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454 Points

Wed, Oct 10, 2012 5:04 PM

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Lightroom: LR4.2 Performance Issues remain

The performance issue is an absolute workflow killer and I am at the point where I want to throw my 2009 MacPro tower out the window. LR4.2 has not improved matters whatsoever. I spend more time waiting for module switches and image adjustments to take effect than actually editing images. There were similar issues with the upgrade from LR2 -> LR3 but not to this degree.
Please, please stop adding new features, functionalities, and/or window dressing – get back to the basics and focus on making a functional product for your user base.

This conversation has been merged. Please refer the main conversation:

Lightroom: Performance and optimization: LR is slow

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114 Points

8 years ago

I love lightroom, I have been using it since version 3 came out and I have to say that the new features in version 4 was an excellent upgrade. It posed a real competition for Apple Aperture 3 and even Capture One pro 6. I generally love Adobe products and I got to praise them for the excellent software they have produced. It is to my regret to say that I have not have all the best working with the new release of Lightroom. I have found myself being less productive than ever before. Lightroom 4.2 has caused some serious slowdowns on my windows pc. It was just last night after optimizing the LR catalog that I had to spend an entire 1-1/2 hours editing one photo, which this photo could have taken me 15 mins have lightroom not slowed down on me. I am completely frustrated with lightroom. This is not the first time I have encountered a major slowdown with the program. I have made up my mind that if Adobe refuse to fix this slowdown with the software I am switching to Capture One Pro. I have never gotten any from of lag using Capture One. I think it is more time efficient to edit in Photoshop than lightroom, however it is not the most convenient way form me to go as a Photographer editing hundreds of photos in a week!!

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Major Slowdown with Lightroom's Workflow.

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86 Points

8 years ago

ALR 4.2 comes VEEEERY SLLLLLOOOOOOWWWW :(
(compares 3.x)
It's impossible to work with many photos with normal speed.
All optimisations was done - not hepled: ALR still laggy on each main operations.

Core i7 2.6GHz 4cores 16G RAM Win7x64 SSD for cashe SATA for RAW
Canon 5D mk3 CR2

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76.3K Points

Consider trying Lr4.3RC1.

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86 Points

2 Rob Cole: Lr4.3RC1 still slow :(
nothing changes
Examples:
1:1 preview was genegated, in "Library" mode to zoom to 1:1 scale - it takes 2-4sec.
Spot healing in Develop - very laggy (mouse cursor just freezes)

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432 Points

8 years ago

Lightroom v slow - examples:

Pic 1
shows the delay in waiting for 2 same-sized images to display (using Survey shortcut 'N'). It takes around 2-3 secs for the small image to display at the same size as the big one.



Pic 2
Shows delay in rendering several images the same size in Survey. On background is the first pic, the rest have all been selected and displayed using 'N' but there is an even longer delay while all images render to same size and line themselves up.

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Very abnormal performance - something not copacetic, to be sure...

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554 Points

8 years ago

Windows 7 and even more so in Windows 8 has the most extensive performance and data metric gathering ability than any OS. If Adobe is serious about this issue then they should be gathering this data from users on the slow systems.

ETW tracing metrics can be gather from Windows 7/8 from users in an admin prompt. More tech savy users can start the .cmd file that enabled the metric tracing Adobe needs to review. Customer does his "slow bit", then stops the tracing.

Adobe collects this from the user, and analyzes it, if needed with the help of Microsoft developer support.

Who knows, this seemingly random systems impacted could be video driver "profiles" that both AMD and NVidia use. Some "feature" in the driver could be in conflict. Can't tell unless that informant is gathered and tossed in to the matrix pool for correlation.

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554 Points

8 years ago

At this time, I am experimenting with video card profile settings (NVidia Control Panel).

Main focus is to see if "Threaded Optimization [Auto | off | on]" has an effect with how LR drives video updates to the screen.

I think lag time is power optimization, where the GPU clocks down to save power/heat. I turned this off so the GPU run at full speed and so does memory.

Another thing to do is (for windows), "Control Panel->Power Options" Select "High Performance", this will turn off slowing the CPU. It will run at 100% all the time.

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186 Points

8 years ago

BTW: LR 4.3 did not change anything for me.

I have excluded Folders from spotlight (Adobe-Cache, Folder with LR-Database and Preview-Database, all Folders holding the RAWs). That brought back some speed in the Library-Mode. Scrolling thru thumbnails and skipping thru fullscreen-photos ('e') is a bit faster now (but still slower than LR3 or LR2)

Developing a picture in LR 4.2 or 4.3 is a pain. Now it easily takes 30+ Minutes where it were about 5-10 Minutes with LR3. Moving a slider results in waiting a few seconds to see a result. It's impossible to work on a real shooting with some hundreds or thousands photos :(

Sure, my old iMac (running OS-X 10.7) is not the fastest but the difference between LR2/LR3 and LR4 is not acceptable. I can see this slowdown on my MacBookPro (running OS-X 10.8) too. (using RAW-Files from my Canon 5D mk1)
Currently i really consider switching back to LR3 when i have the next shooting, because no one pays me for waiting for Lightroom and i only have so much time to finish editing pictures.

On the other hand, a twitter-follower shows me his LR 4.3-Performance which was simply stunning. Changes in developing-module were nearly instant. He has a SDD with the Lightroom-cataloge on it (RAWs on a HDD).

But now, please don't tell us, the solution is to use SSD... What does a SDD has to do with the performance in the develop-module? If the problem is, that LR has to write back tons of data back to the database, than THIS has to be optimized - not the drive this catalogue is on.

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94 Points

8 years ago

LR4 was dog slow to start with; it always under performed LR3. I wasted money on this upgrade because it cannot be used. I have been creating new catalogues for every job which make no difference. The LR3 engine out performs LR4 even when I switch to LR3 within LR4. Adobe, you need to give LR4 users a free LR5 upgrade or fix this version and stop saying that the majority of users do not experience this problem. LR3 works and LR4 doesn’t, plain and simple, MAC & PC users alike.

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You're clearly frustrated, but it would help to know exactly WHAT you're finding slow. The new Develop controls are doing significantly more complex calculations than the old ones, so some areas (preview rendering, exports, etc.) will always be slower than LR3. So understanding what you're finding slow will help to determine whether it's expected behaviour or whether you're seeing something else entirely.

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