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602 Points

Sat, Mar 18, 2017 2:04 AM

I ask this on behalf of the community. When will adobe fix the overall DOG SLOWNESS

When is Adobe going to develop a new version of Lightroom that is not laggy, pathetically slow and garbage?  I have been dealing with extreme slowness now ever since Lightroom CC hit the scene.  

Do Adobe realise how many hours i lose when editing thousands upon thousands of photos and have the program lag all the time?

Every time you release a new version addressing "slowness" and that you have apparently fixed the "slowness", i never see a single change.

I own the fastest, best iMac you can get.  I have a late 2015 iMac 5k specced as high as it can go.. it was around $5500.
I also own a 12 core xeon chip PC with 128GB ram that cost $8500.

On both of these machines Lightroom still lags to high hell.  Don't even start with "troubleshooting".  It is your software.

Photoshop is magical fast now.  Why can't you make Lightroom the same? 

The community is tired of sub par updates and excuses.

FIX THE SLOWNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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60 Points

4 years ago

Check in Preferences under File Handling Tab on the bottom under Camera Raw Cache setting what is your Maximum Size. With it to the Maximum of 200.00 GB if you have that many GB available on your main Hard drive. Also make sure that your Graphics Processor is checked on under the Performance Tab. I understand that the work is faster if you process Smart Preview images instead of the originals. Good Luck.

163 Messages

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3.2K Points

4 years ago

I'm with you Michael R. I'm on the verge of closing my business down due to the steady increase in the time it takes me to complete post. I'm losing money and Adobe are directly to blame. The community is very helpful with workarounds and tips designed to lessen the impact of Adobe's crappy coding but, meanwhile, Adobe just ignore us and keep doing whatever it is they're doing, not addressing the problems and feature requests. Unfortunately, I'm sure losing my individual subscription won't hurt them too much. Certainly not the way closing a once-profitable business will hurt me and my family.

799 Messages

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11.5K Points

4 years ago

As a Mac IT guy for over 21 years I can tell all of you something that you may not have realized: it's your OS, (or maybe database size). Start by running Onyx & Disk Warrior, or do a nuke&pave to regain your OS functionality. My LR works fine on my iMac Retina, but there's no "cruft", or directory damage, or damaged application states. Also, I do a new catalog every 2 years to keep the size down.

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2.9K Points

4 years ago

I have the same problems and wish I could move to Capture one.

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232 Points

4 years ago

By far, the most money I spend on my laptop is upgrading for LR. Nothing else I do requires so much CPU, memory, or storage. But, after going to internal SSDs (5TB) and splitting the catalog into three, LR is usable again.

If you're willing to change how you use LR, not writing your changes into XMP files speeds things up a lot. Night and day really. I do write the changes, because my system is good enough now with the SSDs. But I used to turn off the auto feature and do the "save metadata to files" as an overnight process. Not perfect, but it worked fine.

I also optimize the catalog every hour.

So you know: I have about 4tb of photos on the internal SSDs and another 2TB on an external LaCie thunderbolt drive, and I do a LOT of face recognition and spend a lot of time in the develop module. My system slows considerably if I have to go to the external drive, but those photos aren't used so much, so it's not a huge concern.

I agree: LR is a monster. But, I have no suggestions on how it could be made tighter or speedier, so I just adjust my hardware and work style, because I need it and so I do what I must.

34 Messages

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602 Points

lightroom is a dream on laptops because the screens are small.  it becomes a dog on bigger screens because they cannot figure out a decent way to render to larger screens.  My macbook pro with 16mb ram 512gb ssd and dedicated video card runs rings around my iMac with 4gig video card, 1tb SSD, 64gb RAM, and the fastest i7 available to iMac

14 Messages

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232 Points

I have three FHD screens to get a wide workspace. The horizontal resolution is effectively 5760 and the vertical is 1080, which gives me sort of a 3K screen. I stretch the LR workspace across all 3 screens: not completely because I want space on the edges to see a slice of other programs I am running alongside LR (PS, InDesign, Excel...). Certainly the mechanics of rendering a 4K 3840x2160 screen are different than my 5760x1080 setup, but still, I don't run just a laptop FHD screen. Possibly I should count my blessings: I've been looking at a 4K screen to replace my 3-screen setup. Maybe I should stay where I am.

13 Messages

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302 Points

4 years ago

Same here. The worst part is, that there is not one STATEMENT from adobe about the obvious speed problems. Nothing, just dead silence. 

Sometimes i think they just dont want to support anymore..


and now some guys will appear and tell everyone how fast it runs on their machines. "just put the cache, catalog and files on different harddrives" , "use ssd's", "dont apply noise correction", "enlarge the cache size", "reinstall your windows", bla bla bla....

i dont know what files they are handling but with 30mpx+ and 2k+ screens its slow as shi**.

IT IS HORRIBLE,

if a switch to capture one would be easy i would be gone....but here i am...still hoping for some kind of statement...

799 Messages

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11.5K Points

I refer the honorable gentleman to the statements I made a few days ago (mostly for Mac users, but Windows isn't immune to these issues).

13 Messages

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302 Points

I carefully read your statement and could not find any helpfull advise for my problems. Maybe you can be more precise and tell me what such tools should do to my os?

edit: btw i am on win10....

799 Messages

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11.5K Points

Sorry, I'm a Mac Tech. Hire a Windows guy to come over for a consult.

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232 Points

ok, so the 30mp images would be a significant difference from my setup. I have 16 and 20mp cameras. But I do run three FHD screens, so my system is working a bit harder than a single FHD.

still, my hard-fast rules are:
-- press F11 only if it is absolutely necessary, and close the window as soon as possible
-- optimize the catalog every hour
-- quit and come back in periodically

and, I keep the performance monitor visible so I can watch what's going on. It helps a lot to see what the CPUs and drives are doing when things slow down. When all 8 CPUs are close to max and all SSDs are close to max, it saves a lot of heartache to simply let the backlog flush out.

34 Messages

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602 Points

my point by raising this issue is this:  We should not need to jump around doing all of these things to utilise the program.  The engineers need to go back to the drawing board and come up with a viable solution.  Instead of doing this they are riding off the fact that they are getting their monthly subscription paid and don't really need to rush to do anything.

Now that i understand Stefan is using Windows.  Stefan, i will tell you this:  I am an MCSE.  I was a windows server engineer for 13 years.  I realised mid last year that no matter what Windows OS or configuration used, Lightroom simply performed terribly.  When running tests my Macbook Pro ran rings around a 12-core xeon chip with 128gb ram and 500gb SSD and 6gb quadro video card.

Adobe should admit that it's software is not, and has never been designed to perform on the Windows based OS.  Hence why i switched to Mac.  But still even though Mac is better than any Windows platform i ever tested (i tested at least 10 different setups over the past year), Mac is still bugged by slow performance even with the best technology.

Adobe need to wake up to the overall dog slowness.  They really do.  Something needs to give!

34 Messages

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602 Points

4 years ago

why haven't we had an official response from Adobe on this?  I realise the truth hurts.. I encourage everyone to keep commenting and "Me-too'ing"

13 Messages

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302 Points

4 years ago

For me its a desperate position. On the one hand my workflow, my style is in LR. So much work went into finding the right color adjustments. On the other hand its almost impossible to work with these perfomance issues.

So what to do now? I dont want to switch somewhere else but i dont know if Adobe is working on a solution, if they even see it as an issue, if the next version of LR will have the same issues and if there even will be a next version....

its so frustrating because these informations would be crucial for planing the future....

13 Messages

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302 Points

4 years ago

if you scroll through this site alone, there are enough threads about this....for example this one -->https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-clone-and-brush-tool-can-not-stress...

there was a good idea of reporting our issue to fstoppers. Maybe this will make adobe give a statement... https://fstoppers.com/contact

cheers

163 Messages

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3.2K Points

4 years ago

Sorry if I offended you Carlos but what I actually said was, "you either fail to grasp the situation or you're being glib". I accept that you're not being glib, therefore I refer you to the first part of the sentence. You fail to grasp the situation. You say you do a new catalog every two years. I make a new one every six months. Your initial post stated that the problem "is" the operating system. Perhaps "might be" would have won you a few more friends. I know you're trying to help. Lo siento. Running Disk Warrior was a good idea. Tech Tool would also be worth a shot, as LR is very hardware dependant. However, the breadth of problems suffered by professional photographers working with LR and PS indicate that there is a lot Adobe need to answer for. And, as usual, they're silent...

163 Messages

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3.2K Points

4 years ago

Stefan, I know exactly what you mean. You rely so heavily on an application that continues to let you down. Adobe have killed my business and they say and do nothing.