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Sat, Nov 9, 2019 4:34 PM

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Lightroom Ecosystem: Sensei Noise reduction feature request

IMO you know what Adobe needs next to attract customers? An AI NR option. NR Sensei. Keep the traditional method for fast developing. Out in forum land that is one of top gripes about LR and a reason to use a competitor. Tired of the export wait times using DXO and 3rd party AI software I have tried. Even if it takes a little more time it is under one roof.

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a year ago

How would you like the new Sensei NR work?

Principal Scientist, Adobe Lightroom

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I'll give my answer:  Have LR look at adjacent pixels for color differences systematically.  Adobe can do a pretty good job at selecting Smart Objects which could isolate detailed objects from a background Non object Apply some blending of the adjacent dominant color and apply some level of blending back into the original image so that the color noise is mitigated. 

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It could do a more aggressive noise reduction in a blurred background with no details, and keep it down on the subject where details matter.

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It could have an auto function and based on the iso value, apply a correction(according to the many samples of corrected images fed to the AI), prioritising the shadow areas. 

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It is just like Floris van Eck posted. Take a look at DXO PL Prime. The regular NR option for speed developing and an AI option for more critical work. Not that there is anything wrong with LR's current method. I do send high ISO files to DXO PL but I'd prefer not to.  

Topaz is now offering Denoise AI which takes it to new level. Other competitors will follow. Having both a speed (or the traditional option) and an AI option for fine art work be a huge bonus for LR/PS. I think it would interest more people.  

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I'm not a programmer, etc so I really can't describe what it would do. My best example would again be DXO PL. There is are two selections for noise. HQ (fast) which LR/PS already have. Then there is the Prime option which is like AI for better words. Exports take can take longer depending on the device. Actually Sensei NR has a nicer ring to it.              

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Having more thoughts on this. DXO PL works within the software itself. Topaz as a plug-n which creates another file I believe. I think it would be better to have it work in LR/PS, not as a plug-in. Similar to your new Auto/Sensei addition, which was a very good improvement.   

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a year ago

Like DxO PRIME noise reduction. For the last 10 years or so, they have been the undisputed king of noise reduction which they selectively apply (automatically) to parts of the image almost never resulting in a plastic look. It gives your camera at least 1 more effective stop (e.g. it pushes APS-C into FF territory, MFT into APS-C) Also: http://www.gpurendering.com/technology/nvidiaAiForImageNoiseReduction.html This type of benefit is what you would expect from Adobe's Sensei technology.

I am surprised how little progress Adobe is making in core image processing over the last few years. A lot of nice features are being added but almost none give me a better image processing result out of the box after an import. If you look at Adobe RAW processing, it is the "mushiest" between Capture One and DxO PhotoLab would both get much cleaner, pleasant looking images by default without messing with sliders. In general, DxO PhotoLab is like getting a free camera upgrade. My preferred way is to process there and then move to another application with the cleanest possible TIF file. 

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a year ago

I fully support this feature request. I'm using the trial of Topaz Denoise AI and the results are (mostly) amazing! But they don't offer batch processing and the whole process of exporting and re-importing is cumbersome.

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8 months ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled noise reduction.

Enhancement for noise reduction.

recommend development in noise Reduction features in LR Classic.
there are other outlets offering superior features for reducing Noise Reduction and would like this feature in LR to be enhanced. 
This especially for people like myself that photograph birds, so the shutter speed being used is high and therefore the ISO is high and creates a lot of Noise. 
Attention to be focused on this area rather than adding new features.

thank you

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a month ago

Now DXO has come out with PL4 that offers DeepPrime which apparently better than Prime. You are adding good useful improvements but again it would be nice not to have pay Topaz for Denoise AI or another company every year. That money could go towards Adobe products. Keep the current NR method for speed and add a Sensei NR option that challenges your competitors.