Lightroom Classic: Problem when using copy and paste or sync in develop module with WB changed

it was available this morning and it works :-)

@Rick 

No, update does not work on PC Win10. Just updated to LR 10.1 and Camera Raw 13.1. Same issue like before: Whitebalance can't be copied correctly.

This behaviour makes LR unreliable because it tends to be hard to detect. I avoid Lightroom since Version 10 and will go on doing so. 

Adjustment:

Copiing WB actually does work if you change WB-Settings on masterphoto and then copy WB to another photo.

But coppiing still does not work correctly if You copy existing WB-settings on masterphoto. So: The fix ist not complete - form my point.

Reading the original post it is now working properly. Try his procedure as shown below. Not sure what you mean by, "But coppiing still does not work correctly if You copy existing WB-settings on masterphoto." Can you be more specific.

This now works properly on my Windows 10 system using LrC 10.1.

"When I change the WB from As Shot to Daylight in the Develop module with the Profile at Camera Standard (Nikon D500 and D850 user) whether I have made other changes to other sections of the basic panel or not and then copy and past to another photo or sync to other photos (same sequence and same camera WB settings) the WB label changes to Daylight in the photos copied to or synched but the sliders (and the setting) do not change."

I tested LrC 9.4 (previous version) and it does NOT exhibit this issue so the bug was introduced in LrC 10.0. Just a confirmation for Adobe Engineering.

John, on my Windows 10 system that only works in the Library Grid view, which I believe is normal behavior.

Another work around is to turn on Auto Sync in the Develop module. Good catch on this by the way. I normally work in Auto Sync mode and would never have noticed this. 

"[It] only works in the Library Grid view"

Right. 10 years on and I stil get confused about selections and Loupe.

Auto Sync didn't alleviate this problem in Develop mode for me.

Thank you ... I find that most of the time my D850 does great with auto wb but my D500 frequently is a bit off from where it should be in full daylight using auto wb so that is the most frequent drop down menu I use so had not noticed the others yet.

Thanks Rikk. I also tested ACR 13.0 and it does not exhibit the issue.

Other Rick.... 

I knew that! Thanks Rick........just a senior moment!

@Rick  

I am experiencing a similar problem with Copy and Paste. When I Check All in the copy function and then uncheck Color Grading, Color Grading is always copied anyway.  If I uncheck everything and then individually check each box except for Color Grading it works as it should.

Khphotog,

I observe the same behavior. Please post this to a new thread, since it's a different set of symptoms and the developer most likely see your post buried here.

Thank you John. I'll do that. 

@arjun_haarith You'r welcome and thank you

I'm having the exact same issue Ken (OSX 10.15.7, LR 10.0, .CR2 files). Is there a known fix for this yet? It is making editing painfully slow.

Two workarounds posted elsewhere in this thread:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/conversations/lightroom-classic/lightroom-classic-problem-when-using-copy-and-paste-or-sync-in-develop-module-with-wb-changed/5f94581872a09d5d5ced2f09?commentId=5f94c75635f40c3a18c91363 

https://feedback.photoshop.com/conversations/lightroom-classic/lightroom-classic-problem-when-using-copy-and-paste-or-sync-in-develop-module-with-wb-changed/5f94581872a09d5d5ced2f09?commentId=5f94c75635f40c3a18c91363 

Thanks, John. Only fixes in Library mode obviously. Hopefully, Adobe gets onto this ASAP, it is a pretty huge problem for this software to not work on it's most basic editing, WB. I've been using Lightroom professionally for 13 years, and this is first time I've ever encounted this problem.

"Only fixes in Library mode obviously."

To make sure we're on the same page: It does require you to switch to Library mode, but the changes you make with Quick Develop will still be visible when you go back to Develop.

Plus note: this is not an acceptable solution. The accepted solution would be to not have this problem at all.

Fully agree that the bug should be fixed.

Actually, I can narrow down the issues to any WB setting that is selected in the drop-down WB menu, from both Develop AND Library modes. WB needs to be manually selected in for Synchronising to apply. All other settings in Synchronisation apply/work when Synchronising, except for WB. Hope that makes sense.

@Stewart Ross ... it is frustrating ...  the "work around" I am using is simple ... for example I click on the desired adobe wb preset and then just move it by 1 ie. for daylight change it to 5501 and then it sync's or copies as normal. Still would prefer to have it fixed sooner rather than later.

Note that if you use Quick Panel to change WB to Daylight while in Library Loupe view, only the current photo gets changed. (That's a general property of Loupe view.) You either have to be in Grid view or use the Auto Sync toggle.

To narrow down the issue, here all the ways I successfully set multiple selected photos to WB: Daylight (tested with multiple D850 raws set to Camera Standard, LR 10.0, Mac OS 10.15.7):

Develop, Auto Sync:
1. Go to Develop.
2. Turn on Auto Sync by clicking the toggle to the left of the Sync bottom in the lower-right corner.
3. Change WB to Daylight.
4. Turn off Auto Sync.

Develop, right-click copy/paste:
1. Go to Develop.
2. Change WB to Daylight.
3. Right-click the filmstrip thumbnail and do Develop Settings > Copy Settings; check White Balance.
4. Right-click the thumbnail and do Develop Settings > Paste Settings.

Library Grid view, Quick Develop:
1. Go to Library grid view (type "g"; not Loupe view)
2. In the Quick Develop panel, change White Balance to Daylight.

Library Loupe view, Quick Develop
1. Go to Library Loupe view (type "e")
2. Turn on Auto Sync by clicking the toggle to the left of the Sync button in the lower-right corner.
3. In the Quick Develop panel, change White Balance to Daylight.
4. Turn off Auto Sync.

Library Loupe and Grid view, with the first photo's WB already set to Daylight, right-click copy/paste:
1. Go to Library Loupe or Grid view.
2. Right-click the first photo's filmstrip thumbnail and do Develop Settings > Copy Settings; check White Balance.
3. Right-click the thumbnail and do Develop Settings > Paste Settings.

@Ken Miracle Yep, I use the same work around. It slows my efficiency when editing hundreds of images.

I feel your pain ... I am retired but I still know time = money.

Yeah, something isn't right on this end either (Mac OS). 

I DO see the WB label change from say As Shot to Fluorescent but I don't see the color appearance update. I'll file a bug report. 

What's happening with a paste is the actual WB menu gets updated but not the image. If you actually select the WB from said menu, it works. So yes, it's a bug and Adobe is now aware of it. Good catch! 

Hi Michael,

Yes, we are aware of this issue, and it will be addressed in the future release.

As a workaround you can use 'Auto Sync'

Thanks a lot. 

Thanks,

Arjun

The new Lightroom Classic 10.0 Mac wont sync the whitebalance settings in the develope module. The checkbox is on for syncing whitebalance, but nothing happens with the rest of the selected images when applying the settings. This is quite annoying …

Hi Kenn,

We are aware of this and are working on fixing it.

It'll be addressed in the future release.

Thanks,
Arjun

Hey there, just letting you know this isn't limited to the Mac version, getting the same thing here on Windows, just updated last night, regretting it right now...

It updates the WB name to whatever you copied, Daylight, Custom etc but doesn't change the values Temp and Tint thus no change to the image itself.

Hi Jason,

Yes, we are aware of that.

As a workaround you can use 'Auto Sync' 

Thanks,

Arjun

When copying the White Balance 'Flash' and pasting it on another photo in the Develop module the label 'Flash' is pasted, but the values are not pasted.

Pasting custom White Balance values does work.

I confirm this behaviour. If you chose any of the WB preset and copy paste the white balance you will paste the preset name but not the value. Except for personal values

It's a known and reported bug Adobe is aware of and will fix.

Arjun_Haarith, are you aware the Presets BUG from version 11 is BACK?  This is beyond frustrating!  

I made this video several versions ago, and it was fixed and now it is BACK!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gOiOzjgr6s

Why conversations get merged: https://feedback.photoshop.com/conversations/lightroom-classic/lightroom-auto-import-to-folders-organized-by-date/5f5f44f14b561a3d422ab0ba?commentId=5f5f48984b561a3d422bdf45 

@Arjun re: "We are aware of this and are working on fixing it. It'll be addressed in the future release." In future a release? How long will this be? For a wedding and portrait photographers, it almost renders the software useless, as it taking 5 times longer to edit a complete wedding.

Well, I've always wanted to try Capture One, looks like now is the time!

I confirm the same issue happening on my my imac  with LRC10 on catalina. Is there a fix in sight yet.  Very frustrating

Copy/paste WB is a known bug and fixed for next release.

This thread is being merged into an authoritative thread for better tracking and response. 

Known bug, fixed, you'll see it in the next Release. 

Any idea when that is? I'm losing hours over here with the backlog of edits I need to get done this week. 

Not allowed to say. In the meantime can you try Sync Settings.

Why conversations get merged: https://feedback.photoshop.com/conversations/lightroom-classic/lightroom-auto-import-to-folders-organized-by-date/5f5f44f14b561a3d422ab0ba?commentId=5f5f48984b561a3d422bdf45

While waiting for the bug to be fixed, see the first reply at the top of this thread for alternative methods for copying settings (including white balance) that don't involve more clicks.

Sorry John.  I have no luck with your method of copy and paste with WB.  The name changes but the values do not.  Maybe I've missed something with your workaround..??

Which of the five methods did you try?

I retested all five methods, and the two right-click/copy-paste methods didn't work this time; I must have botched the initial testing. I've updated my reply above.

However, the Develop Auto Sync and Quick Develop methods continue to work, repeatedly, changing both the WB name and the sliders.  If they're not working for you, let us know the precise steps you're following, the camera model, and the file type (raw, JPEG, etc.)

It's a known bug and fixed for next release. 

LrC 10.0 macOS 10.15.7 I can't repeat this error! Everything works well for me.

This thread is being merged into an authoritative thread for better tracking and response.