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alan_harper
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Thu, Aug 11, 2011 7:04 AM

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Lightroom Classic: Support cataloging PSB files (files larger than 2 GB PSDs and 4 GB TIFFs)

Lightroom should catalog psb files, just as it does psd files. I have many psb files that are not over the 65,000 pixels per side or 512 megapixel limits, but are larger than the 4GB limit on psd files, and it would be nice to see them in Lightroom.

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Rikk

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a year ago

Updates to Lightroom Classic, were released yesterday and contain initial support for PSB files.   Please install the appropriate update. You can read more about the updates here.

Note: Lightroom pixel-dimension maximums (65,000 Pixels long edge or 512 MP - whichever comes first) continue to be a limitation but the team is looking into expanding this range in a future enhancement for the PSB file support. 

Thank you for your patience.
Adobe Photography Products

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brian_rodgers_jr

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494 Points

I'm so happy to finally see PSB support in Lightroom Classic! PSBs are part of my daily workflow as a commercial photographer, and I have been waiting for this update for years. Thank you Adobe!

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a year ago

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paul_takeuchi_4304780

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Yes, thank you, Adobe. A very long time in coming. Such a badly needed feature. We look forward to larger dimension importability in the future. One suggestion: while I know Adobe, nor any company, wants to promise features and not deliver, it would have been considerate if 3-6 months ago, Adobe told us, hey, we're listening and we're currently developing this functionality, so stay tuned. The total silence during this lengthy request was very alienating and really was unneccessary for a company with customer-driven products like Adobe.

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a year ago

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naestyoh

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Can we, perhaps as a stopgap, have large PSB render/edit in an Enhanced Smart Preview? This preview would be a DNG proxy that differs from a Standard Smart Preview in that it trades out speed for quality. It would be the same sort of smaller render but without a ton of compression/degradation (slower).

(Typical Smart Preview is a heavily compressed, downscaled, lossy DNG proxy, right?)

MANY of my files are gigapixel - I'm looking at a smaller one just built that's 55732 x 23346 px (1300 MP). I don't need 100% zoom on this file, but could use the flexiblity of LR edit tools like adjustment brushes/gradients, etc. Export would apply the edits to the full-res PSB. 

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9 months ago

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john_beardsworth

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You can implement that stopgap yourself. Create your own proxy file in PS, add it to the catalogue, then in Finder/Explorer replace it with the big PSB.

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9 months ago

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naestyoh

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negative. LR throws up its hands. 

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9 months ago

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john_beardsworth

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That screenshot was from where? If the proxy file (eg a jpeg, a linked placed file) fits in the size guidelines, it should import and you should then be able to fool LR by swapping over the files. But I am only thinking about managing these files, tagging them, not doing things like adjustments that process the image.

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9 months ago

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john_beardsworth

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So here on my desktop (left column) you can see a 60k*40k PSB that I couldn't import into LR, but which I added to a 6k*4k PSD using File > Place Linked. And in LR I'm making adjustments to the PSB.


As another approach, I changed the PSD's name and fixed the missing file by pointing at the PSB

Now I have the actual PSB catalogued in LR, so I can manage it, but metadata won't save to the file and I can't adjust it in LR.

I'd go for the first method, but I just wouldn't hold my breath waiting until there's no need for any stopgap.

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9 months ago

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lee_jay_fingersh

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10 years ago

Since 512 megapixels * 8 bytes per pixel = 4GB, doesn't this mean you have large PSB files that are also layered?

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alan_harper

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10 years ago

Yes.

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lee_jay_fingersh

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10 years ago

So, if you flatten and save as a tiff, they show up in LR?

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alan_harper

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10 years ago

LJ

I save the psb as a final tiff, which goes in my finished tiff folder. The psb is deep in my edited images folder structure. I link the two using the Title field (which is, I understand, the recommended practice for using xmp metadata to link various versions of the same file).

So I intended that if I needed to revisit an image, I would look in the final folder in LR, then search on the Title in LR, and find the original scan + all the intermediate versions + the final tiff + any resized tiffs, all nicely cataloged for me. Obv., this won't work as I was hoping it would, so I'll have to come up with a work-around.

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alan_harper

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10 years ago

Oh, BTW, these Tiffs are 6 bytes per pixel, about 80 megapixels (4 x 5 images scanned at 2,000 dpi). When you get to 8 or 10 layers + masks you start to push up against the 4 GB limit, and when you have 20, you need to switch.

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lee_jay_fingersh

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10 years ago

Got it.

As an aside, a possibly-simple workaround would be to place them into the same folder as the TIFF with the same file name. Then, when you want to find the PSB, you just use show in explorer/finder.

Yeah, I know, that's not the organization you have set up and the ability to catalog them would be better. As such, have you looked at the "anyfile" plugin?

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alan_harper

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10 years ago

Lee or Lee Jay

(I"m confused if you have a double-barreled first name, or a first + last as your moniker here)

That recommendation for anyfile may be solution to many of problems. Thanks!

Alan

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bryn_forbes

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9 years ago

Or at least let you see thumbnails for them (like video support)

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david_arky

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62 Points

9 years ago

I have been using Lightroom since version 1.2. My main use of the application is to create web galleries to show to my clients as well as for exporting my final Photoshop documents as Tiffs and Jpegs. I recently tried importing PSB files and disappointed that Lightroom 3.6 does not import these. It's important to my workflow and from various forum, find that it would be a welcome addition.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Lightroom should be able to import PSB files.

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john_ellis_3507433

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1.6K Points

9 years ago

Unfortunately, the Any File plugin will not show thumbnails of PSB files on Mac, and it will only show the thumbnails on Windows if you get a third-party codec (e.g. Ardfry's). I'm not aware of a third-party Quicklook plugin for PSB on Mac.

Unlike other application developers, Adobe refuses to provide the necessary thumbnail plugins for PSD and PSB files on Mac and Windows and PDF files on 64-bit Windows. (Apple has implemented Quicklook thumbnails for PSD files but not PSB files.)

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john_ellis_3507433

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9 years ago

See also:

http://feedback.photoshop.com/photosh...

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mark_fink

1 Message

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84 Points

9 years ago

I would like to put in my request to add PSB support as well. I do a lot of stitching of images, then combining of exposures and frequently exceed the limits of TIFF and PSD. Kudos to Adobe for adding support for 32 bit HDR TIFF images recently.

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t_smith_4420065

3 Messages

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84 Points

9 years ago

It would be great to add .PSB support to lightroom! Personally I find LR amazingly useful for cateloging my working files as well as my RAW files and sometimes I am called upon to use .PSBs because I've exceeded the limit on .PSD. It would be extremely helpful to be able to incorporate my large photoshop files!

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Add .PSB Support for Lightroom.

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s_h_4588218

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82 Points

9 years ago

I have just tried to import a .psb file into Lightroom to make some global adjustments and I am totally disgusted to find out that even the latest version of LR doesn't support their own file format! What is wrong with the people at Adobe? This is a file format that is increasingly being used by photographers working with large panoramic images produced by cameras with high-res sensors so this needs to be supported by LR. It is a no-brainer... Get it sorted Adobe quickly!!

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Support for .psb files needed in Lightroom.

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