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Fri, Jan 3, 2014 2:31 PM

LIGHTROOM 5.3: Dynamic Collections based on Title containing dash "-" no longer work

Hi,

I just upgraded to Lightroom 5.3 (coming from 4.4).

Everything seems to work fine except for one little issue that annoys me a lot.

I give titles to my photos and some of these titles contain dash "-" (e.g. "week-end").

Based on these titles I create dynamic collections to group photos sharing the same title (+ other criteria).

When the title does not contain dash "-", it works like a charm but when it contains a dash "-", the dynamic collection does not find any corresponding photo.

In Lightroom 4.4 it worked perfectly.

Thanks for your support!

Best regards,
Arnauld Le Carbonnier.

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7 years ago

Seems OK to me (win7/64) - perhaps you could post your smart collection rules (preferably by exporting .lrsmcol file, but screenshot is another option).

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7 years ago

Hi Rob,

Thanks for your answer.

Here is a link to 2 Dynamic Collections: one that works "OK" and one that does not "KO":

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8...

I appreciate your feedback!

Best regards,
Arnauld Le Carbonnier.

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7 years ago

Hi Arnauld,

I took your smart collection definition for a spin (KO). It did work for me after a bit of massaging ( and of course manually assigning matching metadata, since I didn't have your photos to go with it ).

I don't know what changed in Lr5 vs. Lr4.4 in this regard, so I can't comment about that. What I can say is that Lr has some bugs in metadata handling, and those combined with operator mis-understanding/error (and changed handling / new bugs from version to version) can really make for some confusion.

That said, one of the things that can really foul things up is mis-understanding how spaces "work" (or "don't work", depending on your perspective).

Not sure what to say, except as a work-around, I'd consider using AnyFilter (or SpaceUrchin) since they handle space and other characters (including '-' no doubt) correctly. Also, SmartColluder may help you to debug your smart collections.

If you want, please post a link to an xmp file that I could use to assign title metadata to a photo which "should" match the previous KO.lrsmcol smart collection rules. That way, I could corroborate a bug, or whatever...

Rob

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7 years ago

Hi Rob,

I just discovered that after updating the metadata on a photo, it miraculously appeared on one of the "KO" Dynamic Collections.

After that, I decided to update the metadata for all the photos of my catalog (it took a while) and now everything seems to be back in order.

Lesson learned: after upgrading a version, try update the metadata!

Anyway thanks for your support.

Best regards,
Arnauld Le Carbonnier.

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Hi Arnauld - that's good to hear! :-)

How did you "update the metadata"?

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Hi Rob,

I simply select all my photos in the Grid view of the Library module and choose Metadata > Save Metadata To Files

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Hmm - I'm surprised that would have a repairing effect. - thanks for the info Arnauld.

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You are welcome!

PS: do you know how to indicate the subject is solved?

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If user really has to update metadata after upgrading version to get things back in order, it should still be considered a bug, until actually fixed by Adobe. But the answer to your question is: Adobe or their agents do the deed.. - Cheers, Rob.