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3 Messages

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102 Points

Tue, Oct 31, 2017 8:36 PM

Lightroom CC is not Lightroom.

The new Lightroom CC is like trying to foist Photoshop Express on us in place of proper Photoshop. It's jamming a mobile app into a desktop environment. We've lost easily navigable tabs; the histogram is less prevalent and clear. Forget trying to manage a catalogue in this new app. This is not an app for professionals like the one most of us have come to trust.

For those of us with a huge amount of experience in Lightroom proper, this is massively concerning. The redesignation of Lightroom proper as "Classic" signals that it's on the way out (as has been the case for nearly every other software out there that's seen a subversion and redesignation). This move has lost Adobe a lot of my trust, and I'm really worried about having to figure out a new catalogue manager if support for Lightroom "Classic" is pulled out from under us.

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33 Messages

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588 Points

3 years ago

Hear! Hear! Maybe Classic is part of a plan to shift us all to ON1. Classic surely seems unduly beset with bugs; it's at its alpha stage.

3 Messages

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102 Points

Haven't heard much about ON1. Have you had much experience with it?

33 Messages

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588 Points

ON1 is an up and coming Lr/Ps-like image processing system. It does not have the cataloging prowess of LR, however. Check it out at https://www.on1.com/

42 Messages

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954 Points

I am currently reviewing On1, Luminar and Capture One for a probable move. Does anyone know if any of those have plans to become a subscription service?

So far I like them all for various reasons. I'll need some time to see the new Luminar release on 11/16 before I can decide.

22 Messages

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414 Points

I think lightroom cc is really an add-on for devices like phone and tablet. I work that way and it works a charm. Classic on desktop, cc on ipad and phone. Loving it!.

146 Messages

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2.4K Points

You dont loose desktop version of Lightroom (now Classic) so what’s the problem? They have added an early version of a cloud based program, that you dont have to use at all. I agree its more like the mobile version, but Adobe have said it will mature over time. It’s still useable though.

41 Messages

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964 Points

3 years ago

I see what they're trying to do, but I don't like it. First, I don't want or need Adobe to host all my photos in the cloud. I watched a video yesterday that said you could buy 1TB of storage from Adobe for $10 a month, but then I searched and couldn't find any way to add storage for Adobe Lightrooom CC. 

But, even if I do add storage (which I won't), I don't want my entire Lightroom catalog on my phone and tablet, as it would eat up too much storage on my devices, and I'd have to purchase duplicate storage from Apple as my devices fill up with gigabytes of data. 

I think Lightoom CC is a bust, even if they port all the features over. They already have Lightoom Mobile for the iPad and iPhone, and when you create mobile collections in Lightroom "Classic" CC, they also appear on devices when you open Lightroom CC. 

I don't need it ALL in the cloud, and I don't want ALL of it in the cloud. Not until my iPad and iPhone have 4TB of flash. 

166 Messages

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3.5K Points

3 years ago

I only have 70ish GB up there Scott and it takes up less than 1GB on my phone, plus the cache can be cleared to make that smaller. Depends how much you edit etc.

22 Messages

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414 Points

3 years ago

There is a lot of doom thinking going on... Applications change and we change along with them. It does not make sense for me that Adobe would stop the desktop version. Newspapers, magazines, Ad agencies all use PS... Why would Adobe kill their golden calf? Stop the whining already, try to evolve with the application. There is waaaayyy tooooo much money involved for Adobe to kill of their desktop version... 

139 Messages

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2.9K Points

And on the other hand, if people don't say what they are thinking and worrying about, how are Adobe to know?

6 Messages

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190 Points

Sorry Catherine, the discussion is about Lightroom not Photoshop and it's not whining, it's a discussion on how large business and graphic professionals manage workflows for their businesses. Maybe whatever Adobe comes up with in the future is fine for you but for many of us a cloud based workflow does not make sense. Because I manage a large photography based business I can not afford to just assume that Adobe will not stop making the desktop version, especially when all the signals seem to point to that is exactly what they are going to do. The question is when. 

22 Messages

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414 Points

O sorry, I had the wrong program in my mind. I am saying the same thing as you do, that a cloud based workflow is not working for photographers or companies with big amounts of photographs. I would be in a serious pickle too if they discontinue LR Classic with 18.000 or more shots a year. I am just in a more positive mindset. Photoshop and Lightroom are the industry norm, I am kind of confident that they will give us some alternative app should they decide to kill the desktop versions. I just can not imagine Adobe being that stupid... Maybe I am naive... :o))) Why not just wait it out a little and see where they are going. Totally cloud based is not workable when working with high end cameras, and I for one am not putting all my eggs in the cloud basket. I want my stuff at home on my drobo's. I bet Adobe knows as much as we do that desktop versions are the only pro way... 

6 Messages

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190 Points

I agree, jumping ship today is like jumping off a cliff. Don't need to panic and I hope Adobe comes up with a more defined strategy that addresses everyone's concerns. That said I will be looking at alternatives. This is not something new, it's prudent business management. There are a lot of new options coming online and I want to understand what's out there so if I need to make a change I not making a rushed decision.

322 Messages

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7.5K Points

" I just can not imagine Adobe being that stupid..."

Really? It was their stupidity ... or at least less than thoughtful selection of naming conventions and poorly planned marketing presentation that has caused this issue and all the confusion that has occurred since.

It's a bit unfair to paint your fellow Adobe software users in a negative light because they express concern as a result of an inept and poorly executed effort created by multi-national, multi-billion dollar corporation that seems to employ a less than stellar marketing staff along with an incompetent executive staff that approved it all.

Not the first time Adobe has shot themselves in the foot because they dropped the ball on presentation and planning. Much of this negative discussion could have been easily avoided if the decision makers in San Jose had a clue about their end users beyond how they factor into their stock option bonus deals.

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3.8K Points

3 years ago

A survey on how current customers feel about switching from LR "Classic" to the all-new LR CC:

https://lightroomkillertips.com/lightroom-name-change-tip-lightroom-classiccc-survey-results/

Not necessarily to be taken as the universal truth, but definitely food for thought, isn't it?