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Thu, May 5, 2011 4:31 PM

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Lightroom Classic: Allow for keyboard shortcut customization

Customizable keyboard shortcuts in Lightroom would be great. I just find it so confusing that crop and brush tools and things like that have such odd keyboard shortcuts in Lightroom. I understand that changing that all now would be awful for many existing users, but being able to override them like I can in Photoshop would be helpful. Doesn't anyone else out there find they use to wrong keyboard shortcuts in the wrong program?

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152 Points

8 y ago

Hello,

how about a customization option in LR, for changing shortcuts of tools etc.?
It can't be that hard :).
It works in Photoshop as well!

Regards

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
How about defining your own shortcuts in LR.

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244 Points

8 y ago

Photoshop has this option. Why not Lightroom?

I would really like to "Open as Layers in Photoshop" with one keystroke.

Better yet, I'd love to open a series of stacks as layered psd file.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
LIGHTROOM: Custom keyboard shortcuts.

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132 Points

8 y ago

This is really very basic functionality that is missing in my opinion. Lightroom's biggest weakness is how its interface limits productivity by forcing you to use the mouse for everything when the keyboard is so much faster. Paddy is great but just one guy with limited resources. Please Lightroom Team, do this and do it right so we are able to get the most out of the software we've purchased! Thanks, Matt

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174 Points

8 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Keyboard Shortcuts, give us choices..


I cannot tell you how many times I have accidently dragged a finger on my keyboard and suddenly, I’m in an alternate universe. Yes I am talking about the myriad keyboard shortcuts in all Adobe products. One misplaced stroke on the keyboard, and your screen may change dramatically as you have inadvertanly pressed an unknown key and have to try to figure out how to get back to wherever you were. I would be amazed if there was even one person in the world that has all the keyboard shortcuts in every module of LR memorized. So here’s my suggestion and I have to believe it would be easily implemented by your brilliant software engineers (I mean that, they really are).

How about a preferences tab with a page for each module that would allow one to turn off, or turn on the keyboard shortcuts. It could be a simple checkbox for “All On” or “All Off” with “All On” being the default. But it would allow one to check on just the ones needed. That way, a person could start with some basics turned on, and then add more as they become more proficient. You know, the old “baby steps” theory.

I really hope you take my suggestion to heart and implement it. It would make LR an even more fabulous piece of software.

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102 Points

7 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Custom Keyboard Shortcuts for Lightroom!.


I want to be able to quickly change my keyboard shortcuts to improve my workflow. Looked for a similar way to change it like Photoshop, only to discover it doesn't exist!

Can we get this?

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1.3K Points

7 y ago

And if any of you had seen the Shortcutkeys in Adobe Illustrator... Man even in PS they still have to implement that button for "Jump to the conflict key" that is AWESOME...

Otherwise as I can see for a couple of years no change even here. Please Adobe go google LR Paddy and check it. Then remember PS and AI and implement that all in LR. ;-)

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112 Points

7 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Lightroom custom keyboard shortcuts.


Photoshop has custom keyboard shortcuts.

Please add them to Lightroom already! v5 and still not there? Ridonkulous

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188 Points

7 y ago

This is needed because some keyboard shortcuts in Lightroom is created for English keyboards only. Some shortcuts doesn't work at all when you use for example, a Swedish keyboard.

"Rotate picture" and "Hold to view before/after" is two shortcuts that doesn't work for me and that I really would like to use.

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300 Points

6 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Short cut editor for LR.

As tablets are becoming more and more frequent in photo editing it would be most useful to be able to assign personalized short cuts to LR menu items in the same way as in PS. E.g. Photo>Edit in> (different options for external editing). At the moment there is a shortcut only to open in PS, but e.g. not to open in PS as smart object....

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101K Points

6 y ago

Risto wrote, "At the moment there is a shortcut only to open in PS, but e.g. not to open in PS as smart object...."

I agree that LR would benefit from a general facility for assigning shortcuts. However, on Mac you can assign shortcuts to nearly all of menu commands using OS X's built-in facility for assigning shortcuts. For example, I just assigned F4 to Photo > Edit In > Open as Smart Object in Photoshop:

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Is the possibility to set shortcut for All Photographs been removed (I've just tried it and did not work), or was your shortcut Option+A not for changing to All Photographs?

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300 Points

6 y ago

As a windows user that doesn't make me feel much better... :-/

I did some search and it seems to me that windows does't have the capability to assign keyboard short cuts within other than MS office applications.

That leaves windows users with some plugins that are either as expensive as LR itself or are not properly supported....?

To me that confirms that there is a huge need for this capability natively within LR...

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76.3K Points

6 y ago

Here is an auto-hotkey script which allows Lr-in-Windows users to configure any key to do whatever they want (assuming said function is available via the keyboard) - for free.

http://www.robcole.com/LrForumSupport...

It requires editing a script text file, but most of the hard work is already done.
Here's an example "script-let" which assigns F4 to 'Open as Smart Object in Photoshop':

/*
Lightroom
F4 -> Alt-peo (Open as Smart Object in Photoshop)
*/
F4::
lr_win_id := GetLightroomWindowID()
if (lr_win_id <> 0) {
Send {Alt down}p{Alt up}eo
}
return

Instructions:
* Download 'LrAutoHotkey.zip' (from link above) and save file inside zip with the name 'AutoHotkey.ahk' in the root of your documents folder.
* Append the above "script-let" to the end of the file.
* Download and install Auto-Hotkey (e.g. from autohotkey.com).
With Lightroom running, press F4. If all went well, it should open selected photo as smart object in Ps.

To add more mappings, copy/paste and edit the scriptlet - you'll need 3 pieces of info to get the job done:
1. The keystroke sequence in Lightroom.
2. How to specify the key being assigned.
3. How to specify the keys to send when the key being assigned is pressed.

The first you can get using the Lightroom UI.
the second and third require auto-hotkey help doc.

I realize it's more work than you'd like, but it gets the job done - can also be used for mouse clicks and other things..

Cheers,
Rob

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6 y ago

Risto wrote, "As a windows user that doesn't make me feel much better... :-/"

I'm sorry, I incorrectly assumed you were on Mac. On Windows, you can use the standard Windows keyboard accelerators to access all the menu items. So to open a pic as a smart object in photoshop, you'd type ALT-P E O.

Three keys aren't quite as good as a single key, I agree. But when working on Windows on repetitive tasks, I do like the a ability to access every menu command from the keyboard instantly.

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300 Points

6 y ago

Hi John!

Finally a ray of hope to windows users :-) I almost started considering changing the platform.

Using keyboard short cuts especially together with Wacom tablet is of great help, indeed (even though Wacon driver for windows environment seem to have quite a few bugs...) .

I did some search about programming keyboard shortcuts in windows environment but I didn't find other that some instructions for MS office applications. Where can I find e.g. that ALT-PEO? There certainly are many other short cuts I would like to implement besides that open as smart object.

Thanks for your help!

BR
Risto

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Lightroom supports keyboard accelerators for most functions on both platforms - no extra charge.

Just press Alt-p-e-o and you'll see.

To see all Alt- possibilities, just press Alt.

To see all alt-photo-menu possibilities, press Alt-p.

etc.

Lr help may also list all possibilities - dunno.

PS - most possibilities are evidenced by an underlined character but some are active even without the underlined character, in which case the active character is the first one, e.g. on Scripts menu (which is only visible if scripts are present).

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300 Points

6 y ago

Hi Rob

Thanks to your answer as well (see above).

I'm using a wacom tablet, so probably I would rather assing the valid keystroke strings to various short cut triggers in the tablet which is quite easy to do

The main problem for me is to know what are those strings (your point 3), where could I find the relevant documentation? I did some google search previously but didn't find anything useful.

(E.g. concerning this particular string - do I need to hold ALT pressed when typing all 3 characters, or just when typing P...from the script it seems that the latter is the case. How about any other command strings?)

Thanks for your help!

BR
Risto

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There is a list in Lr help (e.g. press 'F1' key), I found here:

http://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help...

Also, you can get a list of Library module shortcuts from the help menu whilst in Library module, similarly for Develop..

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Hi Rob

Thanks again for your help.

I checked the help documentation of LR, but those Alt+ shortcuts, e.g. that ALT+PEA, do not exist there... I wonder why those are hidden... Where did you find that command or did you just have a try?

BR
Risto

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Hmm.. - anyway, yeah, I press Alt-p and see what's underlined, then Alt-p-e..

The help document seems pretty good, but has some holes you may need to fill in the hard way - screenshots may help.. - sorry.

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Does Mac version have underlined letters in menu items ?

Windows version doesn't....so I guess one has to do it with trial & error... should I make an improvment proposal or a bug report?

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This is just standard OS menu functionality - it's not specific to Lightroom

Victoria Bampton a.k.a. The Lightroom Queen

www.lightroomqueen.com

Author of Adobe Lightroom Classic - The Missing FAQ and Adobe Lightroom - Edit Like a Pro books.

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In Windows, if none of the characters are underlined, then it's the first character.

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In many cases the first letters are the same, e.g. Photo > Edit > open as smart object vs open as layers...

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Indeed, so for example "Open as Layers in Photoshop.." is:

Alt-p-e-o-o

Try it!

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Thanks Rob, I certainly like it, easy to assign Wacom short cut to it. The thing is that there is no way I would have fould that combinaison by trial & error before my tablet would have crashed to the wall out of frustration ... :-/ (why not e.g Alt p e o l?)

If in mac version those letters are underlined is there any possibility to get screen shots, otherwise I' ll be asking those short cuts separately to each menu item....

Victoria: thanks for your comment. Could you be more precise, which OS and which functionality?

Thanks for you help!
BR Risto

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BR Risto, google "windows Underline keyboard shortcuts and access keys" for more info. That'll give you the blurb on those Alt menu letters functionality for Windows. On a Mac, you can assign custom shortcuts to any menu command.

Victoria Bampton a.k.a. The Lightroom Queen

www.lightroomqueen.com

Author of Adobe Lightroom Classic - The Missing FAQ and Adobe Lightroom - Edit Like a Pro books.

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Hi Victoria
Thanks for your help, now I know that I have that option in Windows to display (or not) those accelerator keys.
However, this doesn't seem to completely work with Lightroom. Ironically enough, for the two example commands that I gave: open as smart object and open as layers in Photoshop my windws 8.1 pc does not show any underlined characters... I do see those for commands for which there is a documented short cut (e.g. open in photoshop), but only thanks to the kind responses I've received on this forum I know that Alt+peo is the short cut for open as a smart object.

Any additional advises?

I don't understand why Adobe has not documented ALL short cuts they have implemented in the sw.

I guess this also leaves me without a solution for shortcuts for commands that are opening photos in external programs other than photoshop...

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Risto, I understand your frustration. However, I don't think Adobe needs to document the standard Windows keyboard-accelerator shortcuts -- that is a standard feature of the Windows operating system, and no mainstream program I'm aware of documents them.

There are 4 Photo > Edit In commands that don't have underlines: Open As Smart Object, Open As Layers, Merge To Panorama, Merge To HDR. This is because by default, the shortcut letter is the first letter of the command, and there are two commands starting with "O" and two with "M". But as Rob Cole explained above, you can still select those commands by typing "O" or "M" one or two times and then hitting Enter. That is standard Windows behavior.

Adobe could improve the keyboard accelerators for the Edit In menu by explicitly assigning letters to these four commands. E.g. it could assign "S" to Open As Smart Object. This would cause the "S" to be underlined, and it would save you one or two extra keystrokes. I've submitted that request as a separate topic:

http://feedback.photoshop.com/photosh...

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Risto wrote: "I guess this also leaves me without a solution for shortcuts for commands that are opening photos in external programs other than photoshop..."

You can use the standard Windows accelerator keystrokes to invoke those commands. For example, if you have an external editor preset named "Gimp", you could invoke it by typing ALT-P E G (since G is the first letter of the submenu command "Gimp").