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110 Points

Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:09 AM

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Lightroom: Crop options for Image Export tool would be great

I love the Export tool, but I find myself wanting to do a quick crop after resizing the image. There are some pictures where I work quite a bit on the framing and others where I quickly correct WB and exposure and want to export a set of 6x4 jpegs ready to upload to a print website. The current options in the Image Sizing section of the Export tool do not allow me to do this in one step.

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22 Messages

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566 Points

10 years ago

I would LOVE this as well. Just today I set up a few Hard Drive Published Folders to display photos through my apple TV and it would be sweet to have them all trimmed to 16:9.

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13.9K Points

10 years ago

Since it takes about a second to crop an unlimited number of pictures to any ratio you want, why is this a big deal?

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566 Points

10 years ago

It's a big deal because it would mean for casual, aspect ratio specific use such as name above one wouldn't have to either keep track of said changes as virtual copies or remember to undo the specific, and in my case temporary, crop that is required to get the desired aspect ratio. It's not a big deal, just one more potential export option that could be nice to have.

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10 years ago

So what you are wanting is a "Temporarily Crop to" RATIO "Then revert after export function"? Are you wanting to preview and tweak the temporary crop also or just blast it to A-R and be done?

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Beyond that, what if the change of AR is to an already-cropped image? Currently, LR resets the crop before altering the AR. Is that okay? Should center be maintained? Edge? What if the crop has to be shrunk to fit in the current image?

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110 Points

To be clear, I was referring to an export crop only.

The addition that I was thinking of was an extra UI elements below the "Image Sizing" section of the Export popup to (optionally) manage cropping of the exported image. Because this would be embedded in an Export preset, there wouldn't be any additional steps after configuration. This would not change the original image in any way, but simply crop the exported image, much in the same way that the exported image can be resized, have its A-R changed, be post-processed, sharpened, have meta-data stripped, etc. etc. without affecting the original image.

To answer Lee Jay's comments, this would already take into account the processed image, much in the same way that any extra Export processing occurs on the developed image. As such, there would be no reset of the crop specified when developing the image. As far as cropping bias and resizing, the 9-panel UI in PS would be fine, or even center-bias. Dimensioning would be taken care of in a similar fashion as the image resizing options, which allow for quite a bit of flexibility.

I primarily see the use for this as exporting small print JPGs (e.g. 4x6s) from RAW files where the original image dimensions are close to, but not exactly, the size of the print. The workflow I'm talking about isn't really dealing with images that require drastic cropping from the original capture.

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566 Points

10 years ago

To me I wouldn't mind a simple center-bias and shoot it out. Maybe there could be a check box to allow you to tweak crops on their way out as well. Either way.

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10 years ago

Maybe I am missing the point here but it sure seems simpler to crop first. As Lee Jay pointed out you can crop many in QD Panel. Export. Then [Ctrl][CMD] Z to get back to your original crop-on many images. That sure seems quicker to me than this. More control-less fiddling.

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That's exactly what I've done for this. I've literally done hundreds in a few seconds.

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110 Points

I've clarified my thoughts in a response to your earlier comment, but to show you the difference between workflows:

Your suggested workflow:

1. Select images.
2. Crop in QD. Incidentally this will overwrite any existing crops that you have, and I'm not sure how this works with images of differing orientations.
3. Export w/resize options.
4. Undo crop.

My suggested workflow:

1. Select images.
2. Export w/resize and crop options.

While you do give up some control, it's a faster workflow. I acknowledge the control/speed tradeoff, and it's an choice that I wish I had in LR.

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It would be a useful godsend for those who need it, and of no use to others, who are more than welcome to ignore the feature like the many others they never need.

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110 Points

10 years ago

I've clarified my thoughts in a response to your earlier comment, but to show you the difference between workflows:

Your suggested workflow:

1. Select images.
2. Crop in QD. Incidentally this will overwrite any existing crops that you have, and I'm not sure how this works with images of differing orientations.
3. Export w/resize options.
4. Undo crop.

My suggested workflow:

1. Select images.
2. Export w/resize and crop options.

While you do give up some control, it's a faster workflow. I acknowledge the control/speed tradeoff, and it's an choice that I wish I had in LR.

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76.3K Points

7 years ago

If Lr supported crop in develop presets, this would be more readily doable via plugin.