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140 Points

Wed, Oct 30, 2019 7:42 PM

How do I get a new version of Adobe Lightroom Classic?

So, I do NOT want to store photos in the cloud. Never mind why, long story you don't need. I do want to continue using Lightroom Classic, and I would very much like to get back the mapping feature that is broken in the version I have now. HOW do I order Lightroom Classic as a desktop program not tied to some ongoing monthly subscription?

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Adobe Administrator

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116.7K Points

a year ago

Lightroom Classic is only available via subscription.

Lightroom Desktop (Part of the Lightroom cloud-based ecosytem) is also only available via subscription. 

Either program is available at https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-lightroom.html 
Scroll down and click the middle option for Classic/Photoshop only  or the right-hand option for both Lightroom desktop products and Photoshop.
 

Adobe Photography Products

Quality Engineering - Customer Advocacy

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How can you dare call this an "eco-system" when is reality it's Adobe Cash Cow. There are many like me, amateur photographers who are passionate about their hobby. For this reason alone we chose Adobe Lightroom in the early days for all the advantages it offered. Most of us can't afford £120/yr (£597/5 years), for an application that has no real advantage for us, but a big cash gain for Adobe.

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Good grief. If it has no real advantage for you, don't use it. If you can't afford it, don't use it. There are less expensive, even free, image editing programs.

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74 Points

I did pay for the standalone version, LR6. I like many others are very happy with it, except for the Map Module. For this reason alone I'm holding off from the next Apple update.

Google made their API scheme too expensive for Adobe to continue to support the Map Module function. If Adobe were truly interested in supporting their customers then Adobe would have offered us a means by which we could input our own individual API's.

Instead Adobe just said 'sorry', but here's new all singing and dancing version that doesn't quite work so well as your old one, but we'll try and fix it the long term. Meanwhile you can pay us £597 over the next five years for the privilege.

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2.7K Points

a year ago

As a frequent user, I would smile and say that the Photographer's Plan - a monthly or yearly subscription - compares well in the long term against buying other software's "new version" every year or so. LightRoom "Classic" is not really a complete solution without Photoshop, but together they are the best there is, so the plan is a great pairing for a competitive price, especially if you get the yearly subscription rate.

Champion

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3.1K Messages

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55.9K Points

a year ago

You are confusing two things: photos in the cloud and subscription. Those are two entirely different things. All Lightroom versions are subscription now, there is no perpetual license version anymore. Lightroom stores photos in the cloud, Lightroom Classic stores photos locally.

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

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140 Points

I'm not entirely confusing things since the software ALSO resides in the cloud for the not Classic version, and will be as with Microsoft's Intuit's or just about any other brandname's suite of products, a totally inferior product for some time. Thus far I haven't met a cloud version of software that can hold a candle to the version I already had on my desktop. 

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140 Points

I am not - the software ALSO resides in the cloud, does it not? I've yet to meet a cloud version of software that can hold a candle to the "older version" I have on my desktop/laptop already. From word processing to spreadsheets to accounting software, and yes photo management too, the desktop versions are still superior, several years after the first subscription only version comes out. No one will switch until they discontinue support for the desktop. I am glad that Adobe is still supporting a desktop version, and find the websites try very hard to dissuade you from buying the desktop. 

The only people who benefit from subscription based licensing versus so-called "perpetual licenses" are the software companies. So please do not give me some song and dance about better customer service. It's revenue stream related, nothing more. Mostly seems to require rewriting the software from beginning to end, and so it's understandable that they revert to functionality of the very first desktop version. I understand what's driving them, and wish them no ill, but I don't have to like paying $120/year in perpetuity for something that I once bought and owned for $125. The same revenue only model also drives the software companies later to create premium versions of the software that cost 250/year, just to get back to where we were 5 years ago on the desktop. From the position of someone who watched the technical revolution talk about making everyone's life easier and better for less, it's disappointing.  This trend is starting to make it seem all about the top level users who can afford to pay top dollar, over and over. 

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Wrong (mostly) the software does not reside on the cloud, be  it Lightroom, Lightroom Classic, Photoshop, Bridge, etc. You install and run them on/from your computer. Now, for Lightroom (that would be the cloud centric one, I cannot share my opinion on it, monitors would block) you do store your photos on the cloud. For Lightroom Classic, your photos can be anywhere, but normally are kept on a hard drive connected to your computer. Also for Lightroom Classic, the catalog MUST be on a hard drive connected to your computer.

And yes, if they ran on the cloud, that would be a complete failure (being nice)

As for not subscribing, that war, much less that battle is lost. Adobe has pretty much eliminated piracy (that was a legitimate problem) they have increased profits, The have simplified delivery, etc. Nope Adobe will not retreat.

Champion

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To add to this: the software is installed locally, and you do not even need to have an internet connection to use it. If you pay monthly, then the software only needs an internet connection once a month, to check your license. If you pay yearly, then you can go for three months without an internet connection.

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

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2.9K Points

a year ago

Hi Nancy! As said above, I think you're referring to two different things, i.e. how you pay for the software (subscription vs perpetual), and where you store your photos (cloud vs local drive).

If you want to continue using LR Classic you and store your photos locally, you can. However, LR (Classic, CC or whatever) is now only available via a subscription licence. If you don't want to pay for the subscription, you can cancel: you'll be restricted to certain features - check online for details, but at a minimum you won't be able to add new photos or edit any photos in LR (but I think you'll be able to view & export existing photos.

If you want to edit photos with software on a perpetual licence, then you have to check out another app (e.g. Adobe Elements 2020 or a competitor's). Hope this helps...

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[Btw, I'd be surprised if any major software company ever abandons the subscription to revert completely to the old perpetual licence model. While users think perpetual is better for their cashflow (and it can be), for software development companies subscription is better. Subscription spreads the inward cashflow into less risky & smaller but more regular amounts instead of into more risky and larger peaks only around new major releases or sales. If a company doesn't have cash, it's at risk of closure, so it's actually better for users as it reduces the risk that the vendor would go out of business. Of course, some users would feel it's not worth it to them, but it is what it is...]

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2.7K Points

a year ago

The concept of perpetual licence is misleading. Eventually the company will produce a new version and they will want more money for it. I have purchased a new version of DxO many times. It doesn't cost quite as much as the yearly Adobe Photography Plan, but it's a repeating cost, not a one-time purchase. And of course DxO doesn't provide as much functionality as LRC & PS does. Adobe is worth supporting.