Lightroom Classic: Spot removal behavior on image edge

I have recently noticed a similar behaviour with a cropped image. I have tried to remove a small dark spot on a nearly white background near the edge of a crop. I was absolutely sure that the area outside the crop was of the same white color and texture as the background of the crop. No matter what I tried I always got a kind of dark shadow in the healed area. 

I was surprised about this since I have not noticed such a poor behaviour of the spot removal tool for quite a while.

I concur, having the same problem and thought it was just me. Playing with feathering sometimes helps a little but doesn't clear up the issue. For me, definitely new with 9.2. 
 
Perhaps it is time to start a movement to get Adobe to revert Lightroom to 9.1 as 9.2 is a terribly buggy release? 

Any chance of some screenshots so we can see exactly what you mean?

I have attached two screenshots showing the effect for the edge of an UNcropped image.

Spot removal tool was set to healing, feather = 0 and opacity = 100. These settings have led to the "best" results. Changing the size of the spot removal tool has no effect.

(I use Lightroom with the German localization, so I hope I have guessed the proper English terms)

Is the problem related to having the Lens Correction option Enable Profile Correction turned on?

I noticed that having lens profile correction on actually 'crops' the edge, but the spot removal tool acts as though it is working on the image data before the lens correction is applied.

Here is an example of spot removal of a leaf that appears on the edge of a lens profile corrected image. The before and after shows how much the lens profile has 'cropped' the edge.



Clicking on the leaf with the spot removal tool in heal mode and moving the sample point results in a smudge.



I think the smudge is due to Lr blending with part of the leaf that is 'outside' the lens corrected image, but 'inside' the original image boundary. Turning the lens profile correction off shows this more clearly.



This has always been a problem with cropped images, but I didn't realise it is also a problem with lens profile corrected images!

I've argued in the past about this problem in cropped images where the spot removal on the edge of a cropped image can sample and blend with image data outside the crop boundary, which is often undesired. Here we have the same problem, except the crop is less obvious.

Tony

As I clearly mentioned, this is an UN-cropped image, with NO lens corrections enabled or transformations, so my particular issue has nothing to do with any of those scenarios. 

I've been using Lr professionally on a near-daily basis for over 10 years, and while it could've been me or some odd situation with the few particular images (but being as it was more than one image I don't think that's the case)... it was definitely behaving differently lately than it used to, so not the expected or usual behavior at all, so I thought I'd raise the issue.

Strangely, I just tried to reproduce it to get some screen shots but couldn't.  So maybe it was something odd going on with my computer or me.  :)  But as I mentioned the image had an all-black edge (a groom's tux jacket standing partially out of frame), except for a little sliver area of white.  I tried to remove the white area, sampling with my spot far beyond the white, far into the black.  In the past it would completely remove 100% of the white, leaving only black, but when I raised the issue it was leaving behind some white.  No matter where I sampled, how far into the black my spot was, how big or small it was, etc.

BTW, again it wasn't my issue in this case, but I do agree with Tony that it would be great if Lr treated the edge of a cropped image as if it were the actual edge of the image, as far as spot healing goes.  There's been countless times when I've had to un-crop an image before I heal, then re-crop it.  Not a huge deal, but would be nice...

As best I can tell the frame edge Spot Removal Heal behavior isn't something new. It sounds like this should be designated as an 'Idea.' Add a checkbox in the Spot Removal panel named 'Constrain to image' or something like that.

I agree Todd, I'm always in favour of giving the user more control and a 'Constrain to image' option on Spot removal would be just such control.

The frame edge spot removal in heal mode problem has been raised before:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/spot-removal-in-heal-mode-doesnt-work-properly-at-a-crop-boundary-edge

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/latest-lr-buggy-spot-removal-tool-doesnt-work-right-at-edges-of-image

I Just had a chance to test this with LR Classic 9.2, 8.2, and 5.7.1 on my Windows 7 system. The Clone and Heal Spot Removal does not exhibit the issue with these versions. LR 9.3 can't be installed on Windows 7 so I can't test it on that system, but on my Windows 10 system LR 9.3 exhibits the issue as expected. It's actually quite bad when you compare it to these earlier versions of LR. Interestingly one user in this post is seeing the issue with LR 9.2, but appears he's using a Mac system. Regardless, LR 9.3 exhibits the issue on both Windows and Mac systems and needs to fixed.

Todd, I think the problem you are now seeing with LrC 9.3's Spot healing tool on the image frame edge is a new issue. See here:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/9-3-update-apparent-bug-with-healing-tool?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=new_topic&utm_content=topic_link

LrC 9.3 fixed another problem with the Spot healing tool on the image frame edge for CR2 files:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/repair-brush-bug-in-lr9-1?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=new_reply&utm_content=topic_link

Whatever was done in this fix has made Spot healing on the image frame edge very bad for everyone.

Same here: it acts as there would be some pixels outside of image border - it "destroyed" my edits I did in pre-9.3 version - it was "plain white" instead of a strange gradient:

Konrad, if on Windows, ensure that the display settings are set to the defaults for resolution and scaling. Choosing other settings is the only time I've seen this problem on Windows 10.

Just checked some Fuji S2 Pro (jpeg) images with 48 spots removed with 9.2, no issues. Removed a couple additional spots with 9.3.
Also no issues.

D300S & D200 DNG's edited prior to 9.3, also no problems. D200 NEF, fine. Fuji X-T3 RAF OK too. Olympus EM1 ORF files display correctly too.

I've had this before and just noticed something that might help.

 

In my photo I have an intruding tree coming into the photo which is uncropped