actual file layout, I completed an LR catalog backup in less than 2 hours. I don't know how much of the difference in completion time is due to the file anomaly vs. the amount of free space on my hard-drive, although I suspect the latter. In any case, I'm back to my normal backup times. Note that the SSD had no apparent role in the problem.
Still, only a "couple of minutes to backup" 100K images is extraordinary by my standards. Are you adding many new images between each backup? Or is your catalog relatively static? If you're not adding much, maybe the backup function is using essentially incremental backup. In my case, I'm adding at least a thousand images each week, including both new captures and PS renditions of existing captures, plus I'm deleting old images to keep my total space down, which means basically LR backup has to redo the whole thing each time I backup the catalog.
Also, how big is your drive space? Are you RAIDing? I'm going to move up to a 3TB drive -- 4TB is not cost-effective yet, and RAID is too gimmicky for me.
Basically I haven't found much info on how LR catalog backup works or what factors affect its operational speed, and apparently no one else has a handle on it either. The alternative, of course, is regular incremental backup from the system level. My images and catalog are all and exclusively on a separate drive, which makes this feasible.
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john_spacey
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daniel_santillo
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My catalogue with 70,000 photos backs up in around a minute.
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bruce_cyr
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Dan,
Thanks, but I've never had a problem with SATA cables. OTOH, USB ports in Windows are a constant source of frustration -- they're here, they're gone, I never know when one is going to go into hiding. This has been constant over 3 generations of Windows, half a dozen mobos, and diligent updating of drivers.
Bruce
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