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Tue, Nov 15, 2011 9:20 AM

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Lightroom Classic: Chokes on large keyword lists (Windows only)

Please see the image - I cannot scroll any further down the keyword list after the word 'coloured'. This is a much more recent problem than the separate keyword export issue I have just reported but it means that I cannot do even a manual fix of that other issue.Help much appreciated!Scott

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5 months ago

I have been trying to layer my keywords. I have set up various categories (parent keywords) and selected (Ctrl-click) one or more other (child) keywords to move under the parent. Sometimes that works. Sometimes I select a series of child keywords and when I try to move them, nothing happens, or the system thinks about it (whirly arrow) and decides I am trying to move everything other than the selected keywords, or it just crashes the program and I have to restart (Lightroom Classic 2-2, running in Windows 10 on a Core i7 processor). Sometimes I can move keywords down the list order, but not up. This is a huge waste of time. 

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Agreed it's a huge waste of time. As a workaround, use the Filter Keywords box in the Keyword List panel to restrict the keywords you want to manipulate, e.g. "people richard" will show just keywords containing "people" or "richard":



Note that I've collapsed People to avoid the display of thousands of child keywords it contains.  

This workaround keeps the number of keywords displayed under the limit where LR starts choking.

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I have started doing this, but my keywords are not that structured, mainly because I didn't know what I was doing when i started. It is a horrible mess sorting it out now!

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5 months ago

I have the same experience and I believe it has you do with Lightroom's memory footprint. At some point, you need you restart it to make the drag and drop work again. I restart as soon as it stops doing this, I don't push it to crash.

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This bug is independent of the amount of memory LR uses. Rather, it's caused by shortcuts Adobe took developing the Windows version of LR:
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/bug-that-causes-collections-and-publish-servi...

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Yes, the bug about long lists is independent, but not the drag and drop behavior. When you try to move keywords into top level keywords, LR will eventually stop doing this, and THAT is memory dependent. It works again after you restart LR.

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If there are more than the maximum number of keywords displayed in the Keyword List panel, then drag-and-drop will behave very inconsistently, in the way that David Larson was observing.

If you observe drag-and-drop behaving inconsistently or not working at all with less than the maximum number of keywords currently visible in the Keyword List panel, then I think that's a separate bug. I don't recall seeing any bug reports about that, so please file a bug report with as much detail as you can provide.

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Correct, it is a separate bug and it is related to the (very persistent across many versions of) LR behavior that the software becomes unresponsive when its memory footprint gets too large. Depending on how much system RAM you have, it can be as little as 6 GB, but I usually find it behaving erratically around 10 GB+ (I have 64 GB RAM and a dedicated swap disk).

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Please file a bug report about that behavior. I don't think there are any previous bug reports about this in this forum.