Skip to main content
Adobe Photoshop Family
KM

5 Messages

 • 

168 Points

Sat, Oct 24, 2020 4:36 PM

Acknowledged

Lightroom Classic: Problem when using copy and paste or sync in develop module with WB changed

My operating system is MacOS Catalina 10.15.7. With the new LRClassic update 10.0. When I change the WB from As Shot to Daylight in the Develop module with the Profile at Camera Standard (Nikon D500 and D850 user) whether I have made other changes to other sections of the basic panel or not and then copy and past to another photo or sync to other photos (same sequence and same camera WB settings) the WB label changes to Daylight in the photos copied to or synched but the sliders (and the setting) do not change. I then have to go to each individual photo copied to or synched to and change wb back to as shot and then to Daylight and then it works although then the preveviews in the thumbnails in the film strip below are erractically slow to resolve. This does not happen if I have just changed the Temp or Tint slider or both but only if I have clicked on the Daylight option. I have tried disabling all plug ins and no change, I have turned of the computer completely and turned it back on etc.. .  

Responses

Accepted Solution

Champion

 • 

5.3K Messages

 • 

95.4K Points

5 days ago

While waiting for this bug to be fixed, here all the ways I successfully set multiple selected photos to WB: Daylight (tested with multiple D850 raws set to Camera Standard, LR 10.0, Mac OS 10.15.7):

Develop, Auto Sync:
1. Go to Develop.
2. Turn on Auto Sync by clicking the toggle to the left of the Sync bottom in the lower-right corner.
3. Change WB to Daylight.
4. Turn off Auto Sync.

Develop, right-click copy/paste:
1. Go to Develop.
2. Change WB to Daylight.
3. Right-click the filmstrip thumbnail and do Develop Settings > Copy Settings; check White Balance.
4. Right-click the thumbnail and do Develop Settings > Paste Settings.

Library Grid view, Quick Develop:
1. Go to Library grid view (type "g"; not Loupe view)
2. In the Quick Develop panel, change White Balance to Daylight.

Library Loupe view, Quick Develop
1. Go to Library Loupe view (type "e")
2. Turn on Auto Sync by clicking the toggle to the left of the Sync button in the lower-right corner.
3. In the Quick Develop panel, change White Balance to Daylight.
4. Turn off Auto Sync.

Library Loupe and Grid view, with the first photo's WB already set to Daylight, right-click copy/paste:
1. Go to Library Loupe or Grid view.
2. Right-click the first photo's filmstrip thumbnail and do Develop Settings > Copy Settings; check White Balance.
3. Right-click the thumbnail and do Develop Settings > Paste Settings.

Champion

 • 

2.2K Messages

 • 

37.3K Points

a month ago

I can confirm the same behavior on my Windows 10 system using LrC 10.0.

Champion

 • 

2.2K Messages

 • 

37.3K Points

I tested LrC 9.4 (previous version) and it does NOT exhibit this issue so the bug was introduced in LrC 10.0. Just a confirmation for Adobe Engineering.

4 Messages

 • 

90 Points

a month ago

I can confirm that this is happening on Catalina 10.15.7 on a MacBook Pro and Lightroom Classic 10.0 using Sony .awr files that have been converted to .dng files upon import. 

13 Messages

 • 

240 Points

a month ago

Observed this yesterday. Good to see it already reported.

Champion

 • 

5.3K Messages

 • 

95.4K Points

a month ago

A workaround: In Library loupe or grid view, select the photos, and in the Quick Develop panel, change White Balance to Daylight.

I haven't extensively tested it, but it worked on the few test cases I tried.

Champion

 • 

2.2K Messages

 • 

37.3K Points

John, on my Windows 10 system that only works in the Library Grid view, which I believe is normal behavior.

Adobe Administrator

 • 

792 Messages

 • 

14.6K Points

Another work around is to turn on Auto Sync in the Develop module. Good catch on this by the way. I normally work in Auto Sync mode and would never have noticed this. 

Champion

 • 

5.3K Messages

 • 

95.4K Points

"[It] only works in the Library Grid view"

Right. 10 years on and I stil get confused about selections and Loupe.

8 Messages

 • 

132 Points

Auto Sync didn't alleviate this problem in Develop mode for me.

Adobe Administrator

 • 

792 Messages

 • 

14.6K Points

a month ago

I see this behavior as well and will write a bug for it. It seems to happen whenever a WB setting is changed from the drop down menu in the white balance edit panel. It behaves this way for all drop downs except Custom. Perhaps because you have to actually move a slider to make a custom setting.

5 Messages

 • 

168 Points

Thank you ... I find that most of the time my D850 does great with auto wb but my D500 frequently is a bit off from where it should be in full daylight using auto wb so that is the most frequent drop down menu I use so had not noticed the others yet.

Champion

 • 

2.2K Messages

 • 

37.3K Points

Thanks Rikk. I also tested ACR 13.0 and it does not exhibit the issue.

Adobe Administrator

 • 

8.5K Messages

 • 

121.6K Points

Other Rick.... 

 Adobe Photography Products

Quality Engineering - Customer Advocacy

Champion

 • 

2.2K Messages

 • 

37.3K Points

I knew that! Thanks Rick........just a senior moment!

10 Messages

 • 

248 Points

@Rick  

I am experiencing a similar problem with Copy and Paste. When I Check All in the copy function and then uncheck Color Grading, Color Grading is always copied anyway.  If I uncheck everything and then individually check each box except for Color Grading it works as it should.

Champion

 • 

5.3K Messages

 • 

95.4K Points

Khphotog,

I observe the same behavior. Please post this to a new thread, since it's a different set of symptoms and the developer most likely see your post buried here.

10 Messages

 • 

248 Points

Thank you John. I'll do that. 

12 Messages

 • 

1.5K Points

a month ago

Win 10 Pro - LrC V10

I see the same behavior. In develop, changing the white balance on the main image, then selecting another image or images the Sync function does not work on the adjacent image or non-contiguous ones.  If I adjust esposure and WB, then sync, both values get synched.

 

In the Library module, Grid view, change the white balance in quick develop and use the Sync Settings button results in no sync of the WB. But, the WB field in quick develop does show that the value "tungsten" in this case has changed. When I try to sync the change in two values, WB and exposure, the exposure syncs, but the WB does not. 

I tried just changing the WB in Grid View on an image and nothing else. Then the sync with the adjacent image worked ok if I also had Basic Tone checked, even though I had not made any changes to those items.

(edited)

Employee

 • 

137 Messages

 • 

2.3K Points

a month ago

Thanks a lot Ken, for reporting this, and others for confirming.

We are able to reproduce and are investigating the issue.

Thanks,

Arjun

5 Messages

 • 

168 Points

@arjun_haarith You'r welcome and thank you

(edited)

8 Messages

 • 

132 Points

I'm having the exact same issue Ken (OSX 10.15.7, LR 10.0, .CR2 files). Is there a known fix for this yet? It is making editing painfully slow.

8 Messages

 • 

132 Points

Thanks, John. Only fixes in Library mode obviously. Hopefully, Adobe gets onto this ASAP, it is a pretty huge problem for this software to not work on it's most basic editing, WB. I've been using Lightroom professionally for 13 years, and this is first time I've ever encounted this problem.

Champion

 • 

5.3K Messages

 • 

95.4K Points

"Only fixes in Library mode obviously."

To make sure we're on the same page: It does require you to switch to Library mode, but the changes you make with Quick Develop will still be visible when you go back to Develop.

8 Messages

 • 

132 Points

Plus note: this is not an acceptable solution. The accepted solution would be to not have this problem at all.

(edited)

Champion

 • 

5.3K Messages

 • 

95.4K Points

Fully agree that the bug should be fixed.

8 Messages

 • 

132 Points

Actually, I can narrow down the issues to any WB setting that is selected in the drop-down WB menu, from both Develop AND Library modes. WB needs to be manually selected in for Synchronising to apply. All other settings in Synchronisation apply/work when Synchronising, except for WB. Hope that makes sense.

5 Messages

 • 

168 Points

@Stewart Ross ... it is frustrating ...  the "work around" I am using is simple ... for example I click on the desired adobe wb preset and then just move it by 1 ie. for daylight change it to 5501 and then it sync's or copies as normal. Still would prefer to have it fixed sooner rather than later.

Champion

 • 

5.3K Messages

 • 

95.4K Points

Note that if you use Quick Panel to change WB to Daylight while in Library Loupe view, only the current photo gets changed. (That's a general property of Loupe view.) You either have to be in Grid view or use the Auto Sync toggle.

To narrow down the issue, here all the ways I successfully set multiple selected photos to WB: Daylight (tested with multiple D850 raws set to Camera Standard, LR 10.0, Mac OS 10.15.7):

Develop, Auto Sync:
1. Go to Develop.
2. Turn on Auto Sync by clicking the toggle to the left of the Sync bottom in the lower-right corner.
3. Change WB to Daylight.
4. Turn off Auto Sync.

Develop, right-click copy/paste:
1. Go to Develop.
2. Change WB to Daylight.
3. Right-click the filmstrip thumbnail and do Develop Settings > Copy Settings; check White Balance.
4. Right-click the thumbnail and do Develop Settings > Paste Settings.

Library Grid view, Quick Develop:
1. Go to Library grid view (type "g"; not Loupe view)
2. In the Quick Develop panel, change White Balance to Daylight.

Library Loupe view, Quick Develop
1. Go to Library Loupe view (type "e")
2. Turn on Auto Sync by clicking the toggle to the left of the Sync button in the lower-right corner.
3. In the Quick Develop panel, change White Balance to Daylight.
4. Turn off Auto Sync.

Library Loupe and Grid view, with the first photo's WB already set to Daylight, right-click copy/paste:
1. Go to Library Loupe or Grid view.
2. Right-click the first photo's filmstrip thumbnail and do Develop Settings > Copy Settings; check White Balance.
3. Right-click the thumbnail and do Develop Settings > Paste Settings.

8 Messages

 • 

132 Points

@Ken Miracle Yep, I use the same work around. It slows my efficiency when editing hundreds of images.

5 Messages

 • 

168 Points

I feel your pain ... I am retired but I still know time = money.

2 Messages

 • 

70 Points

23 days ago

If you select one of the standard present white balance settings (example: Daylight) and copy settings, when pasting to another photo the white balance is not applied.  If you copy a custom white balance then this is applied.

Lightroom Classic 10.0

In previous versions this worked as expected

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Lightroom Classic: Pasting white balance preset no longer works after recent Lightroom update

1.8K Messages

 • 

21.4K Points

Yeah, something isn't right on this end either (Mac OS). 

I DO see the WB label change from say As Shot to Fluorescent but I don't see the color appearance update. I'll file a bug report. 

Author “Color Management for Photographers"

1.8K Messages

 • 

21.4K Points

What's happening with a paste is the actual WB menu gets updated but not the image. If you actually select the WB from said menu, it works. So yes, it's a bug and Adobe is now aware of it. Good catch! 

Author “Color Management for Photographers"

Employee

 • 

137 Messages

 • 

2.3K Points

Hi Michael,

Yes, we are aware of this issue, and it will be addressed in the future release.

As a workaround you can use 'Auto Sync'

Thanks a lot. 

Thanks,

Arjun

3 Messages

 • 

72 Points

The new Lightroom Classic 10.0 Mac wont sync the whitebalance settings in the develope module. The checkbox is on for syncing whitebalance, but nothing happens with the rest of the selected images when applying the settings. This is quite annoying …

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled The new Lightroom Classic 10.0 Mac wont sync the whitebalance settings

Employee

 • 

137 Messages

 • 

2.3K Points

Hi Kenn,

We are aware of this and are working on fixing it.

It'll be addressed in the future release.

Thanks,
Arjun

2 Messages

 • 

62 Points

Hey there, just letting you know this isn't limited to the Mac version, getting the same thing here on Windows, just updated last night, regretting it right now...

It updates the WB name to whatever you copied, Daylight, Custom etc but doesn't change the values Temp and Tint thus no change to the image itself.

Employee

 • 

137 Messages

 • 

2.3K Points

Hi Jason,

Yes, we are aware of that.

As a workaround you can use 'Auto Sync' 

Thanks,

Arjun

3 Messages

 • 

70 Points

When copying the White Balance 'Flash' and pasting it on another photo in the Develop module the label 'Flash' is pasted, but the values are not pasted.

Pasting custom White Balance values does work.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Bug: Paste White Balance doesn't work in LR classic 10

95 Messages

 • 

962 Points

I confirm this behaviour. If you chose any of the WB preset and copy paste the white balance you will paste the preset name but not the value. Except for personal values

1.8K Messages

 • 

21.4K Points

It's a known and reported bug Adobe is aware of and will fix.

Author “Color Management for Photographers"

15 Messages

 • 

212 Points

Arjun_Haarith, are you aware the Presets BUG from version 11 is BACK?  This is beyond frustrating!  

I made this video several versions ago, and it was fixed and now it is BACK!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gOiOzjgr6s

8 Messages

 • 

132 Points

@Arjun re: "We are aware of this and are working on fixing it. It'll be addressed in the future release." In future a release? How long will this be? For a wedding and portrait photographers, it almost renders the software useless, as it taking 5 times longer to edit a complete wedding.

Well, I've always wanted to try Capture One, looks like now is the time!

1 Message

 • 

60 Points

18 days ago

I can confirm the same behavior with LrC V10 on an iMac running on MacOS Catalina 10.5.7. Copy and paste / sync of white balance doesn't work properly. Seems to be that white balance can' be synced.

Ralf Kleemann

1 Message

 • 

60 Points

I confirm the same issue happening on my my imac  with LRC10 on catalina. Is there a fix in sight yet.  Very frustrating

1 Message

 • 

60 Points

7 days ago

Well I am glad I came here.  I thought I was going crazy for the last month.  This is happening to me as well.  VERY frustrating and is slowing my work flow.  I'm on Mac OS version 10.15.7 (19H15) and LR 10.0

5 Messages

 • 

110 Points

6 days ago

In addition to the fuzziness of the Library module when zoomed in, I have found another 'quirk' of Lightroom Classic v10.  It goes like this: create virtual copy of RAW file, make adjustments on the virtual copy that are different from the original's settings, including white balance, then copy all settings, go back to original RAW file and paste settings.  

When I tried this (since I often try and compare different settings on the same photo) according to the tools tab, the white balance had copied across, but visually it was obvious that it had not, regardless of whether I view it in Library or Develop.  I tried this in both directions - original to virtual copy and vice versa.  Exactly the same result, and it didn't make any difference whether I reset the photo that I was pasting to or just pasted over the settings that it already had.  Again, the results were the same in both directions (virtual to original or original to virtual).  I have never had this problem before LRC V10.  

The histogram sometimes looked different between copied and pasted versions as well, despite the fact they were the same RAW photo now supposedly with the same develop settings, so there may have been other things that claimed to have copied across when they had not.  As with the blurriness in the Library module that I have mentioned in a separate post, reverting back to v9.4 has cured this lunacy.  So, I now have a few photos to reprocess, but better that than carry on with the mess that v10 seems to be.  

I can see online that people are having various other problems with v10. This is just an unacceptable mess that Adobe really need to sort out quickly.  I am currently regretting not giving my trial version of Capture One a more thorough test run before deleting it.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Lightroom Classic V10: copying and pasting settings not correct

1.8K Messages

 • 

21.4K Points

Copy/paste WB is a known bug and fixed for next release.

Author “Color Management for Photographers"

Adobe Administrator

 • 

8.5K Messages

 • 

121.6K Points

This thread is being merged into an authoritative thread for better tracking and response. 

 Adobe Photography Products

Quality Engineering - Customer Advocacy