sravan_nerella's profile

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2.6K Points

Fri, Jan 13, 2012 2:56 PM

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Lightroom: Ability to create custom book templates/sizes from scratch

Provide a way to create new pages completely from scratch by laying out the position of the picture frames and text frames instead of using just the provided templates. I like to do my own layouts that match the text.

Also can we have double page layouts where they are linked and cannot be broken apart.

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418 Points

6 y ago

A more flexible book module would have been much more useful than other features in version 6 like face recognition.
Why is Adobe giving priority to promoting Blurb instead of giving customers the ability to create book pages with custom page sizes and custom layouts that can be printed with other suppliers?

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246 Points

6 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Flexible book layout.

Could we have the ability to take Lightroom's page layouts and be able to move around the photo cells? I love the layouts that we are given but sometimes I need to move a picture over to make the book balance. I know that Blurb's software gives you this ability, so I would love if we could have it too.

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418 Points

6 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Add a flexible book module with flexible page sizes and custom layouts to the nex....

Adobe should admit that it was a mistake to continue offering a book module that can only be used with Blurb. This is like restricting printing to a single print service.
It would be very simple to add basic flexibility for defining book page sizes and custom layouts, at least as already offered in the print module.
Is Abobe's relationship with Blurb more important than Abobe's customers?

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112 Points

6 y ago

I'm pretty sure that they have some sort of a deal with blurb. I now think of it as the "Blurb Module" and it helps me. As a blurb module it does do extra stuff that makes it helpful. But as a book model it is very disappointing and does not serve much if any real purpose. As a new user who reads what is in Lightroom, like I did when I started this thread, it is frustrating, as I had expectations of being able to design a book or album in Lightroom.

Maybe instead they could just change the name and stop advertising it as if it is something that a pro could use for a client, and make it more of an extra that someone might use if they happen to want to make their own little book, or to make a quick on screen demo for a client of what their book might look like, then it would be pretty cool.

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3K Points

6 y ago

I agree with most of the points here.

1. I use InDesign but would prefer to do books in Lightroom for lots of workflow efficiency reasons.
2. I am not overly concerned re Blurb, but I agree ... it should be called the Blurb module.
3. My personal nickname for Adobe is Adobe 80%. Adobe do a good job doing the first 80% and then get lost and take another 10 years to do the next 10% and so on. So, so many examples across the entire creative suite.
4. I am depressed as usual that the Book module has been left literally "on the shelf".
5. It is clear that a lot of effort went into the initial book module, a pity its overall template design was so badly flawed and misconceived.
6. A lot of good stuff under the hood in Lr6 / CC. The only new feature I see useful is the panorama merge, clever to hold the details in a dng file. As this was already in Photoshop, most of the new features are badly needed improvements in the core architecture of Lr. Having waited patiently so long for a new release, I have to say I am disappointed.
7. I do not use the Book module. Lots of people I know avoid this module also.
8. I can create really good pdf's. word docs, html pages using Microsoft MailMerge with Word or Publisher. It is really simple to create a page template and merge with a file created by John Beardsworth Lightroom plug-in called ListView. This does a good job for me of placing images on a page with professionally formatted Title, Caption, Date,Time, Copyright info relative to the image. To me this is a sad workaround. Adobe could so easily do the right thing here.
9. I still do not understand why the mobile version does not allow me enter metadata and lock an image if I am happy with its current status from further developments. This is real usable stuff.

I suspect many people who are serious about books already have InDesign. I would be happy to pay for a pro version of Lightroom which had a functional book module. Also, I would happy to purchase a dedicated Book app.

So, I will set the alarm clock for another 2 years or so and see what the next version will bring.

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3K Points

6 y ago

Following the release of Lr6, I am just reviewing my personal wish list relative to the top requests in this forum. I notice this is in the top 10 requested by users to Adobe, but has been ignored completely in LR6.

This request was originally posted more than 3 years ago.

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418 Points

6 y ago

Searching the web about this topic I found some information about the possibility of creating custom page sizes and templates for the book module by editing template LUA files that can be found in the Program files\Adobe\Lightroom folder.

I have not tried it yet, but if it works, it would help in cases when when the user needs just a few custom templates and book sizes, and it is willing to go through the trouble of creating these templates.

You can find some information at:
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1254145
http://www.lightroomforums.net/showth...

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3K Points

6 y ago

When the Book module was launched initially and this issue arose, Adobe promised publically on one of their forums that they would publish a means by which templates could be adjusted. As far as I am aware (and I am eagerly open to correction) that has never happed.

For me, modifying templates is just a poor workaround. It will cause an iterative approach to dealing with small adjustments needed on individual pages, depending on the nature and size of images and text. It would be worse than the "padding" solution. Real world needs the ability to tweak templates on the fly on a page by page basis, and if the need applies tweak and save the relevant template as well.

As there was not an official Adobe means to deal with this I can use InDesign. As this is too labour intensive for me most of the time, I only produce books under extreme duress. If the Book module was more usable, I would create a book for every project I do, trip I take, etc. Bottom line, if Adobe are getting a percentage of revenue from Blurb for books created from the Book module then they are losing at least 95% of the potential.

Thanks for the links, I will explore later in the week, when I will have some breathing space.

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744 Points

6 y ago

Based on the methods Santiago linked to above, a while back, I started working on a web based tool that would allow at least for the creation of custom templates.

The idea was to use this tool to create custom layouts, download the template file that you would add to Lightroom's templates folder, and then use them as needed inside Lightroom's Book Module.

I went as far as having a working user interface prototype, but then stopped working on it because I was sure Adobe would include it in the new Lightroom version.

This wasn't the case, so now I am thinking maybe I could resume working on it. You may view a preview here: http://pagebuilder.27shutterclicks.com

The struggle I was having with it was finding a way to convert jquery into Lua, maybe via some kind of parser that would allow for the generation of the needed file.

Since I am not that familiar with Lua, I was wondering if anyone else had any suggestions on how to go about it. I know there are some skilled people around here that are more familiar with Lua tools and Lightroom development.

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276 Points

6 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom photo book module: editable page layouts.

I am building several large photobooks (200+ pages) from RAW images in Lightroom. I love direct integration of the book capability into LR because color corrections made in LR are directly applied to the photobook. I am also impressed with the stability of the module; my last book exported to a 1.2GB PDF with 1000+ images and never crashed.
However, I am unendingly infuriated by the inability to modify the page layout. The template collection is helpful but is never sufficient to meet the needs of a given page -- there are always tweaks needed.

When can we have the ability to modify photobook page layouts in LR?

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80 Points

6 y ago

I agree with you. Until Adobe gives us variable Slideshows, Books, and Webs, I will go elsewhere.

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162 Points

6 y ago

I gave up hope of Adobe making improvements to the book module and have taken the painstaking steps of building my book pages in Photoshop and incorporating them into Lightroom.

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100 Points

6 y ago

I just downloaded LR6 hoping to use the Book module for the photobooks for my clients. I am glad i just downloaded the trial version cause the options are so constrained and very few options with sizes. It is disappointing and i certainly wont be paying for the full version.

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246 Points

6 y ago

I have the exact same issue, I already use Lightroom and I'm forced to export my photos to create books for my clients.

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3K Points

6 y ago

Sadly, I have reverted to using Microsoft Mail merge for 90% of my needs, which allows me to put images, titles and captions, where I want, with fonts, character sizes and alignment professionally laid out.

After a shoot, I do a quick selection, add Titles, Captions and Location info in Lr and export to jpg. I use the Lr Listview plug-in to export this info to a text file. I have a Macro in Word which then with a single click creates my document. I then save this to PDF.

I can fine tune the Word document as required. I can have this completed in draft form and emailed to the client within an hour of finishing the shoot.

I use InDesign when I want to craft a book. I would produce a lot more books if I could choose where to place images and text within Lightroom, so if Adobe are getting a percentage of Blurb sales then they are just losing more and more business.

There are huge advantages to keeping this within Lightroom, which I would prefer to do, but Adobe obviously choose to allow us suffer with the current crippled module and only provide lip service to the concept of workflow.