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Sat, Feb 17, 2018 2:16 AM

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Lightroom Classic: How can I get 700+ hidden/disabled tone curves to be visible when presets and syncing aren't working?

I recently changed my camera defaults to include a new custom profile for my 5d Mark iv images and what I thought were zeroed out settings.  However, I didn't realize that the image I used when setting the new default had a hidden (disabled/toggled off) Tone Curve.  And then I imported 700+ images and started adjusting them for hours.  I actually wanted the tone curve to be linear in my default, so that I could adjust the images as needed with a tone curve, and as such it's not necessarily ruining my pictures by being off. The problem is that I'd like to add a tone curve now, but all the sudden I am not able to fix it the way I normally would (before the last 2 updates).  Normally I would just turn the Tone Curve ON for one image and sync the rest of them to that.  But syncing and presets aren't working for Tone Curve's visibility state (on/off).  They apply an image's settings or the settings of a preset (change the tone curve, for example to medium contrast), but they are NOT changing the settings for the tone curve visibility (toggling the on/off switch).  EVERY OTHER PANEL syncs both the adjustment AND the on/off state of the adjustment based on the preset or the image doing the syncing.  But not the tone curve.  And, of course, right now.  It sounds ironic that I'd have this problem right when it stops working, but it's because of this not syncing issue that I'm in this boat and didn't realize my image still HAD a hidden tone curve and wasn't synced back to linear.  

The Tone curve visibility problem continues to snapshots not saving correctly when the tone curve was in the "OFF" state, but I found a workaround for that and it wouldn't have helped me get out of this mess. (FYI, workaround is just updating the snapshot with the correct (off) settings again and the off state will stick).

If I hadn't spent so much time sorting through, rating, adjusting exposure, wb, and etc., I'd probably think it was faster just to delete them all and reimport them.  All I can think of doing is to manually go through and switch the tone curve to "on" and then I'd be able to apply the necessary tone curve and be able to sync it again.  But that's a pain and someone may have figured out a better way.  If not, it definitely needs to be fixed, so if anything maybe this will enlighten someone who can fix it.

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3 years ago

Can you select them all, enable AutoSync (if disabled), toggle the Tone Curve visibility of and on, then switch AutoSync off?

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I just tried this, and it doesn't seem to work.

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3 years ago

This trivial bug has been present since at least LR 3 and ignored by Adobe:
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/pv2012_snapshots_not_saving_tonecurveenable_s...

See this post in that topic for a general workaround for presets:
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/pv2012_snapshots_not_saving_tonecurveenable_s...

You can use that workaround to create a preset that just enables the tone curve, without changing any other tone-curve setting.  Make a file "Enable Tone Curve.lrtemplate" containing the following contents:

s = {
    id = "328361D5-2F20-47D5-B748-BF9B514879FD",
    internalName = "Untitled Preset",
    title = "Enable Tone Curve",
    type = "Develop",
    value = {
        settings = {
            EnableToneCurve = true,
        },
        uuid = "A5AADC8C-C57A-4646-8498-62363DA78B27",
    },
    version = 0,
}
Place that file in the Develop Presets subfolder of the Lightroom presets folder. You can find that folder by doing Preferences > Presets > Show Lightroom Presets Folder.

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...and then restart LR.

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3 years ago

That works to enable the tone curve, but it still doesn’t sync to other photos once created... which in turn doesn’t make it any easier than just clicking the switch and moving to the next photo 700+ times. Oh well. I learned my lesson and once I finish fixing my mess I don’t think I’ll be disabling the tone curve ever again...

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3 years ago

"How can I get 700+ hidden/disabled tone curves to be visible"

In Library, select all 700+ photos and use Quick Develop to apply the Enable Tone Curve preset:



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3 years ago

I was hopeful, but that still only changed the first image. I went ahead and just clicked on the switch to set the tone curve back to visible, but if anyone has any other thoughts I’m really curious!

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3 years ago

Make sure you're in Library grid view and you've selected all the photos before applying the preset in Quick Develop.  Here's a video showing the Enable Tone Curve applied to a batch of photos:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9qswe4jze2gu98u/Enable-Tone-Curve.2018.02.19.mov?dl=0

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3 years ago

Oh man!  Thanks for the video and clear directions!  I only wish I paid more attention to your first posts' pictures in your pictures, because I can see now that you were in grid view.  When I tried it, I was in library mode, but NOT grid view.  I should have known better!!   At least now I don't have to be so worried about hiding the tone curve, because there IS a quick way out of that mess!

Thanks, John!!  I appreciate you taking the time to show me!

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Glad you got it working. The difference between Loupe and Grid view continually trips people up.