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230 Points

Tue, Jun 18, 2013 6:16 AM

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Lightroom 5: Healing brush sources from outside cropped area

When you have cropped an image in Lightroom 5 then want to use the healing brush it will sometimes take the source from outside the crop area.

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35 Messages

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642 Points

8 years ago

I find it nearly always selects a source area outside of the crop area if you're using the brush rather than the spot removal tool, especially if you're near the edge of the crop area.

This wouldn't be so bad if there were an easy way of relocating the source inside the crop area, but pressing the '/' key to select new source is a hit and miss affair!

87 Messages

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2.1K Points

8 years ago

This is expected behavior. The Spot Removal tool will search the entire image area for the most appropriate heal/clone source, irrespective of the currently applied crop.

35 Messages

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642 Points

I don't mind that so much, but when it gets it wrong, and it very often does, there's no easy way to change the source area without leaving the Spot Removal tool, and re-cropping the image to include the source so you can move it! This is very inconvenient!

946 Messages

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13.8K Points

Actually, there is - the forward slash "/" key will cause it to reselect the source. Just hit it a few times until it selects a source you like or selects one inside your crop so you can select it yourself.

35 Messages

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642 Points

Yes, as I mention above, this is a fairly hit and miss affair of doing something that should be very simple!

64 Messages

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894 Points

So the developers' intention was that the source area should be outside the user's reach?

Using the entire image area as potential source area is acceptable if - and only if - the user has access to that area while using the tool. And I don't see a reason for not implementing that: Show the entire image area while using the healing brush. Even if the tool hasn't automatically selected a source outside the crop area, the user may want to.

This is a typical design bug:
The software functions as the developers intended. But the developers had the wrong intentions. This type of bug is the worst type because it rarely get fixed.

87 Messages

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2.1K Points

Just to be clear, as I mentioned, the current behavior is as designed. That said, I agree that this aspect of the Spot Removal workflow can be improved, and have delivered this feedback to our engineers. Please look for improvements in this area in a future release.

4 Messages

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102 Points

Wasn't expected by me. Don't recall ever running into that in previous versions either. Glad to see it's going to be fixed (hope I interpreted your last comment correctly).

4 Messages

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102 Points

8 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Spot Removal Tool Taking Source Spot From Outside Cropped Image.


Using spot removal tool in LR 5 on a cropped image, LR picked a source spot outside the cropped area. This leaves no way to move the source location without uncropping the image, moving the source, then re-cropping. Would like to see LR 5 updated to limit the spot removal source to within the cropped area of the image.

16 Messages

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372 Points

8 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Lightroom: Spot Removal Tool Challenge.


Was playing with the new Spot Removal Tool today and discovered a challenge. If you crop the image first, when adding healing areas LR will sometimes choose a replacement area from outside the crop window. While it's possible to move the area to be healed, there's no way to access/move the replacement area as it's outside the viewing window.

5 Messages

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174 Points

6 years ago

Would like a key to show area outside crop and indicate where crop is.

FWIW my work-around was:
Create a virtual copy
Choose develop mode for the original
Reset the crop
Do the spot healing
Copy develop settings (crop info only) from the virtual copy
Paste these into the original
Delete virtual copy.