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Mon, Dec 3, 2018 1:11 PM
Lightroom: Auto settings pretty useless
In the previous iteration of LR, Auto tone would lower the contrast on pretty much all of my images. In the present one, it does the same thing but also makes the image darker, even if it is dark already. It shows absolutely no discrimination from image to image. In its current incarnation it is pretty much useless.
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John_R_Ellis
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When I first starting using the Auto Tone feature in Lightroom Classic CC, I found it worked really well and was very near to what I wanted.
But recently I've found it tends to darken too much. It seems to bung the Highlights slider down well enough, but it doesn't move the Shadows slider up much at all.
I've had to use Jeffrey Friedl's 'Bag-O-Goodies' plugin to tame things down with the Exposure and Contrast adjusters too. If I leave those to default it's even worse - the Contrast only ever seems to go negative, and never into positive values.
It almost seems that the more the Sensei AI function is learning, the less able it's becoming. On that note, does anyone know if the Sensei Auto Tone use data based on your own image adjustments, or is this a global thing?
I've noticed a lot of anomalies with some of the updated processes though, the latest Colour Profiles and Process Version 5 are producing some very strange and undesirable results. Perhaps it's all linked.
In my case the files affected are varied, from 15 year old Olympus E-1 ORF images to slightly less old Nikon D5100 NEF images, as well as a fewFuji RAF ones too.
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Here's a link to a Dropbox share with the originals and after Auto Settings have been applied: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xiawqbh3pi8hbm3/LR%20Auto%20problem%20pics.zip?dl=0
I have to apply Auto Settings, then go into Develop mode and spend time adjusting, which basically defeats the purpose and value of Auto Settings.
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When I use the Auto Tone function, Contrast is consistently set to a negative value, never does it go positive.
I use Jeffrey Freidl's Personalised Auto Tone in the Bag-o-goodies plugin:
http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/bag-o-goodies
I set the contrast in that to be zero, and you can set others parts of the tone settings too. I also find the shadows adjuster doesn't go high enough, so set that to 130%.
Some have reported that it does work better with the Adobe Color profile too, which I find it does, so I use that as a default setting, and then reset to a camera profile later in the process.
That's another thing I find too, the Adobe Color profile oversaturated some colours, and kills shadow details too.
It's consistent with older ORF raw images as well as slightly newer NEF raw images.
Of course Auto Tone should only be considered a starting point, so some adjustments should be expected. However, I would hope it could get nearer than it does.
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Andy
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