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3.4K Points

Mon, Apr 27, 2015 6:04 PM

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Lightroom: Ability to batch process Photo Merge (HDR and panorama)

Now that we have HDR inside Lightroom, with virtually no user input, the next step is surely a batch facility for a folder full of bracketed images.
Please!!!!

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90 Points

5 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled LIGHTROOM - A WORKING HDR FUNCTION.

I know this has been suggested already, but it would be great to have:

A WORKING HDR FUNCTION

With simple features like batch processing and a better use of system resources, come on, this is 6.4 and we still have to select bracket after bracket, LR becomes unresponsive when you try to do more than 12-16 processes at the same time, activity monitory shows that it makes little use of my 128 Gigs of ram or 12 available cores, neither does it make any use of the GPU when available. This should be addressed by now!

Thanks in advance Adobe

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140 Points

5 years ago

Put me down for requesting a batch capability for LR HDR function. This is pretty much useless for me without batch capability. Until this gets implemented, I am stuck using Photomatix -- a decent enough tool, but not a great one. Help us out, Adobe.

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74 Points

5 years ago

Hi.

This is script for quasi batch HDR merging in Lr. It is written for AutoHotKey.

1. Install AutoHotKey
2. Save script in text file using .ahk extension
3. Edit script accordingly to number of images in HDR sets, number of HDR sets, power of your computer
4. Load script (run it as you start any application)
4. Go to image folder in Lightroom and make sure first photo is selected
5. Press SHIFT+H
6. Don't touch your computer till end of process - go for coffe, for a walk, sleep etc.
7. Be happier. :)

How to edit script?
This one is for 6 sets 3 photos each. If sets have 4 images change each {right}{right} ocurrence with {right}{right}{right}.

sleep, 35000 - this command is for waiting till Lr end merging previous set. If you have faster computer, you can change 35000 (miliseconds) for 20000 (miliseconds) for example. Better to check this time in tests and add a couple seconds - Lr slows down when many sets in queue and can stuck.

So this two  lines:

   send, {shift down}{right}{right}{shift up}{shift down}{ctrl down}h{shift up}{ctrl up}{alt down}{right}{alt up}
   sleep, 35000

are for one HDR set.

Just copy this as many as many HDR sets you have.

I suppose more sophisticated script can be written with pop-up parameters dialog box. Does someone want to play with it?

That's all. Have good sleep. ;)

Ps. I count 1$ per saved hour of your life. ;)

---------------------------------------------------script------------------------------------------------
+h::

   send, {shift down}{right}{right}{shift up}{shift down}{ctrl down}h{shift up}{ctrl up}{alt down}{right}{alt up}
   sleep, 35000
   send, {shift down}{right}{right}{shift up}{shift down}{ctrl down}h{shift up}{ctrl up}{alt down}{right}{alt up}
   sleep, 35000
   send, {shift down}{right}{right}{shift up}{shift down}{ctrl down}h{shift up}{ctrl up}{alt down}{right}{alt up}
   sleep, 35000
   send, {shift down}{right}{right}{shift up}{shift down}{ctrl down}h{shift up}{ctrl up}{alt down}{right}{alt up}
   sleep, 35000
   send, {shift down}{right}{right}{shift up}{shift down}{ctrl down}h{shift up}{ctrl up}{alt down}{right}{alt up}
   sleep, 35000
   send, {shift down}{right}{right}{shift up}{shift down}{ctrl down}h{shift up}{ctrl up}{alt down}{right}{alt up}
   sleep, 35000

return

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100 Points

Is this script working on OSX as well?

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74 Points

If AutoHotKey has OS X version... I don't know.

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5.1K Messages

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93K Points

Autohotkey isn't available on Mac.  There are several equivalents available in the app store, though.

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100 Points

John, can you recommend any app from the app store? Have you allready tried it?

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306 Points

I used to use Autohotkey on windows and loved it. I believe there is something called AutoKey for Mac but I have not had the time to try it.

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84 Points

5 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom: Queue operations (e.g. HDR merge) when out of RAM.

If I start 15 HDR merges at around the same time, Lightroom uses more memory than my 16gb of RAM, and it ends up taking ~5 minutes. If I start 5 merges, it only takes 20 seconds.

Instead of queueing operations once it gets to capacity, Lightroom is trying to get more virtual memory and the PC ends up thrashing (constantly swapping RAM to disk). This is really slow (about 5 times slower on my machine).

It would be nice if Lightroom was aware of memory usage, or at least let you set a limit for concurrent jobs.

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1.6K Points

5 years ago

I have found the magic number for MacBook Pro with 16gb RAM i7 processor, to be about 12 concurrent jobs. Still seems to push through jobs quick enough...

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6.3K Points

5 years ago

Auto stacking and batching of Panorama and HDR content would be incredibly useful. I would greatly appreciate the feature!

Adding in the ability to automatically color/flag/rename the resulting batched files would be a welcome addition as well.

Thank you

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1.6K Points

^yep!

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102 Points

4 years ago

I don't think I could do my job without batch processing. I use PTGui Pro for HDR business panoramas but the one thing it lacks is a good quick ghost removal. The tests I have done with LR HDR really produce a superior final image, but without the batch HDR processing 200+ images each shoot would have me losing hours out of my day.
It's a huge feature to have. It would surely make Adobe more sales for those who make HDR photos their living.
+1 for batch processing.
 

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230 Points

I'm with you 100% Cathy. PTGui has gotten much better in the past few months. It's still better than anything else available!!

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264 Points

Unfortunately for external apps, to my knowledge only LR is able to do the raw-ish processing without freezing develop settings into a tiff - no one else can apply the proprietary acr engine.

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150 Points

4 years ago

Yes, pls add batch processing HDRs

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102 Points

4 years ago

Adobe please hear our cries for HDR batch processing! We need it!

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264 Points

4 years ago

I can do nothing but concur - LR doing everything in parallel is total stupidity, do Adobe really expect people to sit in front of the computer to wait for an op to finish, then manually start the next? We need a batch-queue mode that appends operations and processes them one after the other ... not limited to hdr/pano, but for export, too.

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216 Points

I know right. There is so much I could rather do while Lightroom is batch processing my HDR files. 20-60 HDR files a day takes alot of effort infront of Lightroom ATM.

PLEASE. Hear our pleads!! Save hours of mindless junk work.

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382 Points

4 years ago

The irony of this is that creating a queue to sequentially process these couldn't be easier.  It's something programmers do all the time.  Yes, there are things to worry about such as the files could be deleted before they are processed, but that's unlikely and all you have to do is queue up error messages (like it does for export, with the error messages about files not accessible at the end.

There are so many awesome, hard to implement features in Lightroom, take a break and do the easy one!  Give us a HDR processing queue.  It's also a matter of performance!

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216 Points

Well said.

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694 Points

4 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Camera Raw/Lightroom: Merge to HDR - Sumultaneous Merge to HDR of multiple stacks....

Give Lr the ability to batch-process
multiple 'bracketed image stacks' simultaneously with 'Merge to HDR'. (eg. useful for
Real-Estate photography)

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376 Points

This is not the answer we are looking for as it still bottlenecks.  Additionally, some of us use ACR.  The batch feature in PTGui is a good example of what Adobe should offer.

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As I wrote, it is a partial workaround that helps many people work faster.  I agree that it is not a complete solution for what many want.

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82 Points

4 years ago

Either batch process or que my manual input. How anyone uses this feature professionally is beyond me.

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264 Points

Probably no one does, for batch use it's inevitable to use a 3rd party tool like AutoPano which has superior stitching anyway.

Still, it's embarrassing that after so many versions LR is still unable to queue operations but insists on doing everything you start in parallel - this applies to exporting and tagging, too.

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330 Points

yup the parallel instead of sequential is very dumb
i can only get 3 lots of tasks going before my pc stops working.
why you cant choose sequential is beyond me.

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Sequential would require some sort of queuing mechanism, the ability to view and add and delete things from the queue.   Right now you get a few little progress bars under the identity plate and if you add too many your machine stops working so there isn't much need to limit the display.  

With a queue there would be an unlimited (or large limit) to how many "jobs" could be queued up and there'd need to be a different UI and some way to understand what each job is and some sort of locking that keeps you from removing or moving or otherwise changing the photos that are part of a job that has yet to run. 

I think queuing would be great, too, but it is an added complication. 

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134 Points

Any software engineer with a skillset of a schoolkid can write a queue manager before lunchtime. I'd venture to say that a global enterprise like Adobe could pull it off without adding too much complication or the need for a complete code refactoring :-o

What the lack of some sane queuing  does show is the same as their doomed new import dialog: new LR customers are estimated to be casual users that certainly won't process more than one hdr or pano at a given time ... but want to online sync their baby photo collection or edit snaps on a smartphone. The "official" solution to this thread "just skip the dialog" says as much.

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Someone who can spell queue would probably be ok in figuring out what to do with whatever clumsy UI.   Someone should be able to use it without knowing what a queue is, though, so it's probably more an issue of design philosophy not coding, although I'd guess LR code is a mess by now to adding queueing wouldn't be trivial. 

It seems like the simplest thing would be to limit the number of simultaneous batches and let the others wait.  Unfortunately if it's like everything else, the limit would probably be something hardcoded and hidden, or calculated by LR based on memory or CPU cores and hidden, not something the user could specify in Preferences.

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80 Points

4 years ago

Please add some sort of batch processing to the HDR feature. I currently use stack but still going through and having to HDR each stack is time consuming. I love the look we get from LR HDR vs other 3rd party software. Like many others though I find myself having to go back to these other programs just for the simple batch process. While the results are not ideal the workflow is simpler and depending on what you are doing and the amount of work involved sometimes the pay is not there for the extra time. 

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264 Points

Strike! In the latest and greatest LR 6.7, you can develop smart previews even if the original is available. Connection to batch processing: They did it by popular request! And as another option, bound to confuse users and cause mayhem with the harassed support! 

Now please add another option "Limit jobs processed in parallel to: _", would you kindly?

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140 Points

Any chance you could clarify this post?

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264 Points

> Any chance you could clarify this post?

Could you please clarify which posts you're talking about (mine or Tommy) and which parts you'd like clarified specifically? Thanks.

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140 Points

I just couldn't understand what you meant (LR Fanboi). Rereading your post, I think you are saying that Adobe has failed those of us who want panorama and HDR workflow improvements.

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264 Points

@Bill: Well, here's the official clarification from me :-) ...

... you can already start as many hdr or pano ops as you want, i.e. batch process.  The problem simply is that LR insists on doing all of them in parallel. If the user could limit the operations done in parellel to a certain number, the user interface already works as a queue manager (click on the top left big bar to get the little bars).

All it would take is to add one option - just like the one Adobe has just added to only process smart previews. If this was done by popular request, I'm amazed no one from Adobe has stumbled upon this and similar threads yet. Or they simply re-position LR as a casual photo app and don't expect users do really do a lot of batch photo merging.

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306 Points

4 years ago

Come on Adobe. It has been over a year since I last posted on this topic and still no decent batching.

I am totally tired of having to use Photomatix. It does a good job but it totally disrupts the workflow.

I just completed a job where I had to HDR over 1000 images (virtual tour). Your customers want to be able to do this in LR!!!

Today I am downloading https://macphun.com/luminar 

It doesn't have batching yet but when it does I am jumping ship.

-Dennis

PS I hate subscription software.