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Fri, Oct 25, 2019 11:37 PM

Lightroom: Editing in Ps and returning to Lr no longer adds -Edit-Edit to the file name

Hello,  In Lr, right clicking on an image and choosing edit in Ps with Lr adjustments sends it to Ps.  I make changes in Ps.  I save the file and it goes back to Lr with the changes and saved as a Tif.  If I then use the Tif file and in Lr rt. click and again edit original in Lr, make changes and save it again, the second edit and a third edit if done, would come back to Lr with -Edit or -Edit-Edit for each edit I made.  That is no longer happening.  I do not remember having to make a setting change for this to happen.  Could you help?

Thank you,
Tom

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If you choose ‘Edit Original’, then the file name will not change and should not change. Apparently you did not choose ‘Edit Original’ in the past, but you chose to edit a copy.

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

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Hi Johan,
Here are 3 scenario's.

1- I open a dng and it automatically opens including Lr adjustments and when clicking on File/Save, it renames the file to Untitled-380.tif.

2, In Lr I make no changes to Untitled-380.tif and reopen Edit Copy, it becomes Untitled -381.tif as it opens in Ps and stays that name as it comes back to Lr.

3. I reopen Untitled-380.tif Edit Original and it stays Untitled-380.tif.

I never had this happening in the past. 

Thanks, Tom

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This is as expected if in Preferences - External Editing you have set Lightroom to not add anything to the end of the original file name (look at the bottom of the dialog). This is the explanation:

1: I assume that the DNG is called 'Untitled-380.dng'. If you edit this DNG in Photoshop, Photoshop will save the result as a tiff, so the file name becomes 'Untitled-380.tif'

2: If you edit this tiff again as a copy, Lightroom must create a copy of 'Untitled-380.tif' and so it calls it 'Untitled-381.tif'. That file will be sent to Photoshop and after editing returned by Photoshop. I would have thought that the file name would become 'Untitled-380-2.tif', but maybe Lightroom will simply increase the number if the name ends with a short number.

3: If you choose 'Untitled-380.tif' and choose 'Edit Original', then there is no reason for Lightroom or Photoshop to rename that file. The file name is 'Untitled-380.tif' and remains 'Untitled-380.tif'.

Johan W. Elzenga,

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So conclusion: maybe you have inadvertently changed the template at the bottom of the External Editing dialog, but even then the file name should not change if you choose 'Edit Original', only if you do something that creates a copy.

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

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I mention in my note to you that the original file name as a dng was changed upon opening it in Ps to Untitled-381.tif. 

Thanks for your help, I am just going to deal with how it is working now and going to get used to it.

Tom

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In that case, check that you haven’t selected a file rename template which adds a sequence number.

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Check the file rename template as shown. I’m 99.99% sure that is what happened, and so this can be solved by changing the template.

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

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Thanks for hanging in there!  That did help with the renaming being done by Lr that I did not want.  Though I still cannot get it to add the -Edit like it used to.  But I can simply Save As and change the name myself.  Don't know how I changed the Template setting.  Got it confused with the Import Dialog renaming template I guess.

Anyway I will call this Solved.  Again thanks so much!! 

Tom

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If you don't have that template, then you must create a template that adds '-Edit'. That's not so hard: Click and hold the template, so the menu comes up. Choose 'Edit' and edit the template as shown. Then save this as a new preset.

Johan W. Elzenga,

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OK, very cool.  Thanks!

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