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Mon, Apr 4, 2011 12:23 AM

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Lightroom Classic: Ability to name custom crops and have more than 5

I would like to be able to name custom crops in Lightroom. Saving them as ratios is great but one step further would be the ability to give them a relative name for certain projects or uses.Perhaps also not limit me to 5 custom ratios.

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596 Messages

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11.3K Points

3 years ago

Hi,

Here is how you can edit the custom crop ratio drop down list in Windows in order to modify or remove ratios or get more than 5 custom ratios. Make a backup of your catalog first.

1. You need an SQLite management tool. I suggest SQLite Expert Personal 5. It's free and very good. You can find it here : http://www.sqliteexpert.com/download.html .

2. After installation, make sure that LR is not running, go to the File menu of SQLite Expert and Open Database...

3. In the Open dialog, select All files in the drop down list at the bottom right of the window. Now navigate to the folder where your catalog is stored and select the corresponding .lrcat file. Click Open.

4. Your catalog will open as an SQLite database, showing tables, columns and values. In the left panel, select the table named Adobe_variablesTable.

5. In the right panel select the Data tab.

6. In the name column, select the Adobe_customCropAspects entry (line 254).

7. In the value column, right-click on the text beginning with "customCropAspects =" and chose Text Editor.

8. The contents looks like this (this is an example with 5 custom ratios) :

customCropAspects = {
    {
        h = 1,
        w = 2,
    },
    {
        h = 7,
        w = 9,
    },
    {
        h = 8,
        w = 11,
    },
    {
        h = 9,
        w = 13,
    },
    {
        h = 11,
        w = 19,
    },
}

Each block like this
    {
        h = 11,
        w = 19,
    },

corresponds to one custom ratio (don't forget the comma).

Let's assume that you want to replace the 9x13 ratio with 13x21. Easy :

customCropAspects = {
    {
        h = 1,
        w = 2,
    },
    {
        h = 7,
        w = 9,
    },
    {
        h = 8,
        w = 11,
    },
    {
        h = 13,
        w = 21,
    },
    {
        h = 11,
        w = 19,
    },
}

Click on OK after you are done with your changes.

9. Exit SQLite Expert and click on Apply pending changes.

10. Launch LR and check the new ratio value.

11. Note that you can have more than 5 custom ratios with this procedure. You just have to add a new block. For example :

customCropAspects = {
    {
        h = 1,
        w = 2,
    },
    {
        h = 7,
        w = 9,
    },
    {
        h = 8,
        w = 11,
    },
    {
        h = 9,
        w = 13,
    },
    {
        h = 11,
        w = 19,
    },
    {
        h = 13,
        w = 21,
    },
}

defines 6 custom ratios. That works perfectly : this generates 6 custom ratios in the drop down list. Which is another evidence that this feature has not been written very seriously.

Hope this helps.

 

--
Patrick
www.ppphoto.fr
Hamburg ist der wahre Grund warum
Kompassnadeln nach Norden zeigen.

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802 Points

Many thanks Patrick, very clear instructions. I can see when it would be useful to do this and I'll retain these instructions should I need them.

But I have a large number of crop sizes to keep track of. I need to label each pair and hopefully group them in a folder type structure by company name like the Export module. Without a text label I would not remember which application each dimension belongs to and still need to keep a written list.

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5.3K Messages

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95.4K Points

Another option is my Any Crop plugin, which lets you create named crop presets.  Not as convenient as having it built-in to LR, though.

42 Messages

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802 Points

Thanks John, worth checking this out to see if it will help

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802 Points

I have now tried Any Crop plugin. It does allow me to add and name crops which is good. But I didn't find it that comfortable to use and for some unknown reason the ratios wouldn't hold, even with the crop padlock switched on. I'll wait (and wait and wait) for LR to add an enhancement to their standard crop function.

Even after cropping to the required ratio one still needs to match this with the export command to create the final JPG. I guess it would be too much to ask Adobe to also add an option to automatically pre-select a specific export preset for an image when one has chosen a named crop.

So I guess what I would like to see is a crop dialogue where one creates a named crop ratio, save this in a named folder structure and optionally both sets the crop padlock on and selects a specific export preset when exporting. I'm not sure how this would work on a batch export of mixed export presets so I'll leave that up to the Adobe experts.

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362 Points

Yes - great idea. This was suggested in the first post in this thread - seven years ago. So don't hold your breath. Adobe obviously don't think it's a good idea :-(

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"But I didn't find it that comfortable to use and for some unknown reason the ratios wouldn't hold, even with the crop padlock switched on."

If you could email with details about this to the support address on Any Crop's Web page, I would greatly appreciate this, thanks. 

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70 Points

2 years ago

Let us NAME the aspect ratios already. "folder", "Name" and aspect ratio; "Description";  eg. 1. "Frames", "13x18 cm"; 2. Frames", "13x18 cm with matte", "matte opening 11x15"; 3. Social Media / Facebook, "828 x 315 px ratio", Facebook cover photo; 4. "Frames", "50x70 cm", IKEA #502.688.74 with matte opening 40x50. Matte is asymmetric. Better for portrait orientation etc.

596 Messages

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11.3K Points

2 years ago

The original message of this thread was posted 7 years ago. Can you believe this ?

Too many fans of Marilyn Monroe and Billy Wilder at Adobe. In France, "The seven year itch" picture was titled "7 ans de réflexion" (seven years of reflection). Hey guys ! Still watching ?

 

--
Patrick
www.ppphoto.fr
Hamburg ist der wahre Grund warum
Kompassnadeln nach Norden zeigen.

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3.1K Points

I think this forum is more of a place for users to bit*h and moan, and less of a place for Adobe to listen.

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60 Points

2 years ago

I posted in the thread on the official support thread (a seemingly logical course of action to me as a customer) and was advised to come here to vote.  Sending me to a third-party platform to sign up and post just doesn't seem like an adequate response.

In a more constructive tone, my recommendation would be for a simple Folder > Item : Values system that could be easily integrated with a JSON structure.

I've since achieved this with Sketch, though it would have be better to not have to manage my workflow across two programs.


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You can prepare print presets with these formats and print them in .jpg files, why absolutely want to create cropping presets while the printing module can very well do it and at the same time, you will be able to record its "impressions" as collections, it's more practical, it will allow you to find them easily in the catalog LR Classic!


Texte original en français :
Vous pouvez préparer des presets d'impression avec ces formats et les imprimer dans des fichiers .jpg, pourquoi vouloir absolument créer des presets de recadrage alors que le module d'impression peut très bien le faire et par la même occasion, vous pourrer enregistrer ses "impressions" comme des collections, c'est plus pratique, ça vous permettra de les retrouver facilement dans le catalogue LR Classic !

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The Any Crop plugin lets you create named crops. It also lets you prepare multiple crops for a set of photos all at once, in batch, which you can then individually adjust if needed.  

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154 Points

a year ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom Classic: Name for custom aspect ratios in Develop module.

I appreciate that this has appeared as an idea before, most recently aboutr 2 years ago but it is such an obvious improvement I make no apologies for renewing it...I would like to be able to name custom crops in Lightroom Dev module. That's it. Easy. Thank you.

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60 Points

a year ago

Just to keep the interest going, I would love to  be able to name custom crops in Lightroom. 

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362 Points

8 months ago

Nine years - I'm going to be dead before this gets implemented. I'm in Coronavirus lockdown atm and have a bit of time on my hands. I have an old Laptop and am about to start installing Linux to give Darktable a try. There is a Win 10 version - but it's broken and there is very limited support. I believe the Linux version is well supported. No idea if they have Custom Crops... we shall see. Stay safe everyone.

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62 Points

3 months ago

9 years... NINE! 

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456 Points

they are most likely waiting for the 10th (... or 15th)  anniversary to introduce it as a great new feature)

27 Messages

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362 Points

Shame we can't see the exact date of the original post - we could have a 10th birthday party!

Champion

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Hover the mouse over "Posted 9 years ago".

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1.3K Points

3 months ago

Hello Adobe!!!!  Is there anybody out there?  Get this done!