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1.6K Points

Fri, May 30, 2014 2:11 PM

Under consideration

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Lightroom Mobile: I would like to synchronize over LAN/Cable instead of internet

LR mobile sync is extremely slow. Giving me an option to sync locally would be excellent. And I'm sure very useful for professionals travelling in areas where internet is limited/non-existent or expensive and time consuming.Come on Adobe. If this is designed for professionals this slow sync and data usage issues on global data roaming....? It simply isn't practical. The product as is can't be recommended as is.(please also add keywords, ratings, labels to app functionality)Thanks!

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60 Points

2 years ago

Hi All,

I think I've found a bit of a workaround for Mac/iPhone, although it's not a perfect solution.

* Plug your iPhone into iTunes.
* Go to File Sharing.
* Click on Lightroom CC Mobile (MLCC).
* Copy the catalogue file onto your desktop (581964c.. etc).

* Open Lightroom CC on your Desktop (DLCC).
* Open DLCC preferences, then click local storage.
* Make sure "store a copy of all originals at specifies location" is selected.
* Then choose a location for the originals to be stored, in my case, I have this folder stored on my RAID.
* Click done and navigate to this folder.
* Inside it, you'll see the same file structure as the MLCC folder that you just saved to your desktop.
* Copy the contents of the 'Originals' folder from the MLCC folder and paste it into the 'Originals' folder that you created for DLCC.
* Now import this DLCC originals folder into Lightroom Classic CC, making sure not to apply any presets on import.
* Lightroom Classic CC will now only download the adjustments from the Adobe cloud and save them as 'virtual copies'.

It's not a perfect solution but, in a pinch, it should save you some time..

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94 Points

I tried this and it didn't work for me. The files in the MLCC "Originals" folder download from iTunes have a long string of letters and digits added to the file names. When I add those files to DLCC they are synced to the Cloud as new files since the file names don't match the original file names.

As a result, I wind up with two copies of the images:

1) The original photos taken by the MLCC app, and
2) the photos with the extra letters/digits in their file name.

I'm using Mobile version 4.0 and LR CC 2019. It's possible that something changed in these newer versions to stop the workaround from functioning correctly.

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3.5K Points

2 years ago

+1 for WLAN sync. Would love to be able to sync iPad to MacBook when I’m off grid.

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164 Points

2 years ago

Actually, I am on vacation and have found a very simple workflow for using my iPad and LR CC Mobile with no internet access. I upload my photos to my iPad using the SD card reader to Camera Roll. I work on the photos in LR CC Mobile, PS Express, Snapseed, etc. and save them back to Camera Roll. I then back up using a WD Passport wireless drive. I check to make sure I have all photos on the drive using the My Cloud App and then copy all my RAW shots to the Passport which has an SD card slot. I format my card and I am good to go for the next day. Short, sweet and simple and no internet needed.

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62 Points

But can you copy the raw files with all the edits? Or only the finished JPGs?

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540 Points

2 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled We need to be able to transfer our edited photos from an iPad to a desktop via a ....

This is getting out of hand. Almost every photographer I know would rather edit on the road with an iPad. Especially since it LR mobile runs significantly faster than classic on a desktop. But transferring all of our edited files back to our desktop at home via wifi is absurd. Especially as MP count goes up on cameras. I shot 200 photos today, and it has taken 5 hours to upload half of them to the adobe server to transfer to classic. And I have the fastest internet speed my provider has available. This is so stupid. The iPad is sitting in front of the computer and I can't simply connect them so my time is wasted. FIX THIS ADOBE!!!!!

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164 Points

We also take a lot of raw photos while traveling (often with no internet available) and would like to both cull and make initial edits using the iPad Pro, and then transfer the original culled raw plus edits to a desktop once home. We use Lightroom Classic at home and do not otherwise need to use the CC for our photography needs. All we need is the ability to use a local LAN. In our case airdrop would be sufficient. We do use the CC library for InDesign and PS work, etc. but transferring large numbers of RAW photos wirelessly makes for a poorly functioning yet expensive workflow. 

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256 Points

2 years ago

Another vote for what is nothing more than a PITA

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786 Points

a year ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Idea: USB syncing (and Wi-Fi syncing) between devices.

The idea is pretty simple, allow devices to sync when plugged in over USB. Open up Lightroom on the mobile device and on desktop, and have an option to press for USB syncing, so that originals and smart previews including edits and album structure can be synced over.

Eg: Raws I imported onto my iPad Pro should sync to my desktop over USB. And vice versa.

The devices can still sync to the cloud, but it will save time and data usage of having to re-download images that you already have stored locally.


And if possible, the same but Wi-Fi syncing, desktop and device or two devices connected direct over Wi-Fi (one in hot spot mode?).

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1.4K Points

I like the idea from a practicality standpoint. Unfortunately, I don't think this is currently possible on iOS, but this year's new Apple OS releases may address that. iOS/iPadOS devices will now appear in/sync via the Finder (rather than iTunes), but I'm still not sure if it would be possible. WiFi may be more universally useable.

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3.5K Points

I can sync files directly from device to device (both windows and Mac laptops, my QNAP web server, etc.) using Resilio Sync over WLAN now, so I don't think it's a current iOS limitation.

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1.4K Points

Oh, WiFi sync has been possible for a long time - I was talking about USB sync between Mac and iOS not currently being possible in a way that would be useful for Lightroom users.

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3.5K Points

Oh yeah, I think you are right on that front.

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16.2K Points

I honestly don’t think it’s a technical limitation but rather:
1) Totally not the priority. Many bugs ares still not fixed, so this kind of request, if on the roadmap, will be very low in the pile
2) Totally out of scope as it would go against Adobe market to sell more cloud storage.

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1.4K Points

I don't think there's ever been any doubt that it's a business decision, rather than technical. We're just hoping that, if we make enough noise for long enough, Adobe will realize that they're forcing loyal customers to jump through ridiculous hoops, and making those customers happy might be worthwhile.

The switch to subscription has worked out very, very well for Adobe's bottom line. I honestly think that the Photography Plan is a pretty good deal, considering that I get Lightroom (in several flavors), Photoshop, 20GB of cloud storage (most of which goes unused because of the miracle that is Smart Previews), and website hosting for one small monthly fee. Even with all that, though, there is a limit on how much aggravation even loyal customers will endure, and ignoring those areas where the current cloud sync model falls flat on its face is a pretty major aggravation for a company to ignore.

I don't have any major complaints with the current system in my day-to-day use, but anything that involves travel is a major pain point, and it's astonishing that Adobe has not figured out a solution. I'm hoping that the coming of iPadOS (and similar enhancements to iOS) will spur some fresh thinking at Adobe.

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16.2K Points

I hope you're right, but... have keywords sync been implemented yet ? Stacks ? Pano/HDR? Are the recent updates the most requested features or even bug fixes ?

Not sure Adobe cares about photographers anymore. Casual cell phone users wanting cloud storage is, imho, Adobe's new target.

They're making a shitload of money and that's the only thinkg that counts. And who could blame them? But luckily competition is working hard to bring good software. Let's hope this pressure wil help.

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1.4K Points

I choose to live in hope.

Just like everyone these days, Adobe is chasing the mass market, but I honestly don't see them making major inroads on the consumer side - the offerings from Google/Apple/Insta are good enough that I really can't see why that market would pay anything for Adobe's cloud (Lightroom, not Classic) photography plan. The average consumer is just never going to bother with raw on their phone, and without that, why would anybody bother with any version of Lightroom?

So, long run, I think that professionals are Adobe's core business, and at some point, they'll start providing the features that professionals keep asking for. Nobody else has the end-to-end solution that Adobe has, even with the annoyances, but that may not hold forever. If Capture One came up with an iPad version and syncing (whether cloud or local), it would certainly make things more interesting.

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4.4K Points

I sometimes receive user surveys from up and coming LR competitors. Judging from the content of those surveys it is clear they will be nipping at Adobe's heels soon enough.

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16.2K Points

Coudn’t agree more ;-)

But is living in hope acceptable when you pay this much for a software (in euro, it’s like buying a soft every year!) ?

Agreed, LR is for, at least enthusiastic photographs. But are the latest dates answers to the needs of this target? Lightroom “non-classic”? Tutorials? Not sure this is an answer to “Classic” users. Users who were happy with a perpetual license and who are expecting more from a subscription (because more expensive)

Also agreed:
“Nobody else has the end-to-end solution that Adobe has, even with the annoyances, but that may not hold forever. If Capture One came up with an iPad version and syncing (whether cloud or local), it would certainly make things more interesting.”
To be honest, that’s (and laziness) is what keeps enthusiasts and pros with LR. IMHO, there are too many bugs, limitations and restrictions for smooth and pro workflow integration. The moment a good pro workflow will be available, people will massively switch to that one ;-)

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16.2K Points

@avpman, could you elaborate?

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4.4K Points

ON1, and Capture one are the biggies. They have a ways to go toward an end to end solution. Check 'em out and decide for yourself. I'm still holding out for Adobe to clean up LR but it seems with every release there are more and more problems.

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22.5K Points

with every release there are more and more problems
That last comment is nonsense.

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16.2K Points

Thanks avpman! I wasn’t sure about your point but I totally agree. I’ll definitely check them out when my subscription expires. I hope they’ll have a good mobile workflow, because that’s literally the only thing holding me back.

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1.4K Points

That's the problem - nobody else has anything resembling a mobile workflow. On1 and Capture One have mobile apps, but they don't do any processing on mobile - On1's was just a gallery (the app seems to have disappeared, actually), and Capture Pilot is a gallery/rating app with a remote camera control option.

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13.4K Points

a year ago

Let's wait for IOS 13.0 and we will see what we will do with our iPad because it is expected that we can connect an external disk to our tablets .... Because, really, via the Internet it is not viable in many languages. places in the world called the Earth!


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404 Points

any experience?

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16.2K Points

No update regarding this request despite iOS 13. And frankly, you can forget about it. It's not even under consideration. Adobe is focussing on the cloud; Classic is as good as dead, don't expect new big features, imho. You'll get some bug fixes and cosmetic improvements, but nothing more, I'm afraid.

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202 Points

a year ago

My download speed is 40mbps.
My upload speed is 7mbps

It is not the fastest, but it is the second fastest provider in my country. And I cannot use LR Mobile, because it wont sync raw files. I left it on for 2 days nonstop. didn't went over 3%...

So not only that the sync is slow for some.
It is also non existent for others. 
It was like it tryed and then gave up.

I upload and download large files to services as wetransfer, myairbridge on regular basis and those work. I don't know why LR wouldn't then?

I had to start with all the edits and selections over. 
Now I am looking for solution while paying for 1tb plan which i cant use.

take my vote.

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60 Points

a year ago

The Mobile local sync technique you are discussing good but it's not the best way to use the technology. Because many times you might get faced Wii Error Code 51330 and it's really a problem for your device. The problem's solution is really so much time-consuming in nature.

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16.2K Points

a year ago

Just to add some water to the mill:

I've just returned from a week of shooting with about 60 Go of photos stored on my iPad. I had no or very limited access to internet, so syncing on the field was not an option.

Now the only way I have to transfer those images on my computer, is by letting my iPad sync, which despite a good connection is still a slow process. Firstly, 60 Go is a significant amount of data. Secondly, I have the feeling my bandwidth is not the bottleneck, but the servers.

Furthermore, those 60 Go have to be synced in 3 or more times. Getting a larger plan is not an option, because: 1) I would only use it a couple of times a year 2) there is no monthly option, only yearly 3) LR is already expensive enough like this 4) Getting a bigger plan would only help the syncing process, but not speed up the process and 5) would be wasted when connection is poor, which is frequently the case.

Lastly, I end up having to delete those images from the cloud, preventing me from keeping the 1:1 images I had. I have to re-sync smart previews back to my iPad. So we end up with two, slow and long, destructive process.

I hope Adobe will start to take customer's feedback into account ;-)

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13.4K Points

a year ago

For the users of iPad and computers Apple where AirDrop works:

A thing to be known if they load memory of photographs since a card on an iPad, these pictures are visible in application PHOTOGRAPH, then, if they do not have automate fact to import everything in LR, alone those that they will have wanted to treat, will have ètè transferred in LR and have to be synchronized via the Internet process defined by Adobe.

I have just tried since my iPad (PHOTOGRAPH application) towards my iMac. by using AirDrop, the raw raw was transferred in some seconds (15 pictures of 17.5 MB about, of course possible developments made in LR on my iPad are lost.

I know, it is a work-around, but this can help!



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404 Points

Well, loosing improvements or ratings is useless. For the pure backup purpose I could just use multiple cards...

Shame, Adobe is not solving this problem. Cloud is not an option for travel photography. Just trying to sync 3000 images (started 4 days ago). Just hope there is any other company to develop a reasonable solution for this problem.

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294 Points

I hope too. The first apply that will allow post-processing and RAW (DNG) export on IPAD will be immediately the big winner ! By By Adobe ;-)

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404 Points

Even the pure rating process would be a major improvement...

On location / while travelling:
1) take pictures
2) load them on the iPad
3) rate pictures

Back home:
4) load images via WiFi or (even preferred!) via cable on my computer
5) import or sync rating info, possibly as exif files in ANY editing software

Totally agree, won‘t stick to Adobe if someone else eventually supports a mobile workflow.

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404 Points

PS: let‘s see what the upcoming ON1 Photo Sync will provide. Sounds promising already...
https://www.on1.com/products/photo-ra...

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1.6K Points

That’s looks great. I’ll be giving on1 a go for sure. Awesome!

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294 Points

Heeeeey !!!!!

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16.2K Points

"We put the photographer first, and this means customers have complete control over every aspect of their photography, including having a say in the products we develop. Photographers also control how they purchase ON1 software, where they store photos, their choice in capture devices, as well as their choice in cloud storage provider. Having total control over photographic and video editing style is also central to using ON1 products."

Haha, they know Adob's product all too well :D :D :D
I'm looking forward to ginving it a try!!

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268 Points

@chrisb Thanks for the tip about ON1. I will keep and eye to see if the sync process will be easier because Lightroom Mobile is dreadful and doesn't work for me at all. We are in April and I am still waiting for my photo-shoots from August 2019 to fully sync..

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120 Points

a year ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Transferring RAWs & Edits from iPad to Lightroom Classic locally.

Hi all, first post, I've found these forums really helpful!

Long-time Lightroom Classic user, I'm new to the CC ecosystem and trying to find my workflow.
Is there a way to upload RAW files to my iPad Pro after a shoot, edit them and transfer the edited RAWS back into LR Classic when I get home without having to upload originals to the cloud and wait for them all to re-download into Classic?

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3.5K Points

Not with Adobe products, unfortunately.

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1.4K Points

Unfortunately, no - four years of requesting the feature, and it has somehow not made it onto an Adobe roadmap. Somehow, they apparently still seem to think that forcing customers to sync ever-growing raw files to their cloud service from wherever they are in the world is critical to Adobe's financial health.

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4.8K Points

I'm doing a similar thing with the following workaround:
when I shoot abroad I import the RAW files via cardreader to my iPad and do first viewing and editing (or even distributing of single edited pictures). All with LR synchronization disabled (or even having no internet connection abroad).
When I come home I copy the RAW files via cardreader to my PC and import them into Lightroom where I create a collection which I synchronize with LR (only the smart previews without edits get uploaded).
Then I enable the synchronization of my iPad and get virtual copies of all the pictures.
With the aid of the plugin Syncomatic (StackSync, Develop settings) I can synchronize them. So all the changes I made on the iPad are transferred to the locally stored RAWs.
Finally I can delete the copies imported from the iPad into my catalog.

This sounds very complex and not all straight forward. But if you have a shooting with many RAW files which would burst all your cloud limits this is the best way which works for me.

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320 Points

This is very interesting. I tried it immediately – and it works (at least for a few images)! For the first time since years this seems to be a good workaround. Thank you very much for sharing!

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13.4K Points

Finalement, il ne manque dans LR qu'une commande permettant de ne pas engager la copie des originaux vers le Cloud si on procède selon le schéma de @Arnold Bartel car la création des copies virtuelles se fait dès le démarrage de la synchronisation sur l'iPad, ça permettrait d'éviter beaucoup de transfert de données via Internet.

Finally, an order allowing is missing in LR only not to hire the copy of the original towards Cloud if they go about things according to the schema of @Arnold Bartel because the creation of the virtual copies is made from the kickoff of synchronization on the iPad, this would allow to avoid a lot of data transfer via Internet.

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294 Points

This solution, as I I understand it, still requires the use of the cloud...As a professional, working with a lot of images,  I ask for a quick and easy solution. Again, the cloud sync is unimaginable because too long with a lot of pictures...

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2.1K Points

Another idea, how about having LR mobile do the same as classic optional, uploading the much smaller smart previews, when in an area with a bad connection. And sycn the full size when a good connection is available.

This way I could show and edit the photos already and have a much faster upload than pushing gigabytes of original raws into the cloud at once.

There could be a switch "upload only smart previews" directly in the  upper right cloud menu, or a "prioritize smart-preview upload" and only push the originals after that. It should also give some feedback like "uploading 222 smart previews, 423 fullsize photos pending".

But then the mobile device would have to render all that smartpreviews, that would take some processing power.

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1.4K Points

I like the idea, and most iPads are certainly powerful enough to generate the required Smart Previews, but I think we're still looking at something that is at odds with how Adobe sees Lightroom in the long run. As phones gradually kill off professional photographers, Adobe wants to expand Lightroom beyond the pro (Lightroom Classic) market and compete with Google/Apple Photos (I don't see any reason why this would succeed, honestly), and those services all want to be where your master photos live.

The mobile product only kinda works with Classic if you do everything correctly and in the right order - witness how it handles metadata, etc - but only because it has to, or pros would find another tool. So, the mobile product is part of Lightroom (formerly CC) that plays as nice as it can with Classic, and New Lightroom has no use for Smart Previews beyond working with Classic. So, Adobe would either have to drop its insistence on syncing only via their cloud service, or decide that Smart Previews can be part of the non-Classic product to support this particular edge case. I don't see them doing either at this point.

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164 Points

In my case, all that is needed is for LR mobile to support airdrop since my desktop is an Apple iMacPro. In addition to limited to no internet on travel, I live in the country and the internet charges (not to mention the subpar bandwidth) make the current use of the cloud completely unreasonable. If Adobe would support a LAN transfer, then we could work in a mobile environment and then import the RAWs into LR Classic as we do now. There would be no need to finesse the interface between LR mobile & Classic.

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98 Points

"Edge case"? It's hard for me to believe that needing to work on a mobile platform and then efficiently importing into LR from the mobile device is an "edge case". For (I dare say) many of us, there is simply no need to force the Cloud into that workflow, and it is anything but efficient. Also hard for me to believe that Adobe is preparing to sacrifice its subscription-based revenue stream and chase us to another platform. I sure hope they wake up before this happens.

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1.4K Points

I don't consider it an "edge case", but the fact that Adobe hasn't done anything to solve it in the years we've been harping on them leads me to believe that they think it is, as far as their overall goals are concerned.

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98 Points

I can see how my post might have felt like it was pointed at you. Sorry 'bout that. Obviously no point in complaining at you, and I can see that you are just trying to help.

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1.4K Points

No problem - I really didn't make it clear in my original post that I didn't feel that way. Thanks for being considerate, regardless.

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11.5K Points

a year ago

I am not a coder, but after a 25 year IT career I've learned that: syncing the same dataset both locally to another computer AND over the internet AT THE SAME TIME is unbelievably difficult to achieve and rife with danger to your data. Adobe wisely stays away from taking a chance on losing all your images. It has to be one or the other, and I, for one, am SO glad it's the Cloud, it makes my life SO much easier. End of line.

Champion

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13.7K Points

You apparently never work in an area with limited or no internet connection.  All Adobe has to do is provide a REAL "Export as Original" with all the included XMP data and with IpadOS you can transfer the edits in the field to a PC.  Not a great solution but workable in situations where internet is unusable.

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11.5K Points

Thank God, no, and I hope I never do!

Champion

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13.7K Points

I actually like being out where there is no cell or internet service.  Very refreshing.

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2.1K Points

Yes an export with settings would help too. But that would also need the limit of 15 files to export at once to be removed. That would be the offline solution.

And for slow/bad connections the "only upload smartpreviews to the cloud " option.

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80 Points

I'm sure it's no reflection on your IT experience but...you are conflating two entirely different issues.   Whilst maintaining multiple versions of a singe dataset is fraught with technical difficulties... this concept has absolutely NOTHING to do with the reason why a local syncing option is unavailable on LRM. The decision to leave LAN syncing out of mobile is an ADOBE business stratagem NOT a technical issue AT ALL. (I worked as a OS developer for many years)  I made a post about this over three years ago on this very thread.
Whilst the cloud may work well for you there are many many scenarios where it is sub optimal or downright useless.

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294 Points

a year ago

Oh my god ! New update of LR Ipad ! It is now possible to import directly in Lightroom, and export DNG !!! Oooooo ! Wonderfull !!! I tested with 200 CRAW files and word fine ! Good job Adobe ! Very good job !  Thanks for this update !!!

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164 Points

a year ago

I just exported some raw files in Lightroom Mobile as dng files and then airdropped them to my Mac in tact! I really appreciate that Adobe would make Lightroom more usable to a wider range of folks. Thank-you. It would be awesome as well to have full keywording function & transfer.