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Thu, Nov 2, 2017 11:20 AM

Lightroom Classic: This has to be a record for Adobe. (Slow LR speed)

Seriously, I'm hip to the faster-slower-faster-slower-slower cadence of Lightroom updates but this is gonna be hard to beat. 7.0 saw some modest speed improvements when it was released, what, a couple weeks back? But relax folks, 7.0.1 seems to beautifully address that oversight, with a sluggishness I'd previously thought out of reach for even the wizards at Adobe. Please be assured that nobody who uses your products would rely on them to, you know, make a living or anything...

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664 Points

4 y ago

Indeed. I gave them a golf clap yesterday. Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse, Adobe's like "Hold our beer!" and then POW! When I contacted them to address it, they sent me here. 

Currently testing out ACDSee Studio. So far, it delivers everything that Lightroom has promised but failed to deliver. 

I miss Lightroom 2. Back then, it was everything it was supposed to be. Adobe lost its way somewhere along the line...

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4 y ago

It's a bugfix, quickly fixing a flaw found in a new release. See the actual reasons for 7.0.1 here .

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Thanks John but, regardless of why they've updated, the update runs like a dog. Way slower than previous versions, which were stupid slow themselves. It's now slow to the point of standstill. Unusable. Crashes I can deal with but walking through molasses I can't.

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I get standard previews generated 4 times as fast as before, 1:1 previews 2.5 times as fast. That's the kind of change I would expect (confirmed elsewhere), and I wouldn't expect 7.0.1 to have an impact either way. 

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664 Points

Previews are faster, but the problem is that the program overall is now slower. 

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john beardsworth Personally I expected mainly actual editing to be faster...Unfortunately didn't happen.

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The reason I mention previews is because the performance boost is easily measurable. Check the release notes for other areas that are faster - eg brushing, spot removal - and see if you can find a way to test the performance compared with LR6. Unless they just want to rant, people need to be very specific.

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john beardsworth My findings are here:
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-classic-cc-develop-module-still-slo...
Laggy develop editing is the thing which has been slowing me for quite a long time. Slow brushes were annoying, but not a priority to me. It's about general responsiveness of Develop for me. 

My hopes were just too high I guess. I even didn't  fill out the performance survey, because I thought it's just obvious what's slow. Any tester on any machine can find out in half an hour. My bad. But actually I'm quite patient and I understand that it's a complex issue. 
I thought I just need to give some feedback on this performance thing. LR is still best for me, but I don't need to defend LR/Adobe at all costs. Some people in here are even willing to help with the matter. 

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950 Points

4 y ago

I am a customer form day 1. And 701 is the first version that crashed. So i went back to 700, which works well for me.

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4 y ago

I'm rolling back to 7.0. No wonder we've had no new Shakespeare plays. The trained monkeys are all working at Adobe. Luminar 2018 beckons.

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664 Points

4 y ago

Shane, I'll check out Luminar. 

Em, I have been a customer since day 1 as well. I'm not talking about crashing. Honestly, LR has never crashed on me. I'm talking about performance. It's SLOW. And what's worse, it's slow randomly. 

John, LR's sluggishness has been a core feature of the program for several years now. When an update is released that is supposed to address the lag and does the exact opposite, that's not a bug. It's a failure. 

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7.01 is only a bug fix for a couple of specific issues. Nothing to do with performance.

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Didn't even bother with 7.01 because 7.0 "enhanced" the existing performance issues. 

Adobe is failing miserably with Lightroom and they know it. 

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John, in the offices of Blackmagic Design there is a big "swear jar". It's not for bad language, that's normal; it's for every time a coder exclaims, "But I never changed THAT line". Coding 101, changes you make can have knock-on effects. Test before releasing. Adobe don't do this. Clearly. 

For me 7.0.1 was building Auto-Toned previews so slowly as to appear to have crashed but, go back 10 minutes later and one more had completed. It was literally going to take a day to render the previews. Useless. Rolled back to 7.0 and I'm back to preview renders that are actually faster than the previous version.

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When is Google going to buy out Adobe and free us slaves from the brutal control of a corporation that doesn't have any respect for their customers or expertise in making programs?

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950 Points

4 y ago

I know Rob. What I meant to say is that I never had a crash before, until 7.0.1

I am not sure of the wisdom to direct mega resources to develop an amateur cloud version, instead of giving priority to the PRO version (Classic they call it). Brilliant idea (not) to ask us to work with thousands of our 50Mb RAW files via the net. Really brilliant.

Having said that, 7.0.0. works well on my new computer (W10, 16Gb, I7, SSD). D850 files are slowish, as expected.

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4 y ago

Oddly enough, I just checked and there must have been an update after I recently updated because I'm running 7.0. Now I'm not even going to check out 7.01 
7 is lagging bad enough on my system (W10, 64GB i7, SSD primary)

I agree that working on large raw images via a cloud is moronic. 

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254 Points

The new LR CC was an ill-advised concept that Adobe's LR team had been gurgling about in their crib for about a decade. Wish they'd grow up and make their software function appropriately, instead of always making a rehashed copy of an already-broken pile of junk. They released a mobile app for free, which is nice, except it doesn't manage photos better or offer much better editing of photos than most free apps on the app store.