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2.2K Points

Thu, May 5, 2011 4:31 PM

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Lightroom Classic: Allow for keyboard shortcut customization

Customizable keyboard shortcuts in Lightroom would be great. I just find it so confusing that crop and brush tools and things like that have such odd keyboard shortcuts in Lightroom. I understand that changing that all now would be awful for many existing users, but being able to override them like I can in Photoshop would be helpful. Doesn't anyone else out there find they use to wrong keyboard shortcuts in the wrong program?

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27 Messages

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654 Points

5 y ago

THIS is what keyboard shortcut customisation looks like. Complete control over how you want to work. You know, like invoking Crop with the C key, not the R key.

Still beggars belief that Apple can do this but Adobe can't. Even more amazing that after five years, Adobe still isn't meeting this need among its users. Get it together, ya gronks.

Yeah, and I'm fully friggin' aware Apple dropped Aperture. So don't start on me. 

  

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144 Points

5 y ago

(I registed to Photoshop Family only to be able to post this.)

This is so frustrating for any user who...
1. Doesn't like the current shortcuts
2. Wants to add shortcuts to functions/commands that don't have one (instead of gong through various dropdown menus every single time)
3. All graphics tablet users

Probably 2/3 of Lightroom users fall in one—or many—of these categories to some extent.

Seriously, this is an important feature for all pieces software like this! And it has been 5 years!

Adobe, do something! 

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6.6K Messages

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110.1K Points

Mac or PC? On Mac, you can use the OS Keyboard Shortcuts preferences to assign a shortcut to any menu command, which might help.

Victoria Bampton a.k.a. The Lightroom Queen

www.lightroomqueen.com

Author of Adobe Lightroom Classic - The Missing FAQ and Adobe Lightroom - Edit Like a Pro books.

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654 Points

It might help a little but it's a half-baked option.

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110.1K Points

No arguments from me Chris - I'd like to see it too - but it may help in the meantime.

Victoria Bampton a.k.a. The Lightroom Queen

www.lightroomqueen.com

Author of Adobe Lightroom Classic - The Missing FAQ and Adobe Lightroom - Edit Like a Pro books.

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144 Points

Ah, tried it again and now the modifier keys work (first time I tried, only F1-F12 keys worked). Thanks for telling me, Victoria. I would have missed it. 

However, it has limitations. For example, I can't use only letter keys (or single keys). In Lightroom, I find the P, U, X shortcuts awfully organized and spread all over the keyboard. When triaging my shoot pictures, I would like to have all three keys together under three fingers, right next to the Shift key. A much better layout! Maybe I'll have to wait for Adobe to add a full feature. Does the same thing happen for you when adding only letters or single keys in the App Shortcuts feature of OS X?

What has been you experience with the App Shortcuts feature (unless you're on PC)?

Kind regards and thanks again.

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654 Points

Your response, Keven, indicates exactly why customisable shortcuts are necessary, which is that when it comes to workflow, each user's preference are unique, so come on, Adobe, get onto it.

To answer your question regarding system-level shortcut modification (even though you didn't direct it to me) in OS X, my experience is that it's such an inadequate solution it's not worth bothering with.

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110.1K Points

For P, U and X, have you tried using the ~/` key to toggle flagged/unflagged?  It's right next to the X key.

Victoria Bampton a.k.a. The Lightroom Queen

www.lightroomqueen.com

Author of Adobe Lightroom Classic - The Missing FAQ and Adobe Lightroom - Edit Like a Pro books.

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144 Points

That's my Z key. I'm in the non-US keyboard boat as well. :) 

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110.1K Points

Next one along?  

Victoria Bampton a.k.a. The Lightroom Queen

www.lightroomqueen.com

Author of Adobe Lightroom Classic - The Missing FAQ and Adobe Lightroom - Edit Like a Pro books.

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144 Points

Shift key. :D 
Victoria, see my comment below! 

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144 Points

5 y ago

I've found a way to make all (I am 97% sure of this) custom keyboard shortcuts work for Lightroom on OS X. It is a big work-around, but it works!
1. Use 'App Shortcuts' in 'System Preferences' → 'Keyboard' → 'Shortcuts' to create keyboard shortcuts. Follow the instructions on this page if you don't know how to do this: http://www.computer-darkroom.com/lr2_keyboard/lightroom-keyboard.htm

2. Since you always need to add modifier keys with the 'App Shortcuts' feature, to create single-character shortcuts, you will need an application. There are probably different applications that can do this, both free and paid, but I use BetterTouchTool (which is paid, but it is awesome for a multitude of differnet things—screen-snapping being only one of them).

- First, assign a shortcut in 'App Shortcuts'
- Add Lightroom in the keyboard shortcuts section in BetterTouchTool (or any other application that does the same thing)
- Add the 'App Shortcuts' shortcut and then assign a single-key shortcut to it. 

For example, assigning  'Shift+Cmd+Y' to 'Flagged' in 'App Shortcuts' (since you might need P for somthing else). Then, adding this in BetterTouchTool and assigning 'C' to it (but first changing the 'C' shortcut in Lightroom, which is the 'Compare' function, using 'App Shortcuts', to avoid shortcut conflicts). With this, Pressing 'C' toggles 'Shift+Cmd+Y', which in turn flags a picture in Lightroom.

If there is already an assigned keyboard shortcut in Lightroom (and you won't need it for another function), you can use either 'App Shortcuts' or BetterTouchTool and skip the other. 'App Shortcuts' will require a modifier key though, so BetterTouchTool would be a better option.

3. Make sure there are no shortcut conflicts!
That's it. It's quite a lot of work initially, but for Mac users (and graphics tablet users on OS X), it means not having to impatiently wait for Adobe to implement this feature, and therefore enjoying increased ease of working with Lightroom.

EDIT: Everything I've written is still correct, but there is one small problem. Assigning single-character keys to functions/commands will also be the case modify keys when typing text. 

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654 Points

Mate, that is WAY too much *** about. Especially if Apple changes the implementation of shortcuts in an OS update or Adobe *** about with command names, as they did with the implementation in the latest Photoshop release with "Select and Mask" replacing "Refine Edge/Mask". 

I appreciate you sharing your efforts. Perhaps it will stand as an example to Adobe to pull their finger out and get on with implementing a decent customisation solution for its supposedly valued clients.

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35K Points

I completely agree. Bad enough we had to create a shortcut in Apple to get a simple Save As back. I'm not mucking about with creating all those kbsc. A very interesting set of steps that only convinces me it's high time Adobe Lightroom (and Bridge) fixed this. They can borrow the code from the guy down the hall. <g>

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144 Points

It might initially be a lot of work, but as a Wacom tablet user, instead of having to use a tablet, a pen, a mouse AND a keyboard, this is worth it. I also don't have to rely and wait on Adobe to implement this feature.

I'll probably be buying an external numpad keyboard in a few days (I had to use the keyboard numpad anyway—for opacity, flow and other things—but it is about a foot away). I'm still don't know if numpad numbers are recognized differently from normal number keys, but either way, I'll be assigning useful functions to the numbers—alone and/or combined with different modifiers—which gives me quite a lot to work with. This means not having to switch over to the keyboard and mouse every few minutes, which is much better.

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654 Points

Horses for courses, bud.

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84 Points

5 y ago

I use a Belgian keyboard and none of the shortcuts with a [ or ] don't work as these require me to already press Alt Gr. Increadible that this isn't fixed yet, customization of shortcuts would be the solution for me.

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101K Points

Which commands in particular are you referring to, and for which language is LR configured (French, German, Dutch, English)?  

Most (perhaps all) of the uses of [ and ] in English keyboard shortcuts have been replaced with other keys in other languages. For example, in French, to decrease or increase the size of the spot and adjustment brushes, use "," or ";".   Many of these shortcuts are not documented.

(By the way, I fully agree that it would be better if LR allowed shortcuts to be more easily customized.)

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OK but in QWERTZ swiss french keyboard, it's no possible to use [ and ], it's key combination of alt + 5 or alt + 6, ; , it's shift + ,, ? it's shif +? this shortcuts are not acceptable in base of a day work !! Please use the system same in PS customizable shortcuts ais the solution !!!

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650 Points

4 y ago

I use a Swiss German Keyboard and I have the same problems. I am a german speaker, so my Lightroom runs German language. But Swiss German Keyboard Layout differs heavily from German layout, so not even resizing a brush can be done via keyboard - I believe this is poor, as there are millions of copys in the world, still no proper localisation is done for paying customers in smaller countries. Thanks for finally solving this!

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344 Points

4 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled AZERTY Shortcuts.

Dear Adobe,

I've been using Lightroom and Photoshop for years now, and paying quite a lot for this, and I have the following issues:
- In Photoshop, I cannot use many shortcuts unless I remap them manually
- Worse, in Lightroom I cannot use the shortcuts. Period. You don't even allow me to go through the hassle of remapping them.

Unless I'm mistaken, we AZERTY users don't get a discount even though you are providing us with an extremely degraded software.

This is unacceptable. It has been unacceptable for years.

DO SOMETHING

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318 Points

This is not a bug actually, it's a lack of functionality in Lightroom, please help million of users to do something simple like, for instance, to reduce or expand a stack of pics with one touch.

please, help us!

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3.7K Points

4 y ago

What the heck? Since Lightroom 2015.8 users of non-English keyboards can't use these one-key shortcuts:
  • Before/After
  • Deselect Active Photo
  • Toggle Flag
  • Show Filter Bar
Reason is explained by John. R. Ellis here: https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-translatedstrings-lr-en-us-txt-not-...

Those functions have one-key shortcuts for keys that do not exist on non-English keyboards and since Lightroom 2015.8 keyboard shortcuts can't be remapped to one-key shortcuts in Lightroom running on Mac.

Those actions can have two-or-more-key shortcuts made via macOS Preferences, but no one-key shortcut can be made. So Mac people using non-English keyboards can't have access to essential functions via their keyboards as people using English keyboards can.

It's been months. Fix this, Adobe.

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676 Points

4 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled User Customizable Hot Keys.

It would be great to have some options for customizable hot keys in Lightroom. 

A couple personal favorites would be hotkeys for the Target Adjustment Tools available in the Tone Curve, Hue/Saturation/Luminance and B&W adjustment panels. 

(Editing away in the Develop module)
Presses Tone Curve Target Adjustment hotkey
Target Adjusts away
Quickly moves on to next photo 

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242 Points

4 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled keyboard shortcuts in lightroom.

it would appear that i am not alone in this request. i have always found customised keyboard
shortcuts very useful, i use them in photoshop. why then has lightroom got no option for this?
it makes no sense have it in other adobe programs, but not this one. 

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154 Points

4 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Please ADD Keyboard Shortcuts for Exposure / Quick Develop Changes in Library Gr....

I would like to request that keyboard shortcuts be made available when working in the Lightroom Library Grid mode - instead of having to click with the mouse and go over to the quick develop panel - i would like to be able to use keyboard shortcuts to do batch adjustments to images (such as the one stop of exposure increase, add contrast - basically all the settings in quick develop should be keyboard shortcuts to increase or decrease but able to do so on multiple images selected at once - the way you can from the develop module, except without needed to option click to sync the images.)

My goal is to be able to do batch adjustments from the keyboard quickly to  multiple images from the library module using the same keyboard shortcuts that work in the develop module. The grid mode is an easier way to see multiple images and do basic corrections quickly when working with thousands of images. 

Also would like to see custom keyboard shortcut functionality for all of Lightroom modules, to create users own preference of keyboard hotkeys for editing

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654 Points

Hear, hear. Programmable/customisable keyboard shortcuts would be even better. Why let Adobe's code monkeys tell you which shortcuts you have to use? Define your own. Work YOUR way. 
I can't believe this thread is now six years old and STILL we wait for Adobe to respond to user requests for shortcuts

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154 Points

4 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Keyboard shortcut for Level in Develop Module.

Can we get a keyboard shortcut to quickly apply a level (with option click availability to constrain crop) an image in the develop module. I cannot find a keyboard shortcut to level and it's time consuming to mouse click every time for an image.

Also, when will there be customizable keyboard shortcuts for lightroom?

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344 Points

4 y ago

Please Adobe, do this. My Wacom is unusable because your shortcuts are designed ONLY for QWERTY, and unusable on non-US keyboard. What a shame...

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654 Points

Yup. TWO new versions of LR and still no keyboard customisability. This is what you call listening to your customers, Adobe?

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3.7K Points

There SO MUCH this kind of things that prove us Adobe has focus on consumers, not professionals. STILL no way to customize keyboard shortcuts for non-US keyboards after YEARS. But they had time for a totally new, consumer focused LR. I don’t like their business decisions.

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318 Points

Besides, maybe it's not a change so complicated to implement in the software code! Pls Adobe consider that this customisation is important! Many functions need some shortcuts too!

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770 Points

3 y ago

It seems to me that Adobe thinks every professional photographer LOVES the mouse.
Clicking , dragging , moving is easy and visually but also very primitive and slow.
Keyboard shortcuts are not just quicker, they prevent RSI. If you do suffer from RSI you realize how terrible the mouse can be. 

As paying subcribers of professional software we should be able to map our keyboard shortcuts if we want to,
Dear Adobe, Stop thinking that you know what is best for your professional users. You don't.

If you call something Quick Develop but then all you can do is use a mouse only to add exposure or contrast then you are missing insight. 

You want me to double click the word EFFECT all day to reset my adjustment brush? 
Yes you can create a preset, so then i would have to click and drag all day to get simple behaviour you should be able todo with 1 keystroke on your keyboard.
The time it takes to use a mouse action vs a keyboard command times 1000 images.
Go calculate that.

I should be able to set a default size radial, and have a shortcut to add this radial to my image.
Yes you can create a develop preset for that, but i can't map a keyboard shortcut.
Command Option drag your mouse to duplicate a radial is NOT a shortcut. 

Obviously the people that are designing this product are not professional photographers that have long editing sessions.

And i don't need any tips about Better Touch Tool, Pfixer, Midi2lr etc which are all fantastic tools that make Lightroom actually usable. But these are all created because Adobe fails its paying professionals on a very basic level. 

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1K Points

Just when are Adobe going to give us the vastly superior and more rapid to use customisable keyboard shortcuts in Lightroom.  It would make so much difference to so many photographers - speeding up workflow immeasurably

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770 Points

3 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Custom Keyboard Shortcuts and actual keyboard shortcuts for Mouse only actions.

It seems to me that Adobe thinks every professional photographer LOVES the mouse.
Clicking , dragging , moving is easy and visually but also very primitive and slow.
Keyboard shortcuts are not just quicker, they prevent RSI. If you do suffer from RSI you realize how terrible the mouse can be. 

As paying subcribers of professional software we should be able to map our keyboard shortcuts if we want to,
Dear Adobe, Stop thinking that you know what is best for your professional users. You don't.

If you call something Quick Develop but then all you can do is use a mouse only to add exposure or contrast then you are missing insight. 

You want me to double click the word EFFECT all day to reset my adjustment brush? 
Yes you can create a preset, so then i would have to click and drag all day to get simple behaviour you should be able todo with 1 keystroke on your keyboard.
The time it takes to use a mouse action vs a keyboard command times 1000 images.
Go calculate that.

I should be able to set a default size radial, and have a shortcut to add this radial to my image.
Yes you can create a develop preset for that, but i can't map a keyboard shortcut.
Command Option drag your mouse to duplicate a radial is NOT a shortcut. 

Obviously the people that are designing this product are not professional photographers that have long editing sessions.

And i don't need any tips about Better Touch Tool, Pfixer, Midi2lr etc which are all fantastic tools that make Lightroom actually usable. But these are all created because Adobe fails its paying professionals on a very basic level. 

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6.4K Points

3 y ago

How is this still not implemented??