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Sat, Jun 21, 2014 4:51 AM

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Lightroom: Ability to use 3D LUTs

I'd love to get the ability to use 3D LUTs in Lightroom, now that those can be created in Photoshop cc 2014.

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122 Points

6 years ago

this is a great idea! Also it would be great if you could apply multiple 3D LUTs to a photograph.

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62 Points

You can't in photoshop? In affinity Photo LUTs are adjustment layers. 

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858 Points

You can in PS but you can't in LR

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180 Points

6 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled 3D LUT's in Lightroom!.

Hello! I really like the features in Lightroom and how raw files can be manipulated. Although, there are some that I personally miss, such as the ability to apply 3D LUT's and working on raw files with layer adjustments. These would very nice to see in future version of Lightroom. Thank you!

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124 Points

6 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled 3D Lut in lighroom develop module.

If it be possible to add a 3d lut files in develop module of lightroom it would be amazing! I think it would broaden the possibilities of lightroom so much, and speed up photographers workflow. Lut's from Photoshop and software like 3D Lut Creator would give it so much more editing options.

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180 Points

6 years ago

Well, generally 3D LUT's are applyed over a converted RAW file in LINEAR mode, wich is TIFF (or JPG). While Lightroom applyes pressets and setings before the raws are converted, most of raw converters out there are working with convertet tiff files in linear mode. It's a simpler way and gives good result. So the problem is that Lr work with its proprietary algoritms to convert raws and there is no way to aply a LUT before a raw file is converted, simply because Lr doesn't have the necesary tools, nor the algoritms are the same as Ps or Premiere or the softwares that convert motion picture raw's like Red or Apple. Even if Lr would allow to use Lut's they would look so much diffrent than what should they look. Lightroom should give us the option to choose how our raw files should be convertet instead of thinking that we can't understand how raws are working and how the colors are achieved. Here is so much to talk about... For instance I wasn't able to get a perfect LINEAR image out of Lightroom, simply because they are oversaturated before conversion and saturated in such a manner that low saturation colors looks undersatureted and those that are saturated result blowned up after contrast adjustmens in Ps.
This are problems that will never get fully resolved with todays Bayer sensors because RGB filters cannot be perfectly pure. I think thats why Camera raw/ Lr saturates the raw output. So we have to thak to Adobe for the amasing Ligthroom even with its flaws. Can't whait for Lr 6!
If you are interestead, you can read more information on these sites:

http://www.vision-color.com/visionlog/ (somewere on google I found a torrent with these LUT's, so you can try them. They didn't gave me perfect result in many scens)

http://www.colorneg.com/MakeTiff/

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180 Points

6 years ago

Why is there a need to start from a linear image?! Just because we need a standart, a convention to work with. We need a start point to which we calibreate out LUT so it will work every time with any camera in any image/ video editing software that support 3D LUT's and gives the same results. Just to see how a real linear image looks...

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858 Points

4 years ago

+1! There should be the possibility to apply LUT to a photo in LR . The LUT should be applied as the final step in the processing of the photo (to the rgb converted file)

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80 Points

4 years ago

This would be really awesome for the Film community!

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166 Points

But for photo community too!!

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166 Points

4 years ago

This is my n°1 request. Applying a LUT in Lightroom would be a dream come true. And shouldn't be that difficult to implement.

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100 Points

4 years ago

Yes! The film community uses tools like LR and Photoshop regularly to pre-visualize. Adding the ability to apply 3D Luts as a preset to stills would be that much more powerful for us. I already have the ability to purchase, download, and use custom presets (take VSCO, for example) from third parties. But this ability would mean consistency  between the post team and the LUTS the camera crew and DIT uses on set - therefore a very powerful and simple way to share color grading options with fellow filmmakers. Thank you!!

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95.5K Points

4 years ago

Note that you can apply LUTs with Photoshop, so the workflow in LR would be: select photo, do Photo > Edit In > Photoshop, apply the LUT, save. Not as convenient as having it built-in to LR, and it does require that you have Photoshop (e.g. with CC), but it gets the job done.

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106 Points

4 years ago

This is a feature I google for everytime I open lightroom, please, please, please let us have the simple ability to apply a LUT and a basic strength bar, if every single mobile photo app in existance has such functionality with 'filters', and with Lumetri and PS working great with LUTs, I don't see the persistence in excluding such a feature from the program that totes the best performance with the most convenient workflow.  As sad as it sounds, I've even resorted to exporting lut edited jpeg frames through Premiere Pro to avoid the hassle of my PS actions.  LR team come on guys you can do it! <3 

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60 Points

4 years ago

Surprised this isn't even implemented yet since Adobe PS has had this way back in 2014 and this is a joke...

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60 Points

4 years ago

YES go for LUT's in photoshop!

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It's not clear from your comment -- you do know that Photoshop can both create LUTs and apply them?  Whereas LR can create LUTs (using a plugin) but it can't apply them.

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858 Points

We would like to apply LUT in LR! :)

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Agreed, that's what everyone in this topic clearly wants.  I'm just clarifying Tomas' comment, both for his sake and that of future readers who come across this thread.

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60 Points

4 years ago

I'm another vote for implementing the application of LUTs in Lightroom not just in Photoshop.  I use a Sony FS7 and Sony a6500 in my work, and I often use the a6500 to shoot family photos (and to keep working on learning to be fast with that camera...), and for both professional and personal use I would love to be able to apply a LUT to my S-Log2 and S-Log3 photos AND videos.  Shooting test stills using the same 3D LUT that I plan to shoot in video would also be extremely helpful.  

More and more cameras are coming out with the abiltiy to shoot in Log modes, both video and photos.  I don't know, but I suspect that Lightroom is more in use by a wide spectrum of photographers and video/cinematographers, from amateur to pro, than Photoshop.  As the new cameras come out (Sony alpha, Panasonic GH5, etc), don't cede the field to some rival to come along and make the intuitive interface photo editor/library application that can apply LUTs. That's what we expect Lr to do.

Come on, Adobe!  This thread is THREE YEARS old! 

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" would love to be able to apply a LUT to my S-Log2 and S-Log3 photos AND videos"

Can you say more about which LUTs you'd like to apply?  Are they LUTs that convert the S-Log color space into the standard Rec 709 color space, LUTs that provide creative looks, or something else?  (I'm exploring whether to add the ability to apply LUTs to my Export LUT plugin.)

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858 Points

For me it would be any kind of LUT. In particular converting from log to rec709 is not my primary goal with photos. I would prefer artistic/creative LUTs.

By the way LUTs would not be so useful on export. They would be great inside LR. On export they are better then nothing :)

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"By the way LUTs would not be so useful on export."

The Export LUT plugin creates (exports) LUTs from LR develop settings and develop presets.

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60 Points

3 years ago

Amen to LR adding LUTs to the workflow. It's understood the imagery has to be converted to linear via TIFF or JPG to apply a LUT, cannot be applied to RAW inside of LR, but never mind. The choice to apply a LUT in LR, whether to visualize what will show up downstream or to simply to apply some fix to photos made possible with LUTs, can be simulated in LR via proxies, which it already does (RAW files are unaffected), then implemented upon export in the conversion process. This only makes good sense to add to LR. 

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858 Points

LUT shouldn't be applied to the RAW file. It should be applied as an optional step during the image processing . Even if LR processes the images as 16 bit ProPhoto RGB, LUT can be applied.