sravan_nerella's profile

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2.6K Points

Fri, Jan 13, 2012 2:56 PM

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Lightroom: Ability to create custom book templates/sizes from scratch

Provide a way to create new pages completely from scratch by laying out the position of the picture frames and text frames instead of using just the provided templates. I like to do my own layouts that match the text.

Also can we have double page layouts where they are linked and cannot be broken apart.

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62 Points

8 y ago

Hi all
Me also I shared the idea. I really hope LR5 will have those features, but from the beta it seems not. Anybody has some news?

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134 Points

8 y ago

LR5 is already out but the Book module has none of the requested customisation features... sigh, they never listen.

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86 Points

8 y ago

Can we have some standard page sizes at least for PDF / JPG?
Right now, there are 5 Blurb sizes.

What about A4, Letter (so we can print on a normal printer)?
What about some standard sizes used by other printers?
What about custom sizes?

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1.3K Points

8 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
LIGHTROOM: Book Module Custom Templates.


The addition of custom template creation was a welcome addition in LR5.2. Unfortunately you didn't go far enough. We need to be able to create cells and move them. Also the handling of text is very cumbersome at best. We need text addition capabilities like the Print and Slideshow Modules with broad metadata extraction capability. Julieanne Kost's Lightroom 4 workaround by creating templates in the Print Module and saving them to the Book Module as images is too, too cumbersome. We need Custom Cells and Custome text creation and saving as Auto Flow templates.

Also Autoflow should be able to flow at minimum two different templates, one for landscape orientation images and one for portrait orientation images.

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162 Points

8 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Book module in LR5 is EXTREMELY LIMITED and needs improvement!.


The Blurb method of bookmaking is EXTREMELY LIMITED and lacks the ability to customize pages (such as adding more photographs to pages, moving photo layouts around, placing text boxes in various places across the page, etc.). Apple's Aperture 3 currently offers this and it is great! Their book module allows for COMPLETE PAGE CUSTOMIZATION.

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418 Points

7 y ago

The book module should allow the user to create custom layouts and the freedom to set page sizes. Choices for borders for individual photos should also be given. These are very basic features that should be included. The absolute minimum would be to have the same options as the print module.

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192 Points

7 y ago

Custom Page Size is really required. Blurb's printing service is a joke, no good quality at all.

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196 Points

7 y ago

I don't have an issue with Blurb, their quality is ok, though they are a bit behind the times as they don't do a lie-flat page option.

The only issue I have is that we don't have any sensible control over page layouts and I simply can't do the designs I want to in the book module compared to the stand-alone book creator, which makes it worthless to me.

The really annoying thing is that level of control is there in the print module already!

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1.3K Points

7 y ago

I agree. We need flexible layouts. In addition we need layouts on various size papers. I wanted to do a layout on 8.5 x 11 paper and Blurb doesn't allow it, just 8 x 10. We should be able to do layouts like the Print module.

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64 Points

7 y ago

I haven't used Book in Lighroom for a while and imagine my surprise when trying the new version and discovering that it's become much more restrictive with the latest updates.

Doesn't Adobe care about the users outside of the US? I don't know what Blurb is and don't care...and everyone needs more size options to choose from.

Maybe I missed on something, but now when I exported a page from Book as jpg I couldn't choose a size for it, and I got a jpg size 693 × 594 which is way too small for my needs.

Anyone have some tips for this? Where did I go wrong?

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112 Points

7 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Lightroom 5: Custom book and page sizes for folks that don't use Blurb..


Book module desperately needs, at the very least, user defined custom page sizes (forget the book cover) when printing to JPEG and not to Blurb. Let users define the page size or spread the safe guides for bleed. The automation included in the book module is fantastic and would save untold amounts of time manually doing book layout for printing to professional labs and bookbinders. At the moment there's no way to create anything other than Blurb's standard book sizes even if you're not using Blurb. Nuts.

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262 Points

7 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Lightroom 4: Book publisher variety, Please!.


I'd like to point out that, in Lightroom 4 beta, allowing a book to be exported as a PDF is probably worthless. As most book publishers manage to have unique book sizes, only Blurb has the sizes in the current book module. This wouldn't be worth diddly as a PDF sent to another publisher. Please consider either incorporating proper templates for more book publishers or allowing plugins from those publishers that will let the user determine where they want their book produced. Did you notice that Blurb uses CMYK?????? Not nice when coming from ProPhoto RGB.

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3K Points

7 y ago

I have given up on Adobe on this one. They have all the tools to make this very slick.

We have all the metadata in the Lightroom catelog, but cannot place it properly on the printed page in the Print Module.

We get tiny incremental improvements to the book module, but Adobe do not seem to be prepared to address the elephant in the room, which is.... allow text boxes and image boxes to be placed as the user wishes on a book page and allow these book pages to be used as a template. Ok... the intial design of the book module may have been flawed from this perspective to get a sub optimal (I am been gentle) product to market, but there has been ample opportunity to correct this by now.

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12.8K Points

7 y ago

Obviously Adobe has had bigger fish to fry, such as creating and launching the Creative Cloud (no small undertaking) - then weathering the outrage from photographers related to the price of the Cloud (now re-mediated by the Photographers subscription plan).

I have no insights into Adobe (although I worked for them for 4 years in the 90's) but my speculation goes like this.

1) Adobe decided to compete with other consumer image SW products in the non standard output arena and decided to do books and web.

2) As Adobe is not a "printing" lab, they needed a partner to do the actual printing.

3) They did some research and were able to cut the best deal with Blurb. Perhaps with constraints and restrictions (exclusivity for a number of years?). But certainly with estimates of the new business Blurb would get (what's in it for Blurb)

4) To meet the next release date for LR, they slammed together what they could in the short amount of time available as most of the time had slipped away negotiating with Blurb and probably other vendors. Anyone who's worked on projects for big corporations know what I'm talking about on this one.

5) Uptake by users was not as vigorous as anticipated (perhaps due in part to the weak implementation).

6) Some Harvard MBA was brought in and did an analysis that determined in this day and age of everything "Cloud" and "Kindle", the market for physical books was not likely to grow very much and that this was not the place for continued investment, especially as it may take resources away from the development and launch of the CC and other projects centered around electronic delivery of media

7) CC launched and as with all such things has taken the best part of a year for the dust to settle

8) Now, (several years after Book Module first appeared), usage has not increased (self fulfilling prophecy from consultant?) and Blurb is pissed that the work they put into the book module implementation has not resulted in the expected new revenue. So, even if Adobe approached them with Part B, they may not be interested in throwing good money after bad. And, Adobe may be thinking the same thing.

9) Result: Don't expect much (if anything)

Anyway - That's the screen play as I image it played out.

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3K Points

7 y ago

Thanks for the detailed response. I have got past the point where I have any expectations in this area.

It is fairly sad that the Blurb standalone software is better than the Adobe book module in most respects. I suspect a lot more money has been spent on the Adobe Book module, but in my view their application architect got it wrong, so a lot of money wasted.

I also think a service provider should do a job properly or not do it at all. Half baked software is worse than half baked food.

I do not know who was looking for Maps module, but possible the same MBA was in on this. If the effort to produce the map modudule was invested in the book module then maybe we would have a book module which drives throughput. As far as I am concerned, these modules just bloat the basic app.

I know it is early days for the ipad module, but why have all the Develop features in a machine which is hardware constrained and ignore the very basic Library features, especially ranking, which the ipad has the potential to do a good job. So, the iPad module is also a non runner for me. I am not overly upset about this, I can bring a MacAir when I need to. I assume it will evolve with time, as solid state devices become the norm. Right now I only use the Library, Develop and occasionally the Print Module.

The best present I could hope for in LR 6 would be add real world usability to the Print Module, Book Module and the Library component of the iPad module. Version 7 can explore new modules again if the marketing people need to tick a few more boxes.