sravan_nerella's profile

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2.6K Points

Fri, Jan 13, 2012 2:56 PM

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Lightroom: Ability to create custom book templates/sizes from scratch

Provide a way to create new pages completely from scratch by laying out the position of the picture frames and text frames instead of using just the provided templates. I like to do my own layouts that match the text.

Also can we have double page layouts where they are linked and cannot be broken apart.

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537 Messages

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12.8K Points

7 y ago

Actually I do make use the MAP module and am satisfied with it's implementation. I geo-encode all my images. I was doing this way prior the introduction of the Map Module using external software (I capture tracklog data with a WBT202 device and use GeoSetter SW to add coordinates and location keywords to image files). The map module can do pretty much the same thing although it doesn't have quite as many bells and whistles. Out of habit I continue using my old workflow but have replicated it with the Map Module to see if it worked. Even though I don't use the Map Module to do the actual encoding, I do use it for finding my images and tweaking locations.

I 100% agree about the need for Metadata management capability in the LR Mobile, but before that they need to expand to the Android OS (I think this first release is Apple only). I do find it quite puzzling that the main usage of LR (as an image management tool) was not included in V1. But, this certainly now answers the question of "why did they bother with smart previews" a release ago. Obviously LR Mobile was on the drawing board and this was a critical component to make it work. They already had "Export from catalog" and "Import from Catalog" so I'm not sure what the road block was in including Library module functionality (or at least keywords, rating and ranking) in V1.

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3K Points

7 y ago

I was very excited about the ability to add gps data to images a long time before Lightroom existed and had this embedded in my workflow. I purchased various tools based on their ability to handle gps data. Now, if I need a gps tag I simply take a photo with my iPhone. I set my cameras to UTC, irrespective of what part of the world I may be in, so it is always easy to reverse geo tag any image. I have a bunch of gps devices, some quite expensive, collecting dust in a dark corner somewhere.

I think Smart PreViews are a smart move for lots of reasons. Maybe some day they may provide the basis for an enterprise and properly networked version of Lightroom with a real database back end.

I am very critical of the incompleteness of the Print and Book module because these are basic workflow needs. Kudos to Adobe for releasing the iPad module in Ver 5 (even though in my view it is incomplete and really a beta test drive for hopefully more mature functionality in LR 6). If the rating flags were included I could use this app, as it stands LR mobile is just a pretty a icon on my iPad. How
frustrating.

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92 Points

7 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Feature request: custom photo book layouts in lightroom like Aperature has..


I've been an avid Lightroom user since the first beta. And I recently took a class that helped me see the importance of making photo books for my clients. However, when I tried to make a photo book in Lightroom, I discovered that most online clients gave me much more ability to customize my layout that Lightroom. And I'm currently considering a switch to Aperture since finding that it handles this need to fully customize photo pages and spreads with ease.

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142 Points

7 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
LR5 book module - custom book size.


Lightroom is a fantastic tool in my workflow, and it would be great if there would be an easy way to create custom sized books. I'm printing most of the photos with an epson 4800 in different formats, or using other services than blurb (as probably most of lightroom users). So now - it is extremely inconvenient trying to modify the .lua profiles or exporting the photos to other applications like acdsee fotoslate.

Adding this simple 'custom size book' feature would improve lightroom as a tool for many photographers and book designers.

The integration with blurb is fantastic, but you are limiting your great book module to a blurb book module, which for most users doesn't make sense.

Is it possible to include 'custom sized books' option in the near update to lightroom?

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114 Points

7 y ago

I would love to have a better book module in lightroom. I offer wedding albums to clients and like to completely stay within lightroom to edit the album. I wish there was a way to build your own templates and put photos anywhere. I also would like the option to export as a spread instead of individual pages.

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202 Points

7 y ago

What I don't get is why Adobe and Blurb went half-$!@$%.

1. You've limited book options. Not all sizes are in there.
2. You sort of allow custom layouts, but not really. You can make the layout smaller only and you can only adjust it from the center.
3. Yeah, the PDF option???? Who's that for?

Besides that, it's such a convenience to make a book in LR.

But why limit it? Why?

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3K Points

7 y ago

I can only assume a proper Book Module will limit sales of InDesign. I use InDesign, but can see massive advantages to having a proper Book module inside of Lightroom. Alternatively, I would gladly pay for a new module or application which did a proper job of providing book generating features, where I do not have to generate intermediate jpgs and sharpen them correctly for the final output size.

I sense Adobe got the design wrong at the start, but there has been multiple opportunities to correct this by now, therefore I feel Adobe are happy to leave the book module crippled.

A statement from Adobe on their plans for the Book module might be helpful.

The only new feature I see myself using with CC 2014, despite the fanfare, is the rating option in Lightroom mobile and then only occasionally. Adobe's implementation of the Book Module has been a lost opportunity. With 90% of the effort invested! why Adobe do you not finish it properly.

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202 Points

7 y ago

Yeah, good thoughts.
If you're gonna do it, do it right. Otherwise don't offer it at all.

If you're worried about InDesign, then just scrap the book module.

Bigger issue is that Adobe really has no competition right now.

I wish Aperture kept it going and offered a comprehensive system for Pro photographers with the ability to design books for all the major vendors built in as well as fully functioning plug ins for all the online gallery site.

Adobe is now just trying to sell to everyone and is losing sight of the larger picture for pros. That's just my opinion and I am very frustrated.

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3K Points

7 y ago

I have deep skills in application development for small medium and global enterprises. It saddens me to the core that Adobe give lip service to the principle of efficient workflow, but mostly they talk the talk, not walk the walk. I can outline so many examples. They go to the 95% in so many areas and then jump on the next fashion wave before they finish a job properly.

I will await the next release of Lightroom before commenting any further.

Frustrated and depressed.

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202 Points

7 y ago

HI Matt,

Exactly!

Hey, want to get even more frustrated? Check out Zenfolio, Smugmug, Photoshelter, etal...

If you ever want to develop something, let me know. I have ideas. Seriously.

My rants...
https://vimeo.com/channels/768091

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364 Points

7 y ago

Dear Adobe,

How good is Blurb in bed? Just curious. (I mean, I suppose they must be pretty exciting, since they're definitely not much to look at..)

Anyway, looking forward to a professional book publishing feature whenever you guys finish.

-MT

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12.8K Points

7 y ago

I see we agree that there is probably a monetary "Arrangement" between Adobe and Blurb involved in the issue. I extend that thought to include some sort of exclusivity agreement for a period of time.

LR does allow PDF output of books which, as you correctly point out opens the door to other companies.

I don't particularly concur with your opening paragraphs though. A print lab is a somewhat different animal than a home printer. Not that the printing is inherently different but the interface between the author and publisher is. With a home printer, they've pretty much standardized the data stream format (post script?) across all platforms and vendors and this works pretty well for printers connected directly or through LAN's to the computer.

However, I'm not sure the situation is as uniform in the commercial publishing business - I'm not saying it isn't, I just don't know.

But however you slice it, there must be a fundamental underlying reason that Adobe has not chosen to improve their first version of the book module by allowing additional output formats, dynamic book sizing, custom layouts, or even multiple print lab vendors. In my experience, whenever a corporation makes decisions to either do something or, as in this case, not do something it is either based on contractual requirements (e.g., agreement with Blurb) or they just don't see a positive return on investment - or not "as positive" as something else they want to do like implementing the CC.

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246 Points

7 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom Book Module more flexible layout.

Will there be an update that will allow Lightroom to be more flexible with the page layout? I know that BookWright has very flexible design options that are lauded by reviewers, it be great to have that in Lightroom. I am paid to create books for people and would love to be able to do it properly through Lightroom.

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246 Points

7 y ago

I understand that Lightroom doesn't want to give custom page sizes because then Blurb would lose their exclusivity. However, once we are using Blurb why cant we have all the design options that the real Blurb has? Why go only halfway and leave the a great idea unfinished?

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164 Points

6 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled We are still waiting for a completely flexible Book Module!.

Adobe, why oh why haven't you introduced a flexible Book module? The forums are full of this complaint. I don't use LR book module as it doesn't allow for flexible text and photo layouts. One should be able to create a page layout to suit the purpose. I have to rely on outside sources for my books. If your Book Module stats are down, that's why.