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Wed, Oct 21, 2020 2:20 PM

Lightroom Classic: Editing raw file in PS from LR loses profile

[See here for how to reproduce the bug and an easy workaround:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/conversations/lightroom-classic/lightroom-classic-editing-cr3-files-in-ps-from-lr-lose-color-profile/5f9043b035f40c2520b9e964?commentId=5fb3495d014b4c3c8a0da305 -- John Ellis]

Editing a picture in Photoshop 2021 from within LR 10.0 makes the color profile disappear and the image loses all it's vibrancy... Any idea how to fix that? Top image is what I see in LR. Bottom is how it shows up in Photoshop... 

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Champion

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8 m ago

[Here's a concise synthesis of previous posts and my own testing]

When you edit a raw photo in Photoshop that has a creative profile containing a LUT, Photoshop loses the profile.  A workaround is to do Metadata > Save Metadata To File right before editing in Photoshop, or alternatively, set the option Catalog Settings > Metadata > Automatically Write Changes Into XMP.

To reproduce:

1. Make sure Photoshop is not running.

2. In LR, uncheck the option Catalog Settings > Metadata > Automatically Write Changes Into XMP. 

3. In LR, import the creative profile My LUT Creative Profile (a creative profile containing a LUT):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pgooisxu70f4tg6/My%20LUT%20Creative%20Profile.xmp?dl=0

4. Choose a raw file and delete any associated sidecar from disk.

5. Edit the raw in Develop and apply the profile My LUT Creative Profile.

6. Do Edit In Adobe Photoshop 2021.

7. Observe that the profile has not been applied in Photoshop.

The bug doesn't occur with creative profiles (.xmp) not containing a LUT, nor does it occur with camera profiles (.dcp).

See here for a likely explanation of the root cause: 

https://feedback.photoshop.com/conversations/lightroom-classic/lightroom-classic-editing-raw-file-in-ps-from-lr-loses-profile/5f9043b035f40c2520b9e964?commentId=5fb4278fca9d527a59c46d60&replyId=5fb4296810452c0fd21b75c8 

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3 Messages

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80 Points

9 m ago

Same issue here on latest Photoshop 22, Lightroom 10 and Camera Raw 13.
Camera: Canon R5

Seems Lightroom doesn't create a TIF file for Photoshop to use, but instead Photoshop loads the CR3 file.


Restored the previous version of Photoshop 21.2.4 which correctly creates a tif file.

Hopefully this gets sorted soon.

Update:
Color is only lost when using color fidelity profile, when I use Adobe Color or another custom profile there is no loss in color in photoshop

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Champion

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9 m ago

"Seems Lightroom doesn't create a TIF file for Photoshop to use, but instead Photoshop loads the CR3 file."

Actually, that is how it always works. Lightroom instructs Photoshop to open the raw file (via Camera Raw), with the Lightroom edits. Because of the latter, the ACR dialog is suppressed. Lightroom will only render a TIF file itself when there is a version mismatch between Lightroom and ACR.

Here's a workaround: Open the file as a smart object. Then you can invoke ACR by double clicking the smart object. Switch to another profile and back.

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438 Points

9 m ago

I am having the exact same problem.  I cannot use Lightroom and Photoshop together like this for CR3 (Canon R5) files!  Help, Adobe!

Lightroom Classic 10.0

Camera Raw 13.0

PhotoShop 2021 22.0.0

Camera Raw Plugin 13.0.0.610

Lightroom:
Photoshop: 

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Adobe Administrator

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142.1K Points

9 m ago

If you aren't following Johan's suggestions,

A screenshot of your Preferences>External Editor settings would be helpful here. 

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152 Points

9 m ago

Please help, I have this problem

While exporting from Lightroom to Photoshop, the color profile (not Adobe, mine) are NOT preserved, so I have to export MANUALLY the tiff all the time and continue to work on that. I think it is a bug, I have this after installing Photoshop V22 and Lightroom V10

Os: Mac OSX

External edit setting: Tiff, ProPhoto RBG, 16 bits, no compression 

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Lightroom Classic 10: Color profile NOT embedded in exporting to Photoshop V22

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70 Points

9 m ago

Photoshop 22: When a third party LUT/Colour profile is applied to an image in Lightroom, this profile is not present in Photoshop 2021 when the image is exported via "edit in Photoshop 2021." I'm using the Archetype Process Fujifilm Profile pack.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled LUT/Colour Profile applied in Lightroom not present when exported to Photoshop 2021 for adjustment

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292 Points

9 m ago

In LRClassic 2020, when i "edit in Photoshop" any R5 files with a Color Fidelity Profile, the colors are incorrect and desaturated in Photoshop. If however I export to hard drive first, the file is correctly exported and the colors are also correct. It's almost as if no profile is applied if i "edit in Photoshop"

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Lightroom Classic: - R5 files Edit in PS colors incorrect with Color Fidelity profiles

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122 Points

9 m ago

Hello, i have the same problem with Lightroom 10 and Photoshop 2021.
I tried Johan's method but it only worked when i keep photoshop open and only if i use the same custom camera profile on other photos.

When i change to other profile or close and reopen photoshop, it happen again (even with the same photo and custom camera profile).

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80 Points

9 m ago

I find that by selecting 'Automatically write changes into XMP' in 'Catalog Settings' in Lightroom, the color profile works when exporting to Photoshop

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70 Points

9 m ago

I noticed the following related issue.

When importing CR3 file (from Canon EOS R5) to LR I apply a custom profile (but also happens with Adobe) and when shifting from Develop module to Library the histogram increase about 1-stop... The exported JPEG files also do not match my editing. You can notice the exposition variation on this LQ gif below.

I don't see this issue with CR3 from EOS R camera files.

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438 Points

9 m ago

Left image - Lightroom, Canon R5 photo, CRAW CR3, Third party color profile applied

Middle image - Photoshop "Edit in Photoshop 2021" from LR, note that color profile is gone, color profile not visible in ACR, importing color profile fails saying it is already loaded.

Right image - Photoshop "Open as Smart Object in Photoshop", double clicking layer to enter ACR does show the color profile as being present, along with other third party profiles that are loaded in Lightroom

What's going on with ACR?  It never used to do this...



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130 Points

9 m ago

Can also confirm that this behaviour only happens with .CR3 files.
I lose all LrC edits when "Edit in Photoshop".

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90 Points

9 m ago

Use ps open a RAW with ACR,and “Restore the color profiles settings”. It's solved this Bug when the ps open and close normally. But In macos,if force close the PS,then the Bug will be back. 

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90 Points

8 m ago

I use Chinese version, this interface。Restore to the default color profile and restore the favorite color profile。If PS open and close normally,Edit in ps 2021 from lr will normal all the time。Do not froce close PS in macOS。Forgive me for my bad English...