Lightroom Classic 9.2: Default Development Settings (ISO specific)

Some reading for you: 
https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/help/raw-defaults.html#SetrawdefaultsspecifictoISOvalues

Hope it helps.

Camera based ISO dependent RAW profiles are now in the Presets TAB of Preferences.

I have just completed a somewhat thorough test of how this works. I have three different RAW default files for three different camera bodies set up in Prefs. In the top section under "Master", I have the preset I used to use for all files.

First, I removed the preset for "Apply During Import"

When I import RAW files, everything gets set correctly for the three camera bodies. This works as expected.

Next, I imported a group of images in RAW from these cameras along with a few JPG files from my cell phone. This time, everything gets set correctly for the three camera bodies but nothing at all is applied to the JPG files. The preset in "Master" on Prefs is not used.

Next, I put the old preset I used to use back into the "Apply During Import" and again imported a group of images in RAW from these cameras along with a few JPG files from my cell phone. This time, everything gets set to the old "Apply During Import" preset and ignores the RAW presets.

So, it seems that when I have both types of files, I need to run separate imports and remember to turn the "Apply During Import" preset on for cell images and off for RAW images.

Seems to me, this does not work in a way that is conducive to hasterning my workflow. I love the ISO dependent abilities. My suggestion to how this should work:

One Way: As I have a preset for "Master" and then 3 RAW setting for 3 camera bodies, when Importing, the RAW presets should be applied to RAW images from the 3 cameras and the preset in "Master" should be applied to anything not RAW from any camera, listed below or not. In addition, somewhere it needs to tell users that setting a develop preset in "Apply During Import" will override and RAW defaults!

Another Way: As I have a preset for "Master" and then 3 RAW setting for 3 camera bodies, when Importing, the RAW presets should be applied to RAW images from the 3 cameras and the preset in  "Apply During Import" should be applied to anything from any camera not listed below in Prefs.

The way it is now is not only confusing but upsets my workflow of Importing.

Here's my video tutorial on how to set new raw file default edit settings with the new method in Lightroom Classic. Those old defaults that you set up do not carry over, so do set them up under the new system!

You can still add ISO-specific settings to the camera default, but you need to do this by editing the preset in a text editor. I hope that will change to a more convenient way in the future. What you need to do is the following: Scroll all the way down to the end of the preset and replace the last three lines with (for example) the following lines:
<crs:ISODependent>   
  <rdf:Seq>
     <rdf:li
      crs:ISO="400"
      crs:LuminanceSmoothing="0"
      crs:ColorNoiseReduction="0"
      />
     <rdf:li
      crs:ISO="1600"
      crs:LuminanceSmoothing="10"
      crs:ColorNoiseReduction="15"
      crs:SharpenEdgeMasking="10"
      />
     <rdf:li
      crs:ISO="6400"
      crs:LuminanceSmoothing="30"
      crs:ColorNoiseReduction="15"
      crs:SharpenEdgeMasking="25"
      crs:ColorNoiseReductionSmoothness="100"
      crs:Blacks2012="-10"
      crs:Clarity2012="10"
      />
    </rdf:Seq>
   </crs:ISODependent>
  </rdf:Description>
 </rdf:RDF>
</x:xmpmeta>

Can't believe this function has taken such a big step backwards..  it was so simple before, to create a 'default' setting for each camera depending on ISO..  It was really handy being able to have default noise reduction applied without me having to go through each image manually...  (yes, its better to inspect each image in detail but in my line of photography, I don't have time to perfect images immediately, so a ball-park figure of noise reduction is good enough).

This new method doesn't simplify the process at all, in my opinion, and just adds a tonne of extra unnecessary steps to do LESS than we were able to before.. 

I know how to edit text files..  don't get me wrong, but I don't want to waste time HAVING to! 

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom 9.2 update big disappointment re Develop presets by ISO.

I need to say this update is a disappointment. Prior to this release, for years, I have been using develop presets by camera by iso. They worked great.  With the release of L'room 9.2 puff they are now usless and no longer work.

Adobe has now given us the opportunity,  to learn how to write code in xmp files in order to get back our develop presets by iso.

Who thought of doing this?

Could Adobe not have made the new way an option and let the old way continue?

Could they have offered a wizard to create develop presets in 9.2 so we can get back our delevop presets by ISO?

Could they made a sample available that we could edit for our own particulary camera?

Of course they could have done all of the above, but they didn't even offer decent instructions.

Dear Adobe , I want to spend my time doing photogrpahy not learning how to write code in XMP files.

 

Please take a step back, soon,  and try to figure out how to fix this mess created by 9.2 and then please communicate it to  your customers.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled user develop preset assigned to ISO missing, sabotage suspected.

I had develop presets assigned to ISOs 100-6400 for two camera bodies. It was simple to assign a preset to an ISO for a given camera. Now I have to know how to edit xml files to get the same result? Why REPLACE a function that works just fine and may have a substantial number of users when the new, more complex, difficult to use functionality could be ADDED?!

Very frustrated with the update! The previous method of setting default develop settings was WAY easier to understand, now it is all a crippled mess. I've been using LR for 8 years so I consider myself proficient with it, but I can't figure out how this new default setting system is supposed to work.

As I attempt to make this work for me and for my students, I noticed another confusion. In the Camera Raw section of Adobe Lightroom in the Roaming Appdata. There are two folders - Settings and Imported Settings (see image attached). Does anyone know how LR gets its preset data? Does it use Imported Settings or Settings or both and in which order... 

The new process required in Lightroom Classic 9.2 is an infuriating regression. 

This is the most baffling update to LR in many years. It's straight-up a removal of functionality without replacement; yes, editing .XML exists, but that's not a solution for most users. Even as someone who is by now well versed in hacking Adobe's programs ot bits to restore functionality, having to edit .XML for seven different cameras is hardly what I'd call convenient. The new 'function' doesn't do anything the previous version didn't do, it's just swapped a single button press for a menu and asks us to swamp our presets tab with settings for each camera.
The fact the update didn't at the very least automatically generate new import preset files with our old settings is really, really insulting. So even if you like the new method and want to go ahead with it, you've still got to go set up your defaults for each camera again.

It is plain pig-headed arrogance of Adobe to think that their arbitrary defaults would not just be preferable to our own defaults, but so preferable that our own defaults should be removed without consulting users.

It's nonsense like this that is why Capture One's userbase has doubled in the last year. I'm sick of Adobe's insulting updates. I've never seen a software developer go so out of its way to insult its customers.

How is anyone now meant to believe that there is a serious team behind ongoing LR's development?

Please check out the ISO Dependent Preset functionality released in the June 2020 edition of Lightroom Classic. https://theblog.adobe.com/june-photography-releases/
Details here: https://theblog.adobe.com/streamline-edits-with-the-improved-raw-defaults/

Rikk this is great news do you know where I can find instructions to do ISO dependent presets in the new L'room release?
The links you sent tell me what Lightroom can do with develop presets but it doesn't tell me how to create them. It says we no longer need a photo for each ISO setting.
Hopefully there  are text instructions from Adobe or a video that tell us how to set the up