Lightroom 7.3: When changing presets the profile resets back to Adobe standard, even if profile isn't checked within that preset

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It has some terrible bugs in it. When changing presets the profile resets back to Adobe standard, even if profile isn't checked within that preset. It is making editing a real pain.
LR is also crashing. Please fix these bugs quick as I have tons of work to get done!
Is it possible to roll back a version? 7.3 can't be used in this state.

Note: This conversation was created from a reply on: Lightroom Classic 7.3 is now available..

I'm not able to reproduce this. If I create a profile with "Treatment & Profile" unchecked and apply the preset, the profile is not changed.

Can you provide more detailed steps to reproduce or create a video of what you're doing so we can try and reproduce?

The only time I can reproduce something like what you are referring to is if the Preset has a Camera Profile included in it. Then when applying that preset it changes whatever camera profile you assign the image in the Profile section of the Basic panel.
I don't see an easy way of editing out that camera profile except to right click on the preset and select Show in Finder/Explorer (Mac/Win File Manager) and then open the XMP file in the text editor and remove the camera profile entry.
This only works for preset not created and supplied by Adobe.  Although if you go directly to the folder the Adobe supplied preset are in you can delete and or edit the XMP file.

I don't have camera profiles in my presets and it is still causing a problem if the preset contains anything else in the basics panel.

I have realised that the functionality of the "treatment and profile" check box is actually the opposite of all the other checkboxes. If it is not set then it will change the profile back to adobe standard. If it is set then the profile stays as it was. Seems a bit odd to change the operation of this check box out of line with all the others.

Also the standard lightroom presest supplied by adobe can not be moved or deleted and they take up a lot of valuable real estate at the top of the presets panel. A lot of users will never use these and there needs to be an option to move or delete them.

I cant do a video but have an easy example.

Produce a preset to change the profile to black and white.
Produce a separate preset to change the clarity to +10 only (nothing else checked)

Select first preset to get black and white profile.
Select second preset for clarity and the profile changes back to Adobe colour.

In the second preset nothing else has been set so nothing else should change. However, if you select "treatment and profile" in the second preset then the profile is not effected. That is the opposite functionality to all other check boxes!

I can reproduce that between B&W and Color, but only on JPEGs so far, not raw.

Nope, the treatment and profile checkbox resets all the sliders so that is messed up too!

Thanks for bringing the issue to our notice Adam and Victoria. We are on it.

Regards,
Ruby

Hi Adam,

I have found that I can reproduce your issue if I start with one of the Legacy Profiles.



After choosing one of these profiles clicking on any preset causes the image to revert back to a color profile. 

For example:

1. Start with a raw image (CR2)
2. Apply Adobe Standard B&W Profile
3. Apply a vignette preset
4. Image changes to color Adobe Standard.

If you start with Landscape B&W it reverts to Camera Landscape after the preset is applied.
If you start with Neutral B&W it reverts to Camera Neutral after the preset is applied.
etc. etc,

Does this match the behavior you are seeing?

In other words, it only works if you use a raw image and start with one of the Legacy B&W profiles.

Let me know it that is what you are seeing.

Rick

Yeah now I am seeing this too.

Also, my Custom DNG Profiles are gone!  I need those for my infrared processing.  When I go to Calibration to set a custom profile, only four "Versions" are showing.

I Have the same problem - https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2473824
LR 7.3 changes profile from BW to Color even when it is not selected in the preset

Really hoping Adobe pay attention to these bugs, seeing a lot of disgruntled professional photographers in forums and groups now.
But there is another big one, what have Adobe done to the API to prevent midi controllers from working? This now ruins my whole work flow!
Only one preset can be applied. If another is applied it resets the previous one!

Example:
preset one has exposure +3 ONLY
preset two has clarity +20 ONLY
If they are pressed in order then preset one, exposure, is rest to zero!

I have simplified this example. If preset one contains a lot of settings then they are all rest to zero when preset two is pressed. Making editing with midi controllers impossible and its the only way to get through hundreds of images in one day.

Adobe, PLEASE fix this. It's urgent!

B&W Preset needs to by "resaved" - this solves the problem (for now):
1. use one of your old B&W presets (Adobe Standard BW profile)
2. change profile to one of 17 profiles in BW section
3. set amount of profile effect to zero (0%)
4. update your preset

After this works LR fine with my B&W pictures combined with other presets

Yea almost any combination of presets except a preset that itself defines black and white conversion will revert the image to color. So a RAW file changed to Adobe  Stanard B&W or a JPEG is to Monochromeafter applying a black and white conversion preset. Then apply any other mod preset like one that only adjusts exposure and it reverts back to a color profile like Adobe standard.

If the classic profile Camera Profile is defined in the same Exposure presets, it does remain black and white but all black and white sliders revert to zero.

It's not hard to reproduce this. The only way bugs this big get thru is when developers don't bother to test their work or correct the problems that arise.