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Lightroom Classic: Keyboard shortcut tutor mode

I wish there was a tutor mode you could enable where when you click menu items, it would display somewhere what a shortcut for it is – maybe a colored highlight panel somwhere that’s obvious.   Picking through menus is slow.    Along with that, I’d like the Help to include ALL keyboard shortcuts and a special section added to explain the special hidden menu changes which get exposed by holding ALT etc., at least tell us what all those special keys or tricks are. We’re paying for a product, we shouldn’t have to scour the net for all the helper industry people who compile this stuff as tips; it should be documented in what we pay for straight up.

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(That's a MacOS app if I recall correctly, which is nice for Mac users.   I'm on Windows 10._

I want the product to include it in its own help, controlled and populated by the product group - not requiring some other 3rd party app.    I'm sure users in other languages would like it internationalized for their keyboards as well.

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It has all the key commands visible no? 
What other software product (Adobe or otherwise) provides what you ask for? 
Simple solution, zero engineering (big or small):
https://makeawebsitehub.com/adobe-lightroom-keyboard-shortcuts-cheat-sheet/

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" We’re paying for a product, we shouldn’t have to scour the net for all the helper industry people who compile this stuff as tips; it should be documented in what we pay for straight up."

That's my point. 

It should be part of the product documentation directly from the vendor.   They're collecting a monthly fee for the product and it's reasonable to include and maintain it accurately in what they ship under license.


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Yes, we pay for a product and features that are questionably useful cost even more in engineering costs and lack of new features for making better images.  That's my point. 
They are not collecting a monthly fee. They are charging a monthly subscription to use their software. And indeed, every key command in the application is easily available. That's my point too. 

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Are you an Adobe Employee ?  If not, I'd prefer someone in the group itself respond from here out. 

Thanks.

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I've been an Alpha tester for Adobe since 1992. So I kind of have a good idea how this stuff works. 
You made your request, fine. I don't suggest you hold your breath waiting for it and I've provided you solutions until your request is 'provided' <g>.
You might ask or request Adobe, why does the SAME key command do differing functions in Lightroom Classic vs. Lightroom CC. That's kind of annoying IMHO. 
You want an Adobe employee to tell you what they are and are not going to implement in future versions? NOT going to happen. 

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Does [Cmd/Ctrl]+[ / ] help? It is Module sensitive. 
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A picture is worth $1000 <g>.
Good call! 

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So here's a request Rikk: as we move from module to module, that overlay update to reflect the commands in the currently visible module. That's not the case (and going way back to LR5, same behavior). Gotta wonder why the key command overlay for Library remains when you're not in that module. It's not a bug. Been around awhile. So what's the reason??? 

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Sounds like a feature request, Andrew... I'd actually never tried to use the interface without dismissing the overlay. 
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Me either, until you posted and I was futzing around with it. It's odd but not a hill worth dieing on. 
Unless is a bug.....

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If the overlay were movable, I would think so - but it is designed to be KBSC Reveal/Hide so I am guessing unconsidered functionality?
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( I've been using LR since version 1.   Just for context - I'm also not much of a PS user - just never went there and I consider the 2 separate products.  I've also managed a fairly involved software product  development test group of up to 27 developers - coding and user experience levels. )

1 - I've been aware of the screen.  It's nice.  It's also incomplete...there are many key sequences out there in develop module,  only some of which are shown there...

2 - Other things that aren't on it  - a few examples - the side panel names on left and right, there are command sequences you can use to get to them - but they don't hint to you when you hover over them the way you get the hints when you hover over the Crop tool, for instance.   Hovering over the panel collapse / expand arrows for instance doesn't hint you the keyboard shortcut of closing that panel set (on either side of the image window).   It can be beefed up to be far more complete on an item by item basis on-the-fly as you mouse around.

The mouse-over hint data (if that's all your menu system can handle) isn't bad - it's just incomplete and should include the different module names (Library, Develop etc... with their shortcut hinted...)

It's incomplete.  It's hard to read sometimes too - it would improve experience if you could enable a tutor mode which opens a small panel which shows the hint in larger text to read.

This is what I'm talking about - it's incomplete in the ctrl-/ and many items don't hint.  It would be useful to have it display larger in a way you can turn on and off...

This is a good college intern/coop job to canvas the application and note where these things could be beefed up.

Thanks Rikk.