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Lightroom Classic: Editing raw file in PS from LR loses profile

[See here for how to reproduce the bug and an easy workaround:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/conversations/lightroom-classic/lightroom-classic-editing-cr3-files-in-ps-from-lr-lose-color-profile/5f9043b035f40c2520b9e964?commentId=5fb3495d014b4c3c8a0da305 -- John Ellis]

Editing a picture in Photoshop 2021 from within LR 10.0 makes the color profile disappear and the image loses all it's vibrancy... Any idea how to fix that? Top image is what I see in LR. Bottom is how it shows up in Photoshop... 

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4 months ago

[Here's a concise synthesis of previous posts and my own testing]

When you edit a raw photo in Photoshop that has a creative profile containing a LUT, Photoshop loses the profile.  A workaround is to do Metadata > Save Metadata To File right before editing in Photoshop, or alternatively, set the option Catalog Settings > Metadata > Automatically Write Changes Into XMP.

To reproduce:

1. Make sure Photoshop is not running.

2. In LR, uncheck the option Catalog Settings > Metadata > Automatically Write Changes Into XMP. 

3. In LR, import the creative profile My LUT Creative Profile (a creative profile containing a LUT):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pgooisxu70f4tg6/My%20LUT%20Creative%20Profile.xmp?dl=0

4. Choose a raw file and delete any associated sidecar from disk.

5. Edit the raw in Develop and apply the profile My LUT Creative Profile.

6. Do Edit In Adobe Photoshop 2021.

7. Observe that the profile has not been applied in Photoshop.

The bug doesn't occur with creative profiles (.xmp) not containing a LUT, nor does it occur with camera profiles (.dcp).

See here for a likely explanation of the root cause: 

https://feedback.photoshop.com/conversations/lightroom-classic/lightroom-classic-editing-raw-file-in-ps-from-lr-loses-profile/5f9043b035f40c2520b9e964?commentId=5fb4278fca9d527a59c46d60&replyId=5fb4296810452c0fd21b75c8 

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Thank you @John_R_Ellis !  Concise description and just confirmed that the save metadata to file just before entering PS works for me.

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@John_R_Ellis When you edit a raw photo in Photoshop that has a non-Adobe profile, Photoshop loses the profile.

DCP Camera Profiles? I'm not seeing this with my own custom (non Adobe) profiles which is all I use.

Author “Color Management for Photographers"

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@andrew_rodney - you are lucky...the rest of us are seeing it all the time...  :-(  here is a video of it:

https://youtu.be/c2L6hyEyT10

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I've got that profile and yes, it exhibited the issue in your video. None the less, this doesn't happen on this end with ALL non Adobe DCP camera profiles. So the question is, what's wrong/different with that profile? 

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@andrew_rodney I haven't a clue what might be different about that profile.  It also happens with another third party profile I have and looks like @John_R_Ellis also reproduced it with a LUT?

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4 months ago

Same issue here on latest Photoshop 22, Lightroom 10 and Camera Raw 13.
Camera: Canon R5

Seems Lightroom doesn't create a TIF file for Photoshop to use, but instead Photoshop loads the CR3 file.


Restored the previous version of Photoshop 21.2.4 which correctly creates a tif file.

Hopefully this gets sorted soon.

Update:
Color is only lost when using color fidelity profile, when I use Adobe Color or another custom profile there is no loss in color in photoshop

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4 months ago

"Seems Lightroom doesn't create a TIF file for Photoshop to use, but instead Photoshop loads the CR3 file."

Actually, that is how it always works. Lightroom instructs Photoshop to open the raw file (via Camera Raw), with the Lightroom edits. Because of the latter, the ACR dialog is suppressed. Lightroom will only render a TIF file itself when there is a version mismatch between Lightroom and ACR.

Here's a workaround: Open the file as a smart object. Then you can invoke ACR by double clicking the smart object. Switch to another profile and back.

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

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4 months ago

I am having the exact same problem.  I cannot use Lightroom and Photoshop together like this for CR3 (Canon R5) files!  Help, Adobe!

Lightroom Classic 10.0

Camera Raw 13.0

PhotoShop 2021 22.0.0

Camera Raw Plugin 13.0.0.610

Lightroom:
Photoshop: 

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Hi,

Were you using any custom camera profile ? 

Thanks,
Arjun

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Yes I was.  I have the Canon R5 and Adobe does not have any camera specific color profiles available (hint, hint...).  I was using custom profiles to make up for that gap.

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@arjun_haarith Note that the problem went completely away once I used Johan's suggestion once.  In subsequent invocations, I was able to open the CR3 files from Lightroom normally in Photoshop and the custom profile was there.  

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@dprosk have you tried selecting 'Automatically write changes into XMP' in 'Catalog Settings' in Lightroom? The color profile works when for me exporting to Photoshop.

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@foodieadam Yes.  I tried that the other day and it didn't help.  I shut it off and removed the .xmp files just to save my poor backup system from dealing with thousands of new little files.  However, I tried again today with ctrl-S to create .xmp files just for the image I wanted to open in PS before I opened from LR.  Didn't help.  :-(

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4 months ago

If you aren't following Johan's suggestions,

A screenshot of your Preferences>External Editor settings would be helpful here. 

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@Rikk  Here you go!  Thanks.

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@Rikk I hadn't yet tried Johan's workaround.  That does seem to work.

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@Rikk  Another strange thing...  After using Johan's workaround, now images are opening as expected even without using Smart Object.  As if the problem never existed!

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It may have caused things to reset. Run it for a day or two and let us know if you see it again. 

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Will do.  Thanks.

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Just following up to report that the problem has remained resolved after using Johan's suggestion one time.

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And a further update...the problem is BACK with the most recent Camera Raw update as of a couple of days ago.  The Johan workaround still works for a single image, but no longer "solves" the problem for subsequent images.  Something is definitely going on with the ACR component in PhotoShop.

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I am giving up for now.  I downgraded to ACR 12 and everything seems fine.  I hope the next update to ACR 13 fixes this though!

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4 months ago

Please help, I have this problem

While exporting from Lightroom to Photoshop, the color profile (not Adobe, mine) are NOT preserved, so I have to export MANUALLY the tiff all the time and continue to work on that. I think it is a bug, I have this after installing Photoshop V22 and Lightroom V10

Os: Mac OSX

External edit setting: Tiff, ProPhoto RBG, 16 bits, no compression 

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Lightroom Classic 10: Color profile NOT embedded in exporting to Photoshop V22

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Please do not post the same question twice. I deleted the duplicate post.

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

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This is indeed a bug and AFAIK Adobe is looking into it. In the meantime you could use this workaround: Open the image from Lightroom in Photoshop as smart object. In Photoshop, double click on the smart object to activate Camera Raw. In Camera Raw toggle the profile, i.e. choose another profile and then choose your profile again. Now Photoshop should render the image correctly. If the kind of edits you want to do can't be done on a smart object, then you can now flatten the image to turn the smart object into a normal background layer.

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

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Sorry about it, Marco

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@JohanElzenga thank you very much

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I have the same problem here

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Hello,

I have attached custom profiles to my .CR3 raw files (Canon R5). When I right click the raw file in LR Classic (10.0) and choose edit in Photoshop (22.0.0) the raw file will open in Photoshop but without the custom profile settings. Opening the Camera Filter in Photoshop (22.0.0) reveals that the custom profiles are not available in ACR (13.0). It won't allow a re-import of the profiles at this stage (Error message: profiles already installed).

When I close Photoshop (22.0.0) , re-open Photoshop (22.0.0) and select the same raw file from the Open File menu the custom   the custom profiles are available in Camera Raw and can be selected and applied to the raw file.

So something gets "lost in translation" between Lightroom Classic (10.0) and Photoshop (22.0.0). All this worked fine in the previous version (9.4 and 21.0 respectivey) so I can attach the issue the latest updates.

Note: when I have successful applied the custom profile in Photoshop (22.0.0) and then try to apply the Camera Raw Filter in the edit process on a layer (background, copy etc.) the custom profiles are once more not available.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Lightroom Classic (10.0.) - custom profile information lost in Photoshop (22.0.0)

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What happens if you Export that image as a TIF In LrC and then open that TIF file in Ps?

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@Just_Shoot_Me The export as a TIF works fine with the custom preset applied and visible upon opening in PS. As I have mentioned when I start PS (22.0.0) and open the raw file manually I can select the custom profile in the open file dialog within Camera Raw and the profile is applied correctly. However once opened the Camera Raw Filter won't show those profiles anymore. But the main problems is that during the handover from LR Classic (10.0) to PS (22.0.0) via the "Edit in Photoshop..."-option the profile gets lost.

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Have you sent this RAW file to Ps as a Smart Object and then tried to the ACR Filter to see if the custom profile is there?

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Yes, it does not make a difference if it's send the "normal" way or as a Smart Object. Results are the same. I know it's difficult to explain but as mentioned when the raw file is transferred from LR to PS and you open the ACR Filter the custom profiles are not available. If you select to reinstall the filters within ACR Filter there is an error message that the custom profiles are already installed (but they are nowhere visible).

BUT...as described above (and it does not matter if LR is open or closed)...when you open PS, select open file, select any .CR3 raw file that matches those custom profiles, the file opens within ACR and the custom profiles are available, selectable and can be applied. The file opens within PS and the profile applied. If you select the Camera Raw Filter once more (and it does not matter if it's just the background layer, a duplicate etc.) the custom profiles no longer show up. Only the Adobe standard profiles.

I just reverted back to LR Classic 9.4 and Photoshop 21.1.x with ACR 12.3 and all is working fine (as it was before the updated) with the custom profiles transferred from LR to PS during the "Edit in PS" dialog. The custom profiles are also available in the Camera Raw Filter.

So I can clearly pin this on the updates to 10.0 and 22.0.

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This is a known bug and discussed in another thread aready. Adobe is working on it.

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

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@JohanElzenga Thank you for the info. In the meantime I've found the other thread. Using the Smart Object workaround does not work all the time (sometimes the custom profiles are available, sometimes not?) and I have a feeling that there's a color cast but I might be wrong. Anyway...it would be good if Adobe would issue a fix as this is a serious problem imho.

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Hello - whenever I edit a picture in LR 10 and I use a custom color profile (NOT the adobe standard profiles) and parse the picture to PS 22.0.0 with "Edit in ...", the picture has lost the color profile completely. The first pic was graded with a custom color profile only and after "Edit in Photoshop 2012" the picture shows up as you can see in the second pic.

The only workaround that helps right now, is to downgrade camera raw to V12 - but this can't be the answer for long. Any idea or solution?

 
Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Photo looses color (profile) after edited in LR 10 and parsed to PS 22.0.0

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still no fix, but you can do a regular Export as a workaround.

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An easy workaround: Do Metadata > Save Metadata To File right before editing in Photoshop, or alternatively, set the option Catalog Settings > Metadata > Automatically Write Changes Into XMP.

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4 months ago

In LRClassic 2020, when i "edit in Photoshop" any R5 files with a Color Fidelity Profile, the colors are incorrect and desaturated in Photoshop. If however I export to hard drive first, the file is correctly exported and the colors are also correct. It's almost as if no profile is applied if i "edit in Photoshop"

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Lightroom Classic: - R5 files Edit in PS colors incorrect with Color Fidelity profiles

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What do you have set for Color Settings in Photoshop with respect to RGB Working Space and Policies? 

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@andrew_rodney 

working space is ProPhoto, and preserve for all. To be clear, this only happens with R5 files with CF profiles in LR, does not happen with Adobe Color, or any other file/profile combination.

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Desaturated with ProPhoto RGB sounds like at least in PS, color management is off and maybe it's your display profile. 

First, try disabling GPU in the preferences (Preformance tab). Any better?
If not, recalibrate and build a new ICC display profile, the old one might be corrupted.
If you are using software/hardware for this task, be sure the software is set to build a matrix not LUT profile, Version 2 not Version 4 profile.
If turning OFF GPU works, it's a GPU bug and you need to contact the manufacturer or find out if there's an updated driver for it. 

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Hi Andrew, thanks for your comments, but unfortunately i'm way ahead of these first steps. Tried all of the above, disabling the GPU on both LR and PS, verifying, remaking v2 profiles (v4 doesnt really play nicely in all circumstances) etc, etc. 

It is indeed a bug in LR. You can solve/test the issue by ENABLING auto write changes to xmp files. That somehow solves the issue for the time being. The maker of the Color Fidelity Profiles got back to me that another user figured out the workaround.

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Best to export a DNG with all edits AND profile so other's can test. I don't have such a document on this end to see what might be going on. 

Why do you not have auto-write XMP on? 

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The reason i don't have autowrite on is because i frequently select 10's or 100's of images and then repeatedly make batch corrections on a set, and i find that with autowrite on, it slows down my process. I prefer to select all and CMD+S at the completion of a project to generate and then move all of the small xmp's to my servers.

From the Color Fidelity maker Colin, It's his understanding that Adobe is aware of this issue and it will be fixed in the next update.

 

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4 months ago

Hello, i have the same problem with Lightroom 10 and Photoshop 2021.
I tried Johan's method but it only worked when i keep photoshop open and only if i use the same custom camera profile on other photos.

When i change to other profile or close and reopen photoshop, it happen again (even with the same photo and custom camera profile).

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@Rikk hello sir, any information that this kind of "bug" will be fix with the next update?

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4 months ago

I find that by selecting 'Automatically write changes into XMP' in 'Catalog Settings' in Lightroom, the color profile works when exporting to Photoshop

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YES!!! Thank you. It worked like it supposed to be.
But i wonder if that auto write to xmp then when i open the raw file in other application, will it auto apply the setting as well...

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Hmm... after research it for awhile. Lightroom default should have saved the settings to catalogue. The option "Automatically write changes into XMP" should be used only if you want to share the RAW file to someone and the setting along with it.

For normally workflow like LR > PS, should leave it uncheck for better performance.
And this must be the Photoshop 2021 "bug" or something, because i test with PS 2020 there's no problem with custom camera profile...

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I have exactly the same issue - and I "solved" it by downgrading to camera raw V12. So from my pov it should be an issue with the actual camera raw version. 

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I just did the same.  Downgrade to ACR 12 and everything seems fine.  I hope the next update to ACR 13 fixes this though!

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4 months ago

I noticed the following related issue.

When importing CR3 file (from Canon EOS R5) to LR I apply a custom profile (but also happens with Adobe) and when shifting from Develop module to Library the histogram increase about 1-stop... The exported JPEG files also do not match my editing. You can notice the exposition variation on this LQ gif below.

I don't see this issue with CR3 from EOS R camera files.

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@ricardomoura What version of LR? There was an issue in older versions rendering newer CR3 files, it's been fixed. If you still see this in the latest version, does it change if you disable GPU in preferences? 

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Left image - Lightroom, Canon R5 photo, CRAW CR3, Third party color profile applied

Middle image - Photoshop "Edit in Photoshop 2021" from LR, note that color profile is gone, color profile not visible in ACR, importing color profile fails saying it is already loaded.

Right image - Photoshop "Open as Smart Object in Photoshop", double clicking layer to enter ACR does show the color profile as being present, along with other third party profiles that are loaded in Lightroom

What's going on with ACR?  It never used to do this...



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I tried with a RAW (not CRAW) image and it has the same broken behavior.

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@dprosk Let's take this step by step and try to come to a resolution. 

First, there are profiles in LR/ACR which control the rendering of the image. Camera profiles as an example you pick in the browser. What did you select? 

Next, when that image appears outside ACR/LR, it is rendered and described with a totally different kind of profile. 

When you Edit in Photoshop, you pick that profile in the preferences; what is it? Then, please show us the Color Settings Preferences you have setup in Photoshop. Hopefully everything is set to Preserve and all check boxes on, like this:

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@andrew_rodney Settings below!

I showed the profile in the LR screen shot.  I used CF Landscape V4 in that case to demonstrate because it is pretty vivid and easy to see if it is applied or not.  That is a third party profile from Color Fidelity (since the R5 is not well rendered by the Adobe defaults...hint, hint.)  :-)


Any other information I can provide?  Happy to!

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The color settings look good meaning whatever you asked for for a color space in Edit In pref's are honored. Not sure but it would be useful to know. 

Anyway, it's probably a GPU or profile issue. First, try disabling GPU in the preferences (Performance pref's of LR and Photoshop). Any better?
If not, recalibrate and build a new ICC display profile, the old one might be corrupted.
If you are using software/hardware for this task, be sure the software is set to build a matrix not LUT profile, Version 2 not Version 4 profile.
If turning OFF GPU works, it's a GPU bug and you need to contact the manufacturer or find out if there's an updated driver for it. 

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@andrew_rodney I turned off the GPU in both LR and PS - no change.  I didn't expect that to help since the behavior changed with the latest giant release of LR/PS and then changed again this week with the ACR update and I've had the same GPU the whole time.  :-)

Also, no GPU issue would explain why the custom profiles do not appear in the grid/list in PS ACR, but they do in LR and also in PS ACR when opened as Smart Object.  Something is definitely wrong in the ACR component...

I am not building these profiles - I bought them.  I have had the same issue with profiles from two different sources.  They are working absolutely fine in LR and also in PS when opened as Smart Object, so I can't believe that they are corrupted in any way.  Again, behavior changed with the big update and again (in a different way) in the most recent ACR update, so I don't believe the problem lies in the profiles themselves.

Anything else you want me to check?  I already sent in example files to @arjun_haarith - have you all been able to reproduce this behavior?

Thanks!

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I am not building these profiles - I bought them.

I'm referring to rebuilding your DISPLAY profiles. 

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Never even heard of display profiles before.  What are they and how do I go about doing that?  Thanks!  (sorry for dumb question - if it is a dumb question...)

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Is this what you are referring to?

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You are using Windows?

https://pcmonitors.info/articles/using-icc-profiles-in-windows/

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Yes. Are you using software and a calibration device to make the BenQ profile?

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No.  I have never dipped my toes into monitor calibration.  Right now I am trying switching between different color profiles to see if using a different one changes the behavior of this issue.  Hang on a few minutes, I'll report back what I find.  Windows, yes.  Thanks for the link.

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@andrew_rodney  I tried switching between the sRGB and BenQ ICC profiles (rebooting between - not sure that was strictly required), but it didn't make any difference.  I do appreciate that link though, in general.  Something else I need to learn about!

I'm not that surprised that the system setting wouldn't solve the issue of the ACR in Photoshop not showing the embedded camera profile though?  But better to rule things out!

Any other ideas?

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what type of hardware are you using?

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@andrew_rodney   Specs attached

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Sorry, Mac guy but is this a Surface?

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No.  It is a gaming-class desktop PC (tower) put together by my son for me specifically for photo work.  All high quality, high performance components, not running over-clocked or anything like that though.  Haven't ever had a lick of trouble with it in 2+ years and it runs LR and PS very efficiently.

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i don't think this is a PC setting or monitor profile problem. Because this issue doesn't happen with Photoshop CC 2020. With the same working color space setting as 2021.

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And this mismatch color only happen when you use LR preset with custome Camera Profile i think. It work normal when you switch to Adobe Camera Profile (Adobe Color, Adobe Portrait... etc)

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So it would be useful to take such a raw and suspect profile, export as DNG, upload so we could see how it behaves in LR/ACR/Photoshop. 

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@andrew_rodney Hi.  I'm happy to upload the image.  In fact I sent one to @arjun_haarith in email, along with the .xmp.  The profile I purchased so I'm hesitant to send that without getting permission from the person who created it.  Why don't you buy it from Color Fidelity.  it is only $15.  if you would like me to upload another image, please give me instructions exactly what you would like and I'll do that.  I really do appreciate your help!

@neodes24 Exactly - I'm pretty sure it is not a problem with my computer or settings or anything like that.  It has to be ACR component in PS.  All things point to that so far.

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Best to export as DNG then profile is wrapped inside with XMP. 

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@andrew_rodney I tried that and unsurprisingly that worked.  However, when I opened the dng, I got a warning message below.  Is that a clue??  In the other attached image below, left is LR, you can see the profile applied in the develop module.  Right side is PS with the .cr3 file "Open for Editing in PhotoShop 2021" and the dng file opened directly from PS.  You can clearly see the profile is not applied in PS for the .cr3 and it is for the .dng.

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Set color policies to PRESERVE then you will not get that dialog and the embedded profile will be honored. See:

Photoshop CC's Color Settings & the Convert to Profile and Assign Profile command.

This new video covers everything you thought you wanted to know about the Photoshop Color Setting dialog. It also discusses the Convert to Profile Command and the Assign Profile Command. Photoshop CC 2017 is used in this video and it updates the video on this subject I Published on June 28, 2012.

High Rez: http://digitaldog.net/files/PhotoshopColorSettings.mp4
Low Rez (YouTube): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JaHOGDK5OI

Also, a DNG should open in ACR if indeed it's raw. It would never have Adobe RGB (1998) as an embedded profile. What and where did that DNG come from and can you upload it?

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No joy for me.
Here's a screenshot of my Color Settings in PS, unchanged and was already set to Preserve.

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@andrew_rodney I exported the dng from LrC just to do the test you asked me to do.  I had previously set the Color Settings to "ask" in case there were issues related to this troubleshooting.  Normally, I have them on "preserve" as you suggest.  The dng is 79MB.  I can try to upload it somewhere if you think there is value to that.  The dng did open in ACR as you say.  I didn't mention that because that is normal behavior.

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Access to Dropbox?

Odd DNG opened as you state, that may be part of your issue but we need the DNG. No, that's not normal behavior. 

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@andrew_rodney I uploaded to Google Drive.  you should be able to download from there?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aWw2_RExV1xRyiTdu6Q7P7PvzpIof0d6/view?usp=sharing

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Got it, something is certainly wrong. It opens in ACR showing the correct DCP profile. It is imported in LR without and LR shows "Missing Profile". Asking to update metadata and preview command doesn't help. So LR isn't supporting this profile for some reason, ACR is. Screen capture from my Mac below. 

Question: IF you use a different DCP profile, say from Adobe, does it work? 

If so, there might be something about this DCP profile that LR doesn't like. 

Author “Color Management for Photographers"

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Well, the profiles work just fine for me in LR, including opening that .dng, but of course I have installed them.  The issue has never been LR, but only when opening the image from Lightroom in PhotoShop.  I tried using an Adobe profile and the image looks correct in PS, but when I open the ACR filter, the profile just says "color", but perhaps this is normal as I didn't open as Smart Object and the RAW file has been rasterized?  (Not to introduce a whole other topic...)

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@andrew_rodney @arjun_haarith I am giving up further troubleshooting for now.  I downgraded to ACR V12 and everything is working just fine.  I hope the next update to ACR 13 fixes this though!  This is clearly some kind of bug in ACR (not my color settings, not the GPU, not my computer, not the display profile, not the color profile itself - something wrong in ACR).

For those who need it, ACR v12 installation is here:  https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-in-installer.html

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4 months ago

Can also confirm that this behaviour only happens with .CR3 files.
I lose all LrC edits when "Edit in Photoshop".

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@koketso Do you really lose all edits?  I thought that at one point too, but to convince myself I was only losing the color profile, I used the adjustment brush to burn a line right across the image before "Edit in Photoshop" and the burn was still there (although due to the loss of the color profile, the image otherwise looked very different).

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You are correct.

I also burnt a line and it carried over, along with a dramatic exposure change. My workflow with this album required me to only change colour and lens profiles before "Edit in Photohshop"

Also...
Manually adding Ps as an "Edit in" program doesn't carry the colour profile across either.
Other software works as expected (I tried with Luminar 4 and Nik Collection)

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er no... i use Nikon D850 and D600. It happens to NEF file too. I think it's the ACR in Photoshop has problem with custom camera profile, not the raw file type.

I use the RNI presets, it has the old film camera custom profile.

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4 months ago

Use ps open a RAW with ACR,and “Restore the color profiles settings”. It's solved this Bug when the ps open and close normally. But In macos,if force close the PS,then the Bug will be back. 

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@cyfoto Thanks!  Can you give more exact instructions?  Open a raw SOOC or a dng saved from LR with the profile in it?  Where is the "Restore color profiles" setting located?  Does this cause the behavior for later "Edit in PhotoShop 2021" invocations from LR to work as expected?  If it is a one-time solution (meaning how to open a single image with the profile), then Open as Smart Object also works.

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4 months ago

I use Chinese version, this interface。Restore to the default color profile and restore the favorite color profile。If PS open and close normally,Edit in ps 2021 from lr will normal all the time。Do not froce close PS in macOS。Forgive me for my bad English...

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@cyfoto Thanks for the additional explanation.  Unfortunately, that did not work for me to correct the problem.  The custom color profiles continue to be lost when using "Edit in PhotoShop 2021" even after resetting those options.  I will hope that the next Adobe Camera Raw update fixes it.  While I wait, ACR v12.4 is working properly.  Also "Open as Smart Obect in PhotoShop" also works properly.

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I hope that too!!!! 

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4 months ago

Today Photoshop 2021 update to 22.0.1.73

this version fix it?

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@cyfoto I just installed and tried it and the problem is still there.  I think the issue is in Adobe Camera Raw, so I am hoping that the next update of that component will resolve?