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390 Points

Mon, Oct 23, 2017 10:12 PM

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Lightroom Classic: Overlay is very hard to see (Crop/Transform)

After updating to Lightroom Classic, the crop overlay lines are thinner and lighter than before. Can't see them on most photos. 

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518 Points

3 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Crop Overlay grid IS STILL VIRTUALLY INVISIBLE.

I noticed a variety of topics in here and in the Lighroom forum going back as far as eight YEARS complaining about the very faint, unconfigurable crop overlay grid...  And it's never been very good, but in the more recent versions, the grid is virtually invisible and unusable.
Most recent topic appears to be about six months old, at which time the official answer was "I'll have engineering look at it"...  That had to be at least a couple releases old, and in 7.3 it still appears to be invisible and unable to be configured to be brighter and a contrasting color.  Am I missing some control(s) that allow users to do something about this problem or has it still not be improved to make it more usable?

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518 Points

3 years ago

I had a reply from Rikk Flohr asking about a change to monitor resolution before the new topic I created was merged/closed.  There haven't been any changes in monitors or resolution in quite a while, and I don't RECALL having this much trouble seeing the overlay grid, even on images with a dark grey or black background in versions prior to 7.1 or maybe 7.0 (I haven't needed to edit any portrait images with backdrops since last year). 

Question same as original - am I missing controls or settings that allow users to do something to ameliorate this problem 'cause changing exposure to make the very faint gride or activating a visualizer or other kludges aren't real useful when I'm cropping, adjusting, straightening several hundred images at a time.

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116 Points

I would say from my comment 3 months ago - it's now invisible. While I was able to faintly see black lines before, I can't see ANY now. (And I'm not able to muddle with monitor settings - this shouldn't require any legwork on my end to fix.) This issue just keeps getting worse.

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David, sorry about that. When a thread is merged, the subsequent comments are cut off- but to answer your question. There are currently no controls to control brightness, thickness, opacity, or color for the overlay grids in the crop tool.  We do have an open issue filed for this but there currently isn't an ETA for a fix. 
 

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370 Points

Agree very hard to see the rule of thirds and other overlay lines even with a darker subject. lines are way too fine, esp on high end screens

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92 Points

2 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom Classic CC: transform vertical/horizontal lines too dark.

New LR Classic CC 7.3.1 darkened the vertical/horizontal axis lines to black from white. Nearly impossible to see in low light images. How can this be reversed? Raised this issue twice with Adobe and came to the conclusion it will not be fixed until the next version comes out. Please raise awareness of this issue.

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2 years ago

Lightroom Classic CC Version 7.4 was released earlier today and should have a fix for this issue. Give it a try and let us know if you continue to see this problem. Thank you for your patience!
 

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390 Points

The lines are thicker as long as the USE GRAPHICS PROCESSOR is turned OFF. When I turn it ON the lines are faint again — except for the swirl option.

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I see the same issue on Windows 7 with LR Classic 7.4 with 'Use Graphics Processor' checked. This is clearly (pun) not fixed on Windows 7 systems!

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Not fixed here too on Windows 10 with 'Use Graphics Processor' checked.

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186 Points

I just checked mine, GP on and off, I didn't see any change, look ok here; WIN10.

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186 Points

2 years ago

Thanks, much better!

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92 Points

2 years ago

So this is the issue:

With the Graphics Processor Acceleration disabled (turned off) the hor/vert grid is white = excellent; however, the work flow speed will be reduced in this current setting. My request is to have the GPA enabled with the grid in an off white pattern, not the current black. The current LR v7.4 only enlarged the grid pattern. LR needs to create the off white color grid.
  

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186 Points

2 years ago

Very odd, just came back to read this, I tried this overlay this am and seem to work ok....now, I can not get the grid overlay, greyed out. Ideas?

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2 years ago

Based on your comments, and my own testing I am going to reopen the issue.  

With GPU off, it is working as expected.
With GPU on (and fresh driver from nVidia today) it is not. Too faint and the Fibonacci spiral is not rendered correctly. Thanks for your feedback.
 

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62 Points

2 years ago

For me the best solution would be to have a choice of colors, even if they are just the primaries plus white and black. Setting line thickness would also be useful. What I find odd is that the crop overlay is thin and faint, but the Loop overlay grid is almost too bright and thick. Having them both the same, with total control of color, line thickness and grid scale would be a big improvement.