sravan_nerella's profile

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2.6K Points

Fri, Jan 13, 2012 2:56 PM

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Lightroom: Ability to create custom book templates/sizes from scratch

Provide a way to create new pages completely from scratch by laying out the position of the picture frames and text frames instead of using just the provided templates. I like to do my own layouts that match the text.

Also can we have double page layouts where they are linked and cannot be broken apart.

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100 Points

9 y ago

There is no use for the bookmodule without customisation of pages. I would also be happy to habe a double page layout.

Thanks!

Chris

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62 Points

9 y ago

Hopefully a template builder will be available in LR5.

It's flexibility is badly needed....

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100 Points

9 y ago

Any book module should include the most popular sizes and ebook capability. I tried using the book module with createspace.com (Amazon) and it was a nightmare. I ended up with something usable by adding extra columns but the cover ended up a bit squeezed.

Industry standard trim sizes:

Full-color interior books:
5.5" x 8.5"
6" x 9"
6.14" x 9.21"
7" x 10"
8" x 10"
8.5" x 8.5"
8.5" x 11"

Black and white interior books:
5" x 8"
5.06 x 7.81"
5.25" x 8"
5.5" x 8.5"
6" x 9"
6.14" x 9.21"
6.69" x 9.61"
7" x 10"
7.44" x 9.69"

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208 Points

9 y ago

In the current form, Book module is useless.

Primarily because of lack of custom page sizes for JPEG/PDF books.

I could live with the fixed layouts, but the fixed pages sizes are a restriction, which makes the module utterly useless: online print shops use all kind of different paper sizes and mine doesn't offer ANY of the sizes Lightroom forces me to use.

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278 Points

9 y ago

Extremely disappointed.

I bought Lighroom 4 specifically because of its Photobook function, including the possibility to export pdf Photobooks, so I would become independent from individual photobook producers.

I had read that Adobe decided to only support Blurb (maybe getting quite some money from them for this effort to restrict their paying customers?), but given the pdf option, it still seemed better than using custom photobook software by individual vendors, which might no longer be supported in a few months/years and has no export functionality.

What utterly surprised me though are the restrictions and limitations of the Photobook module. It almost seems like Adobe is doing this on purpose to tie their users to Blurb.

How can a software like this be released
- without supporting custom (or at leas European) page sizes? You are selling this software in Europe, even at a significantly higher price than via your US website!!!
- without support for custom layouts? Even the simplest vendor-provided software solutions offer this.
- without easy and reliable support for text blocks?

What makes the situation worse were the promises many months ago that more flexibility would be provided soon (luring customers into buying LR 4) and then the complete turnaround, saying that the effort for Adobe is too much and the creation of custom templates would be too difficult for your users anyway.

If it was easy to return software for a refund, believe me I would. It's a pity that an otherwise well designed software has one module as flawed as the photobook module. As I bought it specifically for that module, the product is next to useless for me.

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172 Points

9 y ago

I'd like to be able create custom layouts too - particularly being able to move text and image placeholders. I'd also like to see the ability to link text fields to EXIF data. Thanks.

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62 Points

9 y ago

I would really like to be able to create completely custom page layouts from scratch in the blurb book module in Lightroom 4, and/or customize existing page layouts more fully and save as a new page layout. If I use BookSmart on the blurb.com website I would have that option, why not from within Lightroom?

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Fully custom layouts in blurb book module.

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142 Points

9 y ago

I would like to add my support to the points already made very well and in full above. I was very happy about the arrival of the book module and much prefer staying in the application and being able to edit books within the application, i.e. without exporting and with the full benefit of quick adjustements to virtual copies. But the limitations imposed by the the restrictive template-only approach are fairly extreme. We obviously should be able to create cells - both photo and text - of any size anywhere, to add as many as we want, to be able to overlap them, and to change their size and proportions as we wish. As it is, this feels like something aimed at low-end consumers (though I am not even sure that navigating the templates is actually easier than simply dragging photos onto an empty page and being able to do whatever you want with them). One telling aspect of the templates is that often the result will only look good with the (default!) option of 'zoom to fill' - which readily assumes that the composition of the photo is easily up for grabs, while arranging pleasing page layouts for multiple photos in their original, deliberate poportions can be almost impossible. Templates should work the way they do in other modules: they should be useful for inspiration and quick editing, but should in no way restrict the artistic design and possibilities.

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112 Points

9 y ago

I want to print a book, but I don't want to use blurb. The company I want to use prints on 8x11 paper but that is not a one of Blurbs page sizes so I can not seem to use it.
I contacted Adobe and they said that the book module was really only meant for Blurb and that they could not help me. I was actually told to check with Blub to see if they could support me...
Does anybody know if there is anyway that I can use the blurb module for anything useful (assuming I don't want to use blurb), or is it just something pretty to look at and to anticipate as an actual usable feature in Lightroom 5?

Any plugins, or any way to create or upload a new templet?
I know this question was asked before, but it was not answered, it left off with something along the lines of 'maybe they will answer this soon' Thanks for any help. By the way, after years of reading boards, this is my first time ever posting to one.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Lightroom: Can I change page size in the Burb module/ Book module to 8x11?.

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1.8K Points

9 y ago

Hi, As you suggest in your 2nd paragraph, the Book Module in LR4 is, IMHO, nothing more than a place holder for a "coming attraction" - like a preview trailer in the movies. Right now, interesting to look at, hopefully a hint at what is to come, but for all practical purposes not currently usable for any serious purpose.

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72 Points

9 y ago

Unless you're happy to use Blurb (which is good enough for some...) then I recommend just forget about the Lightroom book module. It seems like Adobe has changed their response a time or two since LR4 came out. My take is that they don't really have a plan, although maybe they get royalties from Blurb so that's all they'll ever do. See what they do in 5.

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62 Points

9 y ago

Having used Booksmart this was my main reason for purchasing Lightroom 4. What a let down! I pretty much agree with all that has been said by others.

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82 Points

9 y ago

Die Zusammenarbeit zwischen Adobe und Blurb ist sehr begrüssenswert. Leider entsprechen die Gestaltungsmöglichkeiten in Lightroom 4 / Buch nicht denjenigen der blurbsmart-Software. Ich würde es deshalb sehr begrüssen, wenn die Gestaltungsmöglichkeiten in Lightroom 4 mittels eines Updates ausgebaut würden.

Beste Grüsse

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Lightroom: improve design options for photo books from Blurb.

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110 Points

8 y ago

Is it me or it's just impossible to resize, enlarge or reduce the photo cells?

How could Adobe release something so restricted like this? Even my $0.99 Diptic app on the iPhone and OSX allows me to simply drag, resize and zoom in on each photo and each photo cell!!

Of course Diptic cannot beat the convenience of Lightroom with its custom collections and direct link to multiple versions of images, but are you serious?! No resizing or changing the photo windows/cells?

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1.8K Points

8 y ago

No, it's not you. It's just that the Book Module is not ready for prime time and it's lack of functionality really drags down the overal impression of LR many have of what is otherwise a wonderful product.

What is very odd is that LR does have most all of what is needed over in the Print Module where, when using Print Package and Custom Package layout styles you can resize cells as well as move them around and have them overlap. Why they couldn't adapt that technology over in the Book Module is a mystery. Maybe the Book Module developers are on a different floor in the Adobe building than the Print Module developers.

However, I suspect that there were issues working within the boundries of the Blurb API that prevented full functionality in the initial roll out. The key, IMHO, will be what shows up in LR5 now that they've had time to work with Blurb to overcome some of these shortfalls. Of course, Blurb may be disappointed in how few orders they've gotten through the LR Book Module and may not be all that interested in investing more development time working with Adobe on these problems.

I guess we'll just need to wait and see. For me, right now it's sort of a "Watch this space" module. If LR5 comes out without giving us full creative control of page layouts, then my view will change to "Ignore this module and remove it from the Module Picker"

Dan